Trump told Shinzo Abe he’d ship 25 million Mexicans to Japan

[Swordsmyth]

Sounds like a supposition.

All I am saying is I would gladly discard one known rotten apple for an apple that might go bad.

But we KNOW the second apple will go bad and we know it will spread the rot through the barrel faster than the first apple, the first apple has a high likelihood of shriveling up and drying out but even if it doesn't the germs rotting it don't spread as fast.

You are trading Pneumonia (which might kill you right away but you have a good chance to overcome) for AIDS. (which will cut your life short in a few decades and is incurable)

[Schifference]

Okay

[eleganz]

I tend to think that a law abiding hard working Mexican would lean conservative/libertarian.

By life philosophy and practice most lawful immigrants that work hard to build a secure life tend to be conservative and against things like illegal immigration, especially if they came from a shthole country.

But politically, most don't care. The left is the loudest, the right is more reasonable and docile, probably because they don't have time for that ish.

[Schifference]

By life philosophy and practice most lawful immigrants that work hard to build a secure life tend to be conservative and against things like illegal immigration, especially if they came from a shthole country.

But politically, most don't care. The left is the loudest, the right is more reasonable and docile, probably because they don't have time for that ish.

Are you saying there is a problem with the delivery of the message?

[eleganz]

Are you saying there is a problem with the delivery of the message?

Some people are working so hard they just don't have the time to care about politics and see it more as a show and hinderance to what they really need to be doing. Asians and other similar minorities want to just make their money, secure their future and not kick up any dirt.

[Schifference]

Some people are working so hard they just don't have the time to care about politics and see it more as a show and hinderance to what they really need to be doing. Asians and other similar minorities want to just make their money, secure their future and not kick up any dirt.

My wife is asian and very interested in politics. My children 50% asian and interested in politics.

[AuH20]

Mexicans re extremely tribal. Can't trust em. Look at the polling. They love big government more than American doofus.

[Schifference]

Mexicans re extremely tribal. Can't trust em. Look at the polling. They love big government more than American doofus.

Sounds like racial profiling and discrimination.

[Swordsmyth]

Sounds like racial profiling and discrimination.

Or facts.
Immigration is a question of groups, so you have to make group judgements.

[AuH20]

Sounds like racial profiling and discrimination.

Look at their love for AMLO. He makes Bernie seem tame.

[Zippyjuan]

Mexicans re extremely tribal. Can't trust em. Look at the polling. They love big government more than American doofus.

Interestingly they support family values, more likely to be church going than whites, were "unsatisfied with the direction of the country" in 2016, and anti- abortion. They are only ten percent of all registered voters are are less likely to actually vote than the rest of the country (31% vs 49% for whites). http://www.pewhispanic.org/2014/10/1...erm-elections/

More than two-thirds of Hispanic eligible voters live in just six states—California, Texas, Florida, New York, Arizona and Illinois.

[dannno]

Maybe the statistics are based on entitlement minded Mexican's instead of honest hard working Mexican's.

[dannno]

Interestingly they support family values, more likely to be church going than whites, were "unsatisfied with the direction of the country" in 2016, and anti- abortion. They are only ten percent of all registered voters are are less likely to actually vote than the rest of the country (31% vs 49% for whites). http://www.pewhispanic.org/2014/10/1...erm-elections/

[Swordsmyth]

Interestingly they support family values, more likely to be church going than whites, were "unsatisfied with the direction of the country" in 2016, and anti- abortion. They are only ten percent of all registered voters are are less likely to actually vote than the rest of the country (31% vs 49% for whites). http://www.pewhispanic.org/2014/10/1...erm-elections/

And yet they still vote Demoncrat at a higher rate than the natives.

[Zippyjuan]

Republicans claim they want smaller government but somehow seem to keep voting to increase spending. (in a 2012 poll, 32% of Hispanic voters described themselves as conservative compared to 34% of the general population). http://www.pewhispanic.org/2012/04/0...src=prc-number

Much has been made about the socially conservative views of Hispanics. This is true on some specific issues (such as abortion), yet results from the survey suggest that Hispanics are no more or less likely than the general public to describe their political views as conservative. Some 32% of Hispanics and 34% of all U.S. adults say their political views are “very conservative” or “conservative.”

Foreign-born Hispanics are more likely than native-born Hispanics to describe their political views as conservative—35% versus 28%. Meanwhile, native-born Hispanics are more likely than immigrant Hispanics to describe their political views as “very liberal” or “liberal”—34% versus 27%.

[AuH20]

They love some NWO giving them that extra hand. Goddamn mexicans! If we don't have a host of other problems, rather than to deal with these worrisome guests.

https://www.ft.com/content/adb6fba0-...b-4acfcfb08c11

Nonetheless, he makes no secret of his admiration for the late Cuban revolutionary Fidel Castro. He named the youngest of his four sons Jesús Ernesto as a tribute to Ernesto “Che” Guevara, is a friend of UK Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn and regularly promises a peaceful revolution to transform Mexico.

[dannno]

Republicans claim they want smaller government but somehow seem to keep voting to increase spending.

I agree that is a huge problem, but right now open borders isn't the solution..

