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  1. #151
    Fox News legal analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano says the evidence appears to increasingly show that the Donald Trump presidential campaign did collude with Russia during the height of the 2016 race and that Special Counsel Robert Mueller can prove it.

    More at: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...150653763.html
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  3. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Fox News legal analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano says the evidence appears to increasingly show that the Donald Trump presidential campaign did collude with Russia during the height of the 2016 race and that Special Counsel Robert Mueller can prove it.

    More at: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...150653763.html
    “Yes,” Napolitano agreed. “Conspiracy is an agreement to commit a crime … Whether or not the thing of value arrives. The agreement is what is the crime.”

    So, lets assume the agreement was to remove the sanctions on Russia, is that a crime? Judge Nap has been acting very funny lately.
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  5. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    “Yes,” Napolitano agreed. “Conspiracy is an agreement to commit a crime … Whether or not the thing of value arrives. The agreement is what is the crime.”

    So, lets assume the agreement was to remove the sanctions on Russia, is that a crime? Judge Nap has been acting very funny lately.
    He has gone full TDS Russiaphobe.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  6. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He has gone full TDS Russiaphobe.
    But why? he has previously said he is close friends with Trump and in his past, he has been very rational, very accurate, unemotional, without hyperbole with his assessment of other presidents and hot button political topics. Why change his tune now?

    I think if they ever get Trump for this Russia issue, it would be for lying about the non crime as opposed to committing any real crime of collusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Trust principles; not people.
    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.

  7. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    But why? he has previously said he is close friends with Trump and in his past, he has been very rational, very accurate, unemotional, without hyperbole with his assessment of other presidents and hot button political topics. Why change his tune now?

    I think if they ever get Trump for this Russia issue, it would be for lying about the non crime as opposed to committing any real crime of collusion.
    I don't know if it is one of the videos Youtube took down but when talking about Kavanaugh he said he was surprised what the FBI dug up on him.(Napolitano)
    If he wasn't a sleeper who has been activated because Trump won then he is being blackmailed.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  8. #156
    Andrew Napolitano is getting more confusing or confused by the hour.
    I used to be super careful to say Judge Napolitano for years due to the name sake of
    the hideous character know as Janet Napolitano, now I'm not so sure how
    far apart the two are.

  9. #157
    At one time Napolitano said that he believes the Clinton Foundation is a criminal enterprise,
    but the media is still stuffed with the fantasy of 'Russia Gate' , while Hillary , admittedly guilty
    of espionage , as well as unwittingly being stated by idiot Comey himself (claiming intent wasn't there lol)
    is ignored along with the uranium for cash deal, the foundation coffers,.///// right I know , this
    is just a rhetorical quest/comment.
    We have a very dangerous woman who may become our next president running free while everyone knows
    that her rightful place is Prison, along with Comey, Mueller , Holder, Lynch , and probably Obama.....
    well lets not forget the Bush cabal......grrrrr.......ok thanks, I feel a little bit better now. eor.

  10. #158
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  11. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The Judge is trying to appear to be anti-political in case he gets nominated.

    See if you can find any Constitutional issues that you part ways with him on.

    He is leaps and bounds better than any other Supreme Court Justice we have ever had, probably in the history of the country.
    Was he nominated?
    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

  12. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't know if it is one of the videos Youtube took down but when talking about Kavanaugh he said he was surprised what the FBI dug up on him.(Napolitano)
    If he wasn't a sleeper who has been activated because Trump won then he is being blackmailed.
    What did the Judge say that wasnt based on constitutional law?

    He doesnt GAF about the individual, whether its Chump or Hitlery, his stances are based on the Constitution...
    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.



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  14. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    What did the Judge say that wasnt based on constitutional law?

    He doesnt GAF about the individual, whether its Chump or Hitlery, his stances are based on the Constitution...
    I have listed and discussed many examples here in this thread.

    If you want to discuss one pick a comment and reply to it.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  15. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Was he nominated?
    Ask me again in 6 years.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  16. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Ask me again in 6 years.
    I'll believe it when he gets nominated, he didn't get either SCOTUS seat so far and he didn't get AG when Sessions left.

    Trump wants young Justices to protect liberty for a long time plus Nap is an AnCap and Trump isn't.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  17. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I'll believe it when he gets nominated, he didn't get either SCOTUS seat so far and he didn't get AG when Sessions left.

    Trump wants young Justices to protect liberty for a long time plus Nap is an AnCap and Trump isn't.
    "Protect liberty"???

    WTF are you talking about?

    Dafuq does Trump know about liberty let alone "protecting it", LOL.

    Holy $#@!ing $#@! thats funny.

    Early entry for most insane statement RPFs 2019.
    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

  18. #165
    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    "Protect liberty"???

    WTF are you talking about?

    Dafuq does Trump know about liberty let alone "protecting it", LOL.

    Holy $#@!ing $#@! thats funny.

    Early entry for most insane statement RPFs 2019.
    Gorsuch is the best Justice on the court and while Kavanaugh is not nearly so good he is an improvement over Kennedy who probably only agreed to retire in return for getting to help pick his replacement.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  19. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    While Napolitano begins with saying what he thinks Adam Schiff is thinking, he makes his own statement:


    Napolitano went on to note that if “there were no evidence of conspiracy and no evidence of obstruction, the attorney general would have told us so,” adding that Barr didn’t, so “there is something there” that Democrats and Trump opponents want to see. And they’ll have a “field day” with it.

