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    DOJ Inspector General report on handling of Clinton email probe released — live updates

    The long-awaited Department of Justice Inspector General report on the handling of the Clinton email investigation by the Justice Department and FBI has been released.

    The report, more than 500 pages long, focuses on former FBI chief James Comey and the decisions he made during the course of the Clinton investigation. It describes Comey as "insubordinate" while also criticizing then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch for weak leadership. It also criticizes FBI official Peter Strzok for his priorities and communications in the Clinton email probe.

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    This report is ridiculous. Lots of mental gymnastics being used to explain away "intent" and to avoid coming to the natural conclusions.

    500 pages of nonsense published to help explain away what we all know to be true - that serious crimes have been committed by the political elite. But we're to believe that it's all okay because no one intended any harm...

    And to really stick it to us, we've got 9 toothless recommendations made on page 499 all of which are insulting our intelligence to say the least.

    This country is $#@!ed. No one will ever be held to account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fcreature View Post
    This report is ridiculous. Lots of mental gymnastics being used to explain away "intent" and to avoid coming to the natural conclusions.

    500 pages of nonsense published to help explain away what we all know to be true - that serious crimes have been committed by the political elite. But we're to believe that it's all okay because no one intended any harm...

    And to really stick it to us, we've got 9 toothless recommendations made on page 499 all of which are insulting our intelligence to say the least.

    This country is $#@!ed. No one will ever be held to account.

    Only thing I found posted on the release thus far.

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    Trey Gowdy had disenting remarks.

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    Jun 13 2018 22:50:25 (EST)

    POTUS in possession of (and reviewing):
    1. Original IG unredacted report
    2. Modified IG unredacted report [RR version]
    3. Modified IG redacted report [RR version]
    4. IG summary notes re: obstruction(s) to obtain select info (classified)
    [#3 released tomorrow]
    [SEC: FBI/DOJ handling of HRC email investigation]
    [[RR]]
    Who has the sole ability to DECLAS it all?
    Did you witness the stage being set today?
    Nunes/Grassley/Freedom C. push for docs.
    [[RR]] central figure within docs (personally involved).
    KNOWN CONFLICT.
    Immediate impeachment / resignation / termination / recusal IF EVER BROUGHT TO LIGHT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcreature View Post
    This report is ridiculous. Lots of mental gymnastics being used to explain away "intent" and to avoid coming to the natural conclusions.

    500 pages of nonsense published to help explain away what we all know to be true - that serious crimes have been committed by the political elite. But we're to believe that it's all okay because no one intended any harm...

    And to really stick it to us, we've got 9 toothless recommendations made on page 499 all of which are insulting our intelligence to say the least.

    This country is $#@!ed. No one will ever be held to account.
    I haven heard much about the contents of the new report yet, but what you described sounds an awful lot like the 9/11 Commission Report. Precedent has been set.
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Swordsmyth again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Paraphrased summary: "We are the best and brightest. You ain't got nothing on us, but you can bet we won't be sending incriminating text messages to each other any more."
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Paraphrased summary: "We are the best and brightest. You ain't got nothing on us, but you can bet we won't be sending incriminating text messages to each other any more."
    We are the most sanctimonious people on this planet. Just like your HR dept. Would you like to kiss my ass? It might be good for your future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Paraphrased summary: "We are the best and brightest. You ain't got nothing on us, but you can bet we won't be sending incriminating text messages to each other any more."
    He sounded like he was doing an advertisement for himself! Information-wise, his press conference was a waste of time. Acted like it's just another one of those "learning experiences" the Obama administration was always having. I noticed when a reporter asked Wray if he'd ever used an unsecured server for government work, he didn't give an emphatic "No!" but said something like, "Not that I can think of" - so he probably has. No wonder they want to pretend that Clinton didn't break any law.

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    Last edited by timosman; 06-15-2018 at 06:36 AM.

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    As we digest and unpack the DOJ Inspector General's 500-page report on the FBI's conduct during the Hillary Clinton email investigation "matter," damning quotes from the OIG's findings have begun to circulate, leaving many to wonder exactly how Inspector General Michael Horowitz was able to conclude:
    "We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that improper considerations, including political bias, directly affected the specific investigative actions we reviewed"
    We're sorry, that just doesn't comport with reality whatsoever. And it really feels like the OIG report may have had a different conclusion at some point. Just read IG Horowitz's own assessment that "These texts are “Indicative of a biased state of mind but even more seriously, implies a willingness to take official action to impact the Presidential candidate’s electoral prospects."
    More from IG Horowitz in #IGReport: These texts are “Indicative of a biased state of mind but even more seriously, implies a willingness to take official action to impact the Presidential candidate’s electoral prospects. This is antithetical to the core values of the FBI & DOJ."
    — Robby Starbuck (@robbystarbuck) June 14, 2018
    IG Horowitz concludes, ever so conveniently, that while there was bias & irregularities in Comey's FBI, there was no evidence Hillary investigators acted on their bias. In other words, no intent. Sound familiar? Just like Comey argued in exonerating Hillary: no evidence of intent
    — Paul Sperry (@paulsperry_) June 14, 2018
    Of course, today's crown jewel is a previously undisclosed exchange between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page in which Page asks "(Trump’s) not ever going to become president, right? Right?!" to which Strzok replies "No. No he’s not. We’ll stop it."
    “Several FBI employees Who played critical roles in the investigation sent political messages,” IG report says.