[Swordsmyth]

Republicans claim they want smaller government but somehow seem to keep voting to increase spending. (in a 2012 poll, 32% of Hispanic voters described themselves as conservative compared to 34% of the general population). http://www.pewhispanic.org/2012/04/0...src=prc-number

That is a big enough problem, let's not make it worse by letting in hordes of communists.

[AuH20]

That is a big enough problem, let's not make it worse by letting in hordes of communists.

[Zippyjuan]

That is a big enough problem, let's not make it worse by letting in hordes of communists.

Russians and Chinese are swarming across the borders? (actually the Chinese are- they are now the #1 source of immigration both legal and illegal- India is #2).

Mexican immigration hit net zero a few years ago (net zero meaning as many or more leave as enter the US).

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-a...ations-n353256

China, India Replace Mexico As Top U.S. Immigrant Origin Nations

A new review of 2013 immigration data shows that China replaced Mexico as the top country of origin for immigrants to the United States. The 2013 American Community Survey, conducted by the U.S. Census Bureau, recorded 1,201,000 immigrants. Of those, 125,000 came from Mexico, 129,000 came from India, and 147,000 came from China. The previous year, Mexican immigration (125,000) just topped Chinese immigration (124,000).

According to Eric Jensen, Statistician/Demographer with the Census Bureau's Population Division, this latest flip followed "a decade where immigration from China and India increased while immigration from Mexico decreased." Jensen reports that in 2000, 41.2 percent of all foreign-born immigrants were Hispanic, but by 2009, that number had fallen to 30.1 percent, while the rate of immigration for non-Hispanic Asian, foreign-born grew to 34.7 percent.

Asian Americans comprise the fastest-growing racial group in the U.S. at 2.9 percent, with the total population just short of 20 million. According to experts, immigration is the primary driver of that growth, "accounting for 61 percent of the total Asian population change" between 2012 and 2013. An estimated 74 percent of Asian adults in 2012 were foreign born. The 54-million strong Hispanic population is growing at 2.1 percent, with the birth rate accounting for 78 percent of that growth.

http://www.pewhispanic.org/2015/11/1...ng-to-the-u-s/

More Mexicans Leaving Than Coming to the U.S.

More Mexican immigrants have returned to Mexico from the U.S. than have migrated here since the end of the Great Recession, according to a new Pew Research Center analysis of newly available government data from both countries. The same data sources also show the overall flow of Mexican immigrants between the two countries is at its smallest since the 1990s, mostly due to a drop in the number of Mexican immigrants coming to the U.S.

From 2009 to 2014, 1 million Mexicans and their families (including U.S.-born children) left the U.S. for Mexico, according to data from the 2014 Mexican National Survey of Demographic Dynamics (ENADID). U.S. census data for the same period show an estimated 870,000 Mexican nationals left Mexico to come to the U.S., a smaller number than the flow of families from the U.S. to Mexico.

More at links.

[Swordsmyth]

Mexican O'Bummer.

[Swordsmyth]

Russians and Chinese are swarming across the borders? (actually the Chinese are- they are now the #1 source of immigration both legal and illegal- India is #2).

Mexican immigration hit net zero a few years ago (net zero meaning as many or more leave as enter the US).

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-a...ations-n353256



http://www.pewhispanic.org/2015/11/1...ng-to-the-u-s/



More at links.

They are all communists.

That isn't the subject anyway, we were discussing a proposed swap of Demoncrats for Mexicans.

Nice try at moving the goal posts though.

[eleganz]

My wife is asian and very interested in politics. My children 50% asian and interested in politics.

I'm asian too, but I know my own people and yes they care about politics but won't do much about it, what matters most is working for security.

[Danke]

Russians and Chinese are swarming across the borders? (actually the Chinese are- they are now the #1 source of immigration both legal and illegal- India is #2).

Mexican immigration hit net zero a few years ago (net zero meaning as many or more leave as enter the US).

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-a...ations-n353256



http://www.pewhispanic.org/2015/11/1...ng-to-the-u-s/



More at links.

Leaving temporarily to continue to cross annually? And what about the rest of Latin and South America?

[Zippyjuan]

Leaving temporarily to continue to cross annually? And what about the rest of Latin and South America?

Before things on the border got tighter, immigrants did cross more frequently. They would come, work a few months say for summer harvest or construction seasons, save up money and go home. As things tightened up, instead of going home, they stayed because they could make better money here and might not be able to get back again. Then since they did not to get to see their families as often, they started trying to bring them into the US to be with them. So ironically, making the border tougher to cross led to a higher number of people living in the US illegally. About half of those in the US illegally entered legally and did not sneak across any border.

[Weston White]

illegally entered legally

Que?

[timosman]

Que?

Lack of intent when entering.

[Weston White]

Lack of intent when entering.

Oh like they were all kidnapped and taken to America to work in the fields and manicure people's lawns and trees? Now I gotcha.

[Wooden Indian]

He should have said that he'd send over our LGBTQ Feminists instead.

[TheCount]

Maybe the statistics are based on entitlement minded Mexican's instead of honest hard working Mexican's.

SS believes that political beliefs are genetic.