    Video at link: Fox’s Judge Napolitano: ‘There Is Something There’ on Conspiracy in Mueller Report


    So, in those 700 pages or two million pages, there must be some allegation in there that makes Trump guilty of something which cannot be proven. Therefore, anyone accused is guilty unless they can prove otherwise.

    F*** this guy. Did Fox send him to a re-education camp or something?
    ...
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  20. #167
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Sanctuary Cities and the Rule of Law

    by Judge Andrew Napolitano


    Earlier this week, the Trump Department of Justice told the mayor of Chicago that it would cease funding grants to the Chicago Police Department that had been approved in the Obama administration because Chicago city officials were not cooperating with federal immigration officials.


    The DOJ contended that Chicago officials were contributing to lawlessness by refusing to inform the feds of the whereabouts of undocumented foreign-born people, thereby creating what the feds derisively call a "sanctuary city," and Chicago officials have argued that their police officers and clerical folks are not obligated to work for the feds.


    Who is correct?


    The concept of a sanctuary city does not mean it is a place where federal law is unenforced by the feds. Rather, it is a place where local authorities have elected not to spend their tax dollars helping the feds to enforce federal law. The term "sanctuary city" is not a legal term but a political one. The Trump administration has used the term to characterize the governments of towns and cities that have created safe havens for those who have overstayed their visas by refusing to tell the feds who these folks are and where they can be found.


    Can local authorities refuse to help the feds enforce federal law? In a word, yes. There is no legal obligation on the part of local authorities to help the feds with manpower or resources or data to enforce federal law within the jurisdiction of those local authorities.


    During the Clinton administration, when Congress passed legislation that directed local law enforcement to enforce a federal gun registration scheme, the Supreme Court invalidated the statute. It ruled that the feds cannot commandeer local and state officials and compel them to enforce federal laws; the feds can enforce their own laws.


    The federal compulsion, the court held, violated the Guarantee Clause of the Constitution, which guarantees a representative form of government in every state. If the feds could enter a state and nullify the will of elected state officials not to spend state tax dollars, that would unconstitutionally impair representative government in those states.


    Can the feds withhold federal funds from cities that refuse to cooperate in the enforcement of federal law? Yes and no. In the post-World War II era, Congress began purchasing state compliance with its wishes in areas that the Constitution did not permit it to regulate. Stated differently, since Congress can spend money on any matter it wishes, as long as it is arguably for the general welfare, but it cannot regulate for the general welfare, it has used its power of the purse as a way around the constitutional limitations on its regulatory powers.


    This is legalized bribery of the states.


    In the Reagan administration, Congress offered hundreds of millions of dollars to the states to repave federal highways if the states lowered their maximum speed limits to 55 miles per hour. South Dakota objected. Its government wanted the federal cash for the highway repaving but did not want to lower its speed limits.


    The Supreme Court ruled in favor of the feds. It held that South Dakota is free to reject federal dollars, but if it accepts them, it must accept the strings that accompany them, as long as those strings are clearly spelled out before the cash flows and rationally related to the expenditure of the federal funds. Because repaving highways and the maximum speeds that vehicles would travel on them were rationally related, South Dakota had to choose between its cherished liberal speed limits and federal cash. No surprise, it chose the cash.


    Now back to sanctuary cities. When the Obama administration offered Chicago and other cities cash to purchase new police communication equipment, it attached strings to those offers -- but compliance with federal immigration authorities was not among them. Chicago's complaints about DOJ threats are constitutionally sound because federal strings can be imposed only by Congress and they cannot be imposed retroactively.


    Thus, federal funds awarded in the Obama administration without the string of cooperation with immigration authorities attached may not be interfered with by the Trump administration. If the feds do withhold committed funds that lack a cooperation condition attached, a court will invalidate that withholding.


    Is the refusal to cooperate with the feds a form of nullification? In a word, yes. Federal law is superior to local law in areas that are primarily or exclusively federal, and immigration is unambiguously federal. Yet having pockets throughout the country without local cooperation with the feds fosters what the courts have called "laboratories of democracy."


    Stated differently, if the local government in Manhattan or Chicago or Seattle aggressively protects undocumented immigrants who live there in return for the purchasing power and cultural diversity that immigrants bring, that may relieve social and legal pressure on governments elsewhere and will be a social experiment -- a laboratory of democracy -- worthy of cultural and political scrutiny and perhaps even indifference when it comes to the feds.


    Many Trump supporters see in the president a champion who will rid the country of those they see as unlawfully here, and they also see in liberal big-city mayors politicians pandering to interest groups. But there is a rich history to federalism, and there are two sides to its coin. The rich history is that of state and local resistance to the tyranny of the majority in Washington -- a resistance as old as the country itself. The refusal of Massachusetts authorities to cooperate with the feds in the enforcement of the federal Fugitive Slave Act comes to mind.


    The other side of the coin is unthinkable to my conservative brethren. If Hillary Clinton had been elected president along with a Democratic Congress and it had offered state and local governments federal funds with strings attached requiring cities to make abortions available on demand, they all would be whistling a very different and very federalism-based tune.



    https://townhall.com/columnists/judg...f-law-n2366474


    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Judge swamp strikes again.


    O'Bummer is no longer President and Trump may undo what O'Bummer did.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  24. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Ask me again in 6 years.
    Six or sixty, it ain't happening now. Never was, really, let's be real.
    NeoReactionary. American High Tory.

    The counter-revolution will not be televised.

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