    It cites Lisa Page text to Peter Strzok: “(Trump’s) not ever going to become president, right? Right?!”

    Strzok: “No. No he’s not. We’ll stop it.”
    — Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) June 14, 2018
    Nevermind the fact that the FBI Director, who used personal emails for work purposes, tasked Strzok, who used personal emails for work purposes, to investigate Hillary Clinton's use of personal emails for work purposes. Of course, we know it goes far deeper than that...
    As you read through the IG report, just remember everyone, there were zero scandals in the Obama administration
    — Jack Posobiec���� (@JackPosobiec) June 14, 2018
    The Wall Street Journal's Kimberley Strassel also had plenty to say in a Twitter thread:
    1) Don't believe anyone who claims Horowitz didn't find bias. He very carefully says that he found no "documentary" evidence that bias produced "specific investigatory decisions." That's different
    2) It means he didn't catch anyone doing anything so dumb as writing down that they took a specific step to aid a candidate. You know, like: "Let's give out this Combetta immunity deal so nothing comes out that will derail Hillary for President."
    3) But he in fact finds bias everywhere. The examples are shocking and concerning, and he devotes entire sections to them. And he very specifically says in the summary that they "cast a cloud" on the entire "investigation's credibility." That's pretty damning.
    4) Meanwhile this same cast of characters who the IG has now found to have made a hash of the Clinton investigation and who demonstrate such bias, seamlessly moved to the Trump investigation. And we're supposed to think they got that one right?
    5) Also don't believe anyone who says this is just about Comey and his instances of insubordination. (Though they are bad enough.) This is an indictment broadly of an FBI culture that believes itself above the rules it imposes on others.
    6) People failing to adhere to their recusals (Kadzik/McCabe). Lynch hanging with Bill. Staff helping Comey conceal details of presser from DOJ bosses. Use of personal email and laptops. Leaks. Accepting gifts from media. Agent affairs/relationships.
    7)It also contains stunning examples of incompetence. Comey explains that he wasn't aware the Weiner laptop was big deal because he didn't know Weiner was married to Abedin? Then they sit on it a month, either cuz it fell through cracks (wow) or were more obsessed w/Trump
    8) And I can still hear the echo of the howls from when Trump fired Comey. Still waiting to hear the apologies now that this report has backstopped the Rosenstein memo and the obvious grounds for dismissal.
    So, let's review more of the exchanges which had no bearing on the "unbiased" report:
    (h/t Robby Starbuck, Paul Sperry and others)
    OIG discovered texts and instant messages between employees on the investigative team, on FBI devices, expressing hostility toward then candidate Donald Trump and statements of support for then candidate Hillary Clinton.
    This jumps out on the first page of the #IGReport “OIG discovered texts and instant messages between employees on the investigative team, on FBI devices, expressing hostility toward @realDonaldTrump and statements of support for Hillary Clinton.” pic.twitter.com/NtDXrdR0XO
    — Robby Starbuck (@robbystarbuck) June 14, 2018
    Viva le resistance!
    In one shocking exchange between two unnamed FBI employees which we assume to be Strzok and Page, "Attorney 1" asks "Attorney 2" "Is it making you rethink your commitment to the Trump administration?" to which "Attorney 2" replied "Hell no," adding "Viva le resistance."
    Another unidentified FBI Lawyer working on the Mueller Special Counsel Investigation is caught in the #IGReport texting a fellow FBI Employee: "Viva Le Resistance" referring to @realDonaldTrump

