Trump to start US Space Force

[Marenco]

The Sequel:

Team America in Space...

[heavenlyboy34]

The air force of course should never have been separated from the Army where they could get some real supervision . Everyone knows this

Their primary job is supporting the army but they wanted to concentrate on the low yield strategic bombing so they campaigned to be let loose of the army so it couldn't order them to do their job.

ooooo, I sense an army-air force pissing match ready to break out in here any moment....

[Swordsmyth]

ooooo, I sense an army-air force pissing match ready to break out in here any moment....

If we can get the Navy and Marine Air wings in on it we might have some real fun.

[The Rebel Poet]

[Brian4Liberty]

https://twitter.com/AdamantAnarchy/s...82417838358528

[phill4paul]

Had a progressive revisionist try to tell me that the Apollo program had nothing to do with the Cold War, Gagarin's flight and the failed Bay of Pigs invasion. Lol.

[Madison320]

Fascinating . I expected all along they would take the stolen tax dollars and use them to fund to take things from space that nobody would protest. I have been expecting this since Ike left office . He was the last president to not spend more than revenue in a fiscal year, that will hold true until utter collapse and a real money replaces the old paper currency .

I'm sure the Chinese are going to be thrilled to loan us more money for this.

[Swordsmyth]

[Swordsmyth]

Mike Pence, the US vice president, has announced plans to create a standalone “Space Force” by 2020, becoming the sixth branch of America's military.
Mr Pence said the “time has come" for America to “prepare for the next battlefield” and secure America’s “dominance” among the stars.


Mr Pence said in a speech on Thursday: "Now the time has come to write the next great chapter in the history of our armed forces, to prepare for the next battlefield where America's best and bravest will be called to deter and defeat a new generation of threats to our people, to our nation.”
He warned: "China and Russia have been conducting highly sophisticated on-orbit activities that could enable them to maneuver their satellites into close proximity of ours, posing unprecedented new dangers to our space systems.”
At the same time a plan was submitted to Congress explaining the Trump administration’s proposals for creating Space Force.


There are currently five branches to the US armed forces: The Air Force, Army, Coast Guard, Marine Corps, and Navy. Space Force would become the sixth.
The first step would be creating a US Space Command by the end of the year. The Trump administration would then seek funding and the legal approval to create a standalone military department next year.
Congress has the ultimate sign-off - meaning that the US president alone cannot create Space Force. The proposals are likely to trigger a political battle on Capitol Hill.

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-adm...183322788.html

[Anti Globalist]

Will this space force be able to use light sabers?

[Origanalist]

Will this space force be able to use light sabers?

My guess would be death rays.

[rpfocus]

[Swordsmyth]

[dude58677]

They put the Marine Corps under the Navy to evade the 2 year limit on appropriations for armies.

You can divide your armies by area or by focus, the difference is all but nonexistent.

The founders were against large standing armies and that is one of the reasons the second amendment was put it.

[Swordsmyth]

The founders were against large standing armies and that is one of the reasons the second amendment was put it.

Some of the founders were for standing armies, that is why they authorized a 2-year budget as a compromise, the Marine Corps was then built up under the navy as a way around the limit, it was unnecessary however because the Army budget kept getting approved every two years anyway.

[CCTelander]

My guess would be death rays.

It's Trump. You're thinking WAY too small. Think death STAR.

[Anti Globalist]

My guess would be death rays.

Hopefully they don't turn into a Death Star.

[Origanalist]

https://gab.ai/tv/watch/25634

[dude58677]

Some of the founders were for standing armies, that is why they authorized a 2-year budget as a compromise, the Marine Corps was then built up under the navy as a way around the limit, it was unnecessary however because the Army budget kept getting approved every two years anyway.

That kind of thinking is why there was once a military draft and the second amendment is the limitation to the “power to raise armies”. Why can’t you just admit this is one area where you disagree with Donald Trump on?

[Swordsmyth]

That kind of thinking is why there was once a military draft and the second amendment is the limitation to the “power to raise armies”. Why can’t you just admit this is one area where you disagree with Donald Trump on?

I have no idea what you are talking about, I do disagree with him and I never said otherwise but if he gets an act of Congress to create it it will be Constitutional, it will need to have a budget limited to 2 years at a time as well, I don't know if the Air Force has budgets that exceed 2 years or not but it shouldn't either.

I also think the 2 year limit is pointless and should be eliminated by an amendment.

[dude58677]

I have no idea what you are talking about, I do disagree with him and I never said otherwise but if he gets an act of Congress to create it it will be Constitutional, it will need to have a budget limited to 2 years at a time as well, I don't know if the Air Force has budgets that exceed 2 years or not but it shouldn't either.

I also think the 2 year limit is pointless and should be eliminated by an amendment.

If the populace is well armed which it is under the second amendment then it is NOT necessary and proper to have a large standing army.

[Swordsmyth]

If the populace is well armed which it is under the second amendment then it is NOT necessary and proper to have a large standing army.

I didn't ever say it was, but a small one is required to be the backbone of your forces and to train the militia.

[dude58677]

I didn't ever say it was, but a small one is required to be the backbone of your forces and to train the militia.

Ok, there should be an army just not a large massive army or armies.

