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    President threatens tariffs on European cars, tells Republicans to stop ‘wasting their time’ o

    Tells Republicans to "stop wasting their time" on immigration and tells OPEC to lower oil prices.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/tr...ion-2018-06-22

    TARIFF THREAT

    Trump made his latest tariff threat against European-made cars on Twitter, following the European Union’s imposition Friday of 25% tariffs on more than $3 billion worth of U.S. goods.

    “Based on the Tariffs and Trade Barriers long placed on the U.S. and [its] great companies and workers by the European Union, if these Tariffs and Barriers are not soon broken down and removed, we will be placing a 20% Tariff on all of their cars coming into the U.S.,” the president tweeted. “Build them here!”

    The tariffs put in place Friday by the EU were in response to Trump’s slapping tariffs on aluminum and steel imports.


    BACK OFF ON IMMIGRATION, TRUMP TELLS GOP

    Trump said Republicans in Congress should stop “wasting their time” on immigration policy until after November’s midterm elections, when he predicted the GOP would pick up more seats.

    It was the second time in two days he has been publicly at odds with Republicans over immigration. On Thursday, he questioned why the party was going ahead with votes amid dim prospects for passing legislation. Late Thursday, House Republican leaders said they were putting off until next week a vote on a bill that offers a pathway to citizenship for young undocumented immigrants known as dreamers. It also would provide $25 billion for Trump’s proposed border wall. At an event with so-called angel families who have lost loved ones to violence carried out by undocumented immigrants, Trump said “we will secure our borders.” Research has shown undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than native-born citizens.

    Trump said on Twitter, “we can pass great legislation after the Red Wave!” Last week, analysts at Goldman Sachs said in a note that they believe odds of Democrats winning the House majority are around 60%.


    TWEET TO OPEC AS CARTEL MEETS

    As the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries met in Vienna, Trump tweeted, “Hope OPEC will increase output substantially. Need to keep prices down!”

    Members reportedly agreed to a nominal increase in production. Both West Texas Intermediate crude CLQ8, +5.71% and Brent crude LCOQ8, +3.39% prices rallied as the cartel agreed to boost output.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 06-22-2018 at 04:53 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Research has shown undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than native-born citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Research has shown undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than native-born citizens.
    Trump didn't say that, it isn't in quotes.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump didn't say that, it isn't in quotes.
    It is a separate piece of propaganda - Two charts demolish the notion that immigrants here illegally commit more crime

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...it-more-crime/

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    It is a separate piece of propaganda
    yep classic misdirection using the wrong numbers.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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    The shooting of Gabrielle Gifford was blamed on putting a crosshair on a political map. I wonder what event we'll see justified with pictures like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    It is a separate piece of propaganda - Two charts demolish the notion that immigrants here illegally commit more crime

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...it-more-crime/
    Wrong. The illegal invaders commit much more crime, use much more welfare, and drain money out of the economy by sending it back to their home country. These invaders must be deported!

    Such crimes are entirely preventable – if our immigration laws were fully enforced and the aliens weren’t in the country, then the crimes never would have happened. Confronted with such crimes committed by illegal aliens, the open-borders groups on the Left always respond the same way. They predictably trot out one of their favorite claims: the crime rate for aliens is less than it is for U.S. citizens.

    However, there are two huge problems with this misleading claim: (1) it is based on flimsy data, and (2) it fails to differentiate between legal and illegal aliens.

    The data problem has been explained in detail by demographic experts at the Center for Immigration Studies. The Left’s claim is based primarily on responses to surveys conducted by the Census Bureau and on analyses of prison populations. But when it comes to determining whether a prisoner is foreign-born or native-born, 53 percent of the time, the Census Bureau makes an educated guess. That’s a lot of guessing.

    The second, and much bigger, problem with their claim is that they fail to differentiate between legal and illegal aliens. It would not be particularly surprising if it turned out that legal aliens residing in the United States commit crimes at a lower rate than U.S. citizens – because they are screened before they can obtain a visa. In other words, the criminals are excluded at the port of entry.

    But illegal aliens are an entirely different matter. They are not screened before they enter, and the fact that they are willing to break our immigration laws suggests that they are more likely to break other laws too. There are many indicators in the crime data suggesting that illegal aliens commit crimes (other than their immigration crimes) at a much higher rate.

    But don’t expect the open borders crowd to acknowledge that. They simply lump all “immigrants” together and declare them to be a low-crime population. U.S. citizens are a much more crime-prone lot, they tell us.

    Of course, it is actually quite difficult to calculate exact crime rates for the illegal alien population, for several reasons. One is that we don’t the exact size of the total illegal alien population in the country. So you can get huge variations in the denominator, depending on which estimate you use.

    Another reason is that there’s a lack of complete data concerning the imprisoned population. When the open-borders CATO Institute tried to estimate the crime rate for illegal aliens, they conceded that they couldn’t determine which alien prisoners in the survey were legally in the country and which ones were illegally present. So they made some laughably imprecise efforts to guess which prisoners were which, using “characteristics” they assumed might correlate will illegal status.

    And finally, there’s the problem that many illegal alien criminals don’t ever make it into the prison system, because ICE takes them off of the prosecution track and puts them on the deportation track. It’s quite common for county prosecutors to drop a criminal prosecution of an illegal alien if ICE offers to remove him from the country. That means that the crime rate among illegal aliens is actually significantly higher than any estimates based on prison populations suggest.

    Consequently, we will probably never be able to determine what the precise crime rate is for illegal aliens. But there is overwhelming evidence that it is much higher than the crime rate for U.S. citizens. Illegal aliens commit a disproportionate share of crimes:

    A grossly disproportionate share of federal prisoners – 22 percent – are aliens. Roughly 2/3 of these aliens were illegally in the country when they committed their crimes. So that’s over 14 percent of federal prisoners. Yet illegal aliens represent only 3-6 percent of the population.

    75 percent of those on the most wanted criminals lists in Los Angeles, Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal aliens.

    More than 53 percent of burglaries investigated in the border region states of California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas are committed by illegal aliens.

    The Texas Department of Public Safety has been keeping careful records of aliens booked into Texas jails since June 1, 2011. As of September 30, 2017, more than 232,000 aliens had been jailed, of which over 155,000 (2/3) were illegally in the country.

    Looking just at the aliens we are deporting, criminality is pervasive. In FY 2015 (the last year for which we have complete statistics), 59 percent of removed aliens had been convicted of criminal offenses (other than their immigration violations). And many more had been arrested or charged with crimes, but not yet convicted.

    ICE knows of nearly 10,000 additional crimes that were committed by illegal aliens who had been in the custody of sanctuary cities and counties, but were released. Every one of those crimes could have been prevented if the sanctuary policy had not been in place.

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    The left's claim is absurd for anybody with an iota of imagination. We are importing better citizens than you!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Tells Republicans to "stop wasting their time" on immigration and tells OPEC to lower oil prices.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/tr...ion-2018-06-22
    That is correct . Too much wasted time on immigration . That time would be better spent finding something dems are willing to cut spending on .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    That is correct . Too much wasted time on immigration . That time would be better spent finding something dems are willing to cut spending on .
    Like Planned Parenthood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    It is a separate piece of propaganda - Two charts demolish the notion that immigrants here illegally commit more crime

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...it-more-crime/
    The other day a self hating "white male" was insisting that I should read 3 studies on how illegal aliens don't increase violent crime from an NPR article. I did a quick search and the data didn't seem honest, yet he kept pointing out that the studies were peer reviewed studies so it had to be true. Anyway, was called heartless, a bully and a nationalist.



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