    Jawdropping bias and misconduct illustrated and this isn't even the Russia IG Report. pic.twitter.com/eGGYWSJy6o
    — Robby Starbuck (@robbystarbuck) June 14, 2018
    Who is “FBI Attorney 2?” Why was he texting other FBI officials “Viva le resistance” while working for Mueller as the primary FBI lawyer? Did Mueller really recruit out of the #Resist movement at FBI?! #WitchHunt from the beginning!
    — Matt Gaetz (@mattgaetz) June 14, 2018
    Some of Strzok and Page's greatest hits:
    August 16, 2015, Strzok: “[Bernie Sanders is] an idiot like Trump. Figure they cancel each other out.”
    February 12, 2016, Page: “I’m no prude, but I’m really appalled by this. So you don’t have to go looking (in case you hadn’t heard),
    Trump called him the p-word. The man has no dignity or class. [texted the FBI agents having an extramarital affair] He simply cannot be president.
    February 12, 2016, Strzok: “Oh, [Trump’s] abysmal. I keep hoping the charade will end and people will just dump him. The problem, then, is Rubio will likely lose to Cruz. The Republican party is in utter shambles. When was the last competitive ticket they offered?”
    March 3, 2016, Page: “God trump is a loathsome human.
    March 3, 2016, Strzok: “Omg [Trump’s] an idiot.
    March 3, 2016, Page:“He’s awful.”
    March 3, 2016, Strzok: “God Hillary should win 100,000,000-0.”
    March 3, 2016, Page: “Also did you hear [Trump] make a comment about the size of his d*ck earlier? This man cannot be president.”
    March 12, 2016: Page forwarded an article about a “far right” candidate in Texas, stating, “[W]hat the f is wrong with people?” Strzok replied, “That Texas article is depressing as hell. But answers how we could end up with President trump.”
    March 16, 2016, Page: “I cannot believe Donald Trump is likely to be an actual, serious candidate for president.”
    June 11, 2016, Strzok: “They fully deserve to go, and demonstrate the absolute bigoted nonsense of Trump.”
    July 18, 2016, Page: “...Donald Trump is an enormous d*uche.”
    July 19, 2016, Page: “Trump barely spoke, but the first thing out of his mouth was ‘we’re going to win soooo big.’The whole thing is like living in a bad dream.”
    July 21, 2016, Strzok: “Trump is a disaster. I have no idea how destabilizing his Presidency would be.”

    August 26, 2016, Strzok: “Just went to a southern Virginia Walmart. I could SMELL the Trump support....
    September 26, 2016, Page: Page sent an article to Strzok entitled, “Why Donald Trump Should Not Be President,” stating, “Did you read this? It’s scathing. And I’m scared.”
    October 19, 2016, Strzok: “I am riled up. Trump is a $#@!ing idiot, is unable to provide a coherent answer.”
    November 7, 2016, Strzok: Referencing an article entitled “A victory by Mr. Trump remains possible,” Strzok stated, “OMG THIS IS F*CKING TERRIFYING.”
    November 13, 2016, Page: “I bought all the president’s men. Figure I needed to brush up on watergate.”
    FBI Agent Peter Strzok and FBI Lawyer Lisa Page texts in the #IGReport are telling. Page at one point 5 days after the election says “I bought all the presidents men. Figure I need to brush up on Watergate.”

    Now why would they be worried about brushing up on Watergate? pic.twitter.com/1pyFpu7HMb
    — Robby Starbuck (@robbystarbuck) June 14, 2018
    Strzok also refers to having "unfinished business" and a need to "fix it" - while also admitting that "there's no big there, there" presumably regarding the Trump-Russia investigation.
    Bombshell in the #IGReport as FBI Agent Strzok says he has “unfinished business” he needs to “Fix it” (Referring to Trump) and references working on an "investigation leading to impeachment (Russia)” while also admitting “There’s no big there, there” in regards to Russia/Trump. pic.twitter.com/UBK5qdFpOv
    — Robby Starbuck (@robbystarbuck) June 14, 2018
    While there are many more damning revelations in the OIG report, one would think that given the above, there was more than enough evidence to, at minimum, launch a special counsel - especially when you consider the weak sauce used to justify Mueller's special counsel probe.

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...led-oig-report
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    FBI Prioritized Russia Probe Ahead of Clinton Probe, According to Inspector General Report

    OAN Newsroom
    UPDATED 12:41 PM PT — Thurs. June 14, 2018


    The Department of Justice inspector general released a scathing report showing insubordination and anti-Trump bias within the Obama-era FBI.
    The report called former Director James Comey insubordinate, and said FBI agent Peter Strzok prioritized the Russia investigation ahead of the Clinton email investigation.