[kpitcher]

TWO WORDS
Robert Heinlein
STAR TREK
Babylon Five
DOCTOR WHO

Bad examples for anything dealing with Trump :

Heinlein mocked nationalism
Star Trek would be called socialism
Bab 5 is all about diplomacy and working together. UN in space
Dr Who.. maybe he could go back a few elections and get Ron elected to save us all

[timosman]

[Aratus]

Bad examples for anything dealing with Trump :

Heinlein mocked nationalism
Star Trek would be called socialism
Bab 5 is all about diplomacy and working together. UN in space
Dr Who.. maybe he could go back a few elections and get Ron elected to save us all

It looks to me that MIKE PENCE is on board with all this!!!

[Swordsmyth]

Popularly derided by critics from the Mainstream and Alternative Medias as a delusional dream of a megalomaniac president, Trump’s Space Force is actually an initiative to be reckoned with and poses the highest degree of strategic threat to Russia and China.
Most of the world mocked Trump after he proposed the creation of a US Space Force earlier this year, but this idea isn’t a laughing matter for Russia and China, who stand to have their existing strategic edge over America undercut by Washington’s efforts to neutralize their game-changing hypersonic missile capabilities through a combination of space-based sensors and interceptors.
General John Hyten – the commander of US Strategic Command and therefore the country’s most important point man for nuclear warfare – and General Samuel Greaves – the Missile Defense Agency Director – both spoke at the Space and Missile Defense Symposium on Wednesday about the need to concentrate on improving the US’ military capabilities in space.
Some of the highlights of Hyten’s speech are as follows:

“The most important thing to do in the missile defense business is making sure you can see and characterize the threat. If you can’t see and characterize the threat, I don’t care what kind of shooter you have, there is nothing you can do about it. So the most important thing is, you look at all the threats that are coming together, hypersonics, etc., is that we have to be able to see that threat.
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If you can see it early, you can kill it early. Driving that equation to the left has huge operational advantages because to actually shoot down a missile that somebody launched that comes back down on their head, do you think they are going to shoot another one? I don’t think so. They are not going to shoot another one because it’s just going to come right back down on their head and so they stop shooting. Isn’t that the whole point?
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There is not enough islands in the worlds to build radars on to see all the threats and be able to characterize the threats. You just can’t get there from here, so the only place to go and do that is a place where the U.S. is actually strongest and technology is there to do it and that is into space. We have to go into space.”

Greaves’ speech was more technical but the prime takeaway is that he talked about DARPA’s “Blackjack” program as a pertinent solution to the US’ space sensor needs. This secret project seeks to create a constellation of satellites in low Earth orbit that Space News described as “providing global persistent coverage for military operations” and “replacing existing constellations that could be targeted by enemies with more resilient systems that would be easier to reconstitute if they came under electronic or kinetic attack.”


In other words, the Pentagon wants to apply the theoretical basics of network-centric warfare to space warfare in order to maximize the US military’s physical and operational resilience in this domain.
It’s not just all about defense like Greaves would make it seem, however, since Hyten’s forward-looking vision that the US could one day “actually shoot down a missile that somebody launched that comes back down on their head” insinuates that the “Blackjack” constellation will have offensive capabilities as well.
While scant details have been revealed about the shadowy Space Force, a few important points can be extrapolated upon in order to get a better idea of how this forthcoming branch of the US Armed Forces will operate. The publicly acknowledged “Blackjack” satellites would clearly be used to detect hypersonic missile launches, while the secretive X-37B will probably be tasked with intercepting them.
Not much is known about the X-37B but a lot has been speculated about it, including its possible role as the vanguard vehicle for executing the US’ “Prompt Global Strike” (PGS) strategy that aims to hit any place on the planet within 30–60 minutes of the decision being made.
It’s therefore conceivable that Hyten had this weapon in mind when he spoke about his dream of the US being able to “actually shoot down a missile that somebody launched that comes back down on their head”, seeing as how it could be paired with the “Blackjack” constellation to give it the “eyes” and “ears” that it needs in order to do this impressive feat.
For as solid of a strategy as it may sound, the weakness in Trump’s Space Force is that it’s vulnerable to anti-satellite weapons (ASAT), cyberwarfare (hacking), and electronic warfare.
While the latter two can’t exactly be countered through any physical means, the first countermeasure could be thwarted through the deployment of tiny X-37B-like drones (possibly stored in a X-37B or other kind of “mothership”) to intercept ASATs that are targeting the US’ launch vehicles or sensor systems, resorting to “swarming” techniques to overwhelm or distract the incoming munition(s). Suffice to say, this would further contribute to the physical militarization of space and lay the basis for the creation of an entire “military ecosystem” there.

More at: https://www.globalresearch.ca/trumps...-china/5650143

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Secretary of the Army: Raytheon
Under Secretary of the Army: Lockheed Martin

Secretary of the Navy: Goldman Sachs
Under Secretary of the Navy: PriceWaterhouseCoopers

Secretary of the Air Force: Politician
Under Secretary of the Air Force: SAIC

[r3volution 3.0]

Secretary of the Army: Raytheon
Under Secretary of the Army: Lockheed Martin

Secretary of the Navy: Goldman Sachs
Under Secretary of the Navy: PriceWaterhouseCoopers

Secretary of the Air Force: Politician
Under Secretary of the Air Force: SAIC

Why do you hate America?

...must be one of them liberal a-rabs...