    A text message from Strzok to Lisa Page was also in the report, which suggested the pair would stop Trump from becoming president.
    It was revealed the FBI showed preferential treatment to Clinton’s team, obtaining information through consent rather than subpoenas. On top of that, some electronic devices were not investigated in what appears to be an attempt to complete the probe before the election.
    The government watchdog report also confirmed the FBI already cleared Clinton before interviewing her.
    The president has been briefed on the report.
    This comes after Attorney General Jeff Sessions suggested the results could prompt more firings in comments made Wednesday.
    http://www.oann.com/ig-report-fbi-ag...ing-president/

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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...umn/704890002/

    Inspector general's report on FBI and Clinton's emails shows secrecy threatens democracy
    James Bovard - June 15, 2018

    The 500-page inspector general's report released Thursday reveals how unjustified secrecy and poor decisions helped ravage the credibility of both Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign and the FBI.

    Yesterday’s Inspector General report on the FBI’s investigation of Hillary Clinton contained plenty of bombshells, including a promise by lead FBI investigator Peter Strzok that “We’ll stop” Donald Trump from becoming president. The report reveals how unjustified secrecy and squirrelly decisions helped ravage the credibility of both Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign and the FBI. But few commentators are recognizing the vast peril to democracy posed by the sweeping prerogatives of federal agencies.
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    The Comey Response . . . wtf?
    I can't (or jus' too old/retarded/drunk/stoned/all the above) to do tweet posts . . . maybe next year

    anyhoo . . .
    James Comey - Ex-FBI DIRECTOR under Obama and later fired by the following 45th USAPresident in the midterm of his term/appointment to the post of chief Enforcement Officer of the United states of America . . .
    a colloquial term for the USA FBI Director -
    . . . now "tweets" about how while the IG Report is "reasonable" he disagrees with some of the findings.

    And then - in arse-kissing soon-to-be-felon terms - compliments the staff on their "hard work"

    How much waffling will we see from this former - and worst in USA history - FBI Director ?

    All to save his sorry arse from prison - LOL
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    Goodlatte begins process to subpoena FBI agent who sent anti-Trump texts: report

    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/39...ti-trump-texts

    06/15/18



    House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) is initiating procedures to subpoena an FBI agent who fiercely criticized President Trump in text messages during the 2016 presidential race.

    Politico reported on Friday that Goodlatte had notified his Democratic counterparts on the committee that he will subpoena Peter Strzok. The notifications begin a required two-day waiting period before he can formally issue the subpoena.

    Strzok exchanged text messages with another FBI official, Lisa Page, during the 2016 race that denigrated Trump and expressed support for Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.

    A report released on Thursday by Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz about the FBI's handling of the investigation into Clinton cited a previously undisclosed text message from Strzok to Page saying that they would "stop" Trump from becoming president.

    But that report also said that political bias at the FBI did not directly influence the conclusion of the Clinton investigation or the Justice Department's decision not to prosecute the former secretary of State.

    The report said that Strzok never used his position to work against Trump's election, but noted that it showed the FBI agent's willingness to do so.

    Trump himself questioned the conclusions of the inspector general's report on Friday, saying the report was "wrong" to conclude that political bias did not affect the FBI's actions during the 2016 presidential race.

    Strzok also worked on the special counsel investigation into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, but was removed from that probe after special counsel Robert Mueller found out about his text messages with Page.

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    The empire is much weaker than expected. They have some real bootlicking incompetents perched in high places.

    If you’ve ever doubted what your “betters” in the degenerate ruling class think of you, dispel your doubts. You now know. And you should be thinking of them in only one way: frog-marched to the public gallows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    The empire is much weaker than expected. They have some real bootlicking incompetents perched in high places.
    The reason for this is over promotion. In order to ensure loyalty they promote people without the necessary skills hoping they eventually will grow into it over time. If it doesn't happen, which is a typical case, at least they have a strong loyalist who will defend the clique with all they got as they know they wouldn't make it on their own.

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    Page 303, which the media has intentionally ignored, discusses Hillary and child porn. The Clinton foundation is used to engage in a child sex trafficking operation out of Haiti, which is why 94% of their donations received go to "other" and only 6% go to charity.
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    Comey dropped things three weeks too soon that summer, and as an overcompensation
    that fall, he opened it up again three weeks too early. For good or ill, as a prominent GOP
    member said, Comey screvved Hillary over. Had she won, she ran a risk of impeachment.
    Comey lost her the election. The two major candidates had degrees of corruption to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    Comey dropped things three weeks too soon that summer, and as an overcompensation
    that fall, he opened it up again three weeks too early. For good or ill, as a prominent GOP
    member said, Comey screvved Hillary over. Had she won, she ran a risk of impeachment.
    Comey lost her the election. The two major candidates had degrees of corruption to them.
    In other words business as usual.

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    If the 2016 election had high odds of elevating the veep on the winning
    ticket due to the victor being venal, stupid or obnoxious, even though I
    think DJT is more guilty than HRC, Kaine or Pence was the actual choice
    by the voters that November, for all practical purposes. The jumped shark.

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