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    I don't understand this...as creepy as it sounds, isn't it better to have kiddie diddlers diddling a robot...a soulless machine than actual children?

    How is this justified being banned, when real life perversions, with real people, are celebrated as "Pride"?


    Congress moves to ban child sex robots favored by pedophiles

    http://www.fresnobee.com/news/politi...213126084.html

    By Tim Johnson

    June 13, 2018 02:32 PM

    Updated 6 hours 28 minutes ago

    Washington —

    The U.S. House approved a ban Wednesday on the importation and trafficking of anatomically correct child sex dolls and robots that “normalize sex between adults and minors.”

    The proposal was approved in the House by a voice vote and now moves to the Senate.

    “These dolls can be programmed to simulate rape. The very thought makes me nauseous,” said House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte, a Virginia Republican.

    Child sex dolls are one niche of a nascent robotic sex industry that has generated debate about the ethics of the use of lifelike machines for sexual activity. It is a subject that turns from squeamish to outright revulsion for many when it touches on child sex dolls and robots.

    “Once an abuser tires of practicing on a doll, it’s a small step to move on to a child. My bill takes necessary steps to stop these sickening dolls from reaching our communities,” said Rep. Dan Donovan, a New York Republican who sponsored the legislation.

    The child sex dolls are imported from China, Hong Kong, and Japan, often labeled as mannequins or models to avoid seizure by authorities. No current U.S. law specifically bans the importation and sale of the sex dolls.

    Sex robots are increasingly lifelike, composed of silicon flesh-like material, some with basic artificial intelligence that allow conversations based on moods.

    The bill is called the CREEPER Act, which stands for Curbing Realistic Exploitative Electronic Pedophilic Robots Act.”

    The proposal says the obscene dolls and robots “are customizable or morphable and can resemble actual children. … The dolls and robots normalize submissiveness and normalize sex between adults and minors.”

    Goodlatte said he was “distraught” that the problem of child sex dolls even exists.

    “I am saddened that there are people in this world who would create realistic child sex dolls and distraught that there are people in this world who would buy them,” Goodlatte said.

    “Customers can order bespoke dolls, providing pictures of specific children they would like the doll to resemble. They can indicate a preferred facial expression such as sadness or fear,” he said.

    A change.org petition in support of the CREEPER Act has received more than 166,700 signatures.

    The rate of child sexual abuse in the United States is difficult to determine because it often goes unreported. The Department of Health and Human Services has found nearly 3 million cases referred to agencies for investigation of child abuse annually, and believe that more than 8 percent involved sexual abuse.

    A smattering of social scientists say the child sex dolls may reduce pedophilia but Goodlatte said there is no scientific literature to support that view.

    “To the contrary, these dolls create a real risk of reinforcing pedophilic behavior and they desensitize the user causing him to engage in sicker and sicker behavior,” Goodlatte said.

    Attendees at CES, the huge annual consumer electronics show in Las Vegas in January, flocked to a show with robot pole dancers.

    Newer adult sex robots, some manufactured in the United States, have detailed facial expressions and allow limited conversations. One prototype sex robot, Roxxxy by True Companion, has programmable personalities, such as “Wild Wendy,” “Mature Martha,” and “Frigid Farrah.”

    In an article in the Journal of Internet Law in December, two researchers described “Frigid Farrah” as the most disconcerting because it has a setting in which the doll rejects all advances and encourages the user to rape her.



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    I'm no big fan of porn either.

    I find it ridiculous and off putting, like having a pro-wrestling match break out at your dinner table.

    That said, the explosive rise in internet porn coincides with rapid and substantial drop in rapes.

    Maybe that's not the cause for the drop, but it clearly did not cause an increase.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I'm no big fan of porn either.

    I find it ridiculous and off putting, like having a pro-wrestling match break out at your dinner table.

    That said, the explosive rise in internet porn coincides with rapid and substantial drop in rapes.

    Maybe that's not the cause for the drop, but it clearly did not cause an increase.

    When I lived in Germany prostitution was legal . I noticed a lack of sex crimes in general . Thirteen dollars would get you whatever you wanted with a consenting adult in those days .
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    Are they cheaper than the larger models? Sounds like discrimination against poor people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Sublime - 1992




    Very popular song. Rape drops off starting in 1993.

    Cultural shift?
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    Whatever your opinion about whether the dolls would encourage or diminish child rape this is certainly a state matter not a federal one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Whatever your opinion about whether the dolls would encourage or diminish child rape this is certainly a state matter not a federal one.
    When you give the federal government the power over the states to "protect our rights", you have to take the good with the bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Whatever your opinion about whether the dolls would encourage or diminish child rape this is certainly a state matter not a federal one.
    I would say it is a personal matter. and none of the states business.
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    How can one tell if a robot is a child?

    Is this another "I know it when I see it" type of law?

    Fun fact: 88% of children rescued from sex traffickers in the US were foster care victims. Government is the primary vector by which child rapists get access their victims.

    Want to do something effective? Clamp down on the CPS kidnap operations that hand countless children to sex traffickers.
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    GOOD!


    I would bet that it is the INTENT that it is MARKETED AS A CHILD that is the show stopper here...no way around that I suppose...

    Please tell me why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).

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    wait.. what? Congress is trying to get in the way of the FBI..CIA..NSA..
    whomever,
    to create brand new lists of people of potential future criminals by using the mailing addresses of the imports?
    I'm confused

    *goes to look for other stuff* since this looks like another smoke and mirrors tactic...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    When you give the federal government the power over the states to "protect our rights", you have to take the good with the bad.
    This isn't protecting anyone's rights, a ban on child rape might be considered a protection of children's rights but this is a ban on an inanimate object, it is a limitation of people's rights whether some think it justifiable or not and it isn't within the enumerated powers of the federal government therefore it is a state issue if it is to be done at all.
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    So just cut the string that holds the rattle to the Fleshlight and poof, it's not a child sex robot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thoughtomator View Post
    How can one tell if a robot is a child? Is this another "I know it when I see it" type of law? Fun fact: 88% of children rescued from sex traffickers in the US were foster care victims. Government is the primary vector by which child rapists get access their victims. Want to do something effective? Clamp down on the CPS kidnap operations that hand countless children to sex traffickers.
    ^^^THIS^^^
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    There are robot children?

    Shouldn't that be the concern? Skynet is almost upon us with robots now having children, and what we're worried about is them getting diddled??
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    They'll just market them as human midget sex robots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I don't understand this...as creepy as it sounds, isn't it better to have kiddie diddlers diddling a robot...a soulless machine than actual children?

    How is this justified being banned, when real life perversions, with real people, are celebrated as "Pride"?
    I agree. I hate the whole concept that we need to ban action A because it might lead to action B which is a real crime. That's the main rationale for drug laws. Using that logic you can ban all sorts of things because they MIGHT lead to a crime. Guns for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    Using that logic you can ban all sorts of things because they MIGHT lead to a crime. Guns for example.
    Anything else you might suggest? I'm open to ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    They'll just market them as human midget sex robots.
    just add a merken and fedgov is powerless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thoughtomator View Post
    How can one tell if a robot is a child?
    Same way you tell if a drawing is a child, I guess.

    Monett Man Sentenced for Obscenity; Possessed Cartoons of Child Porn

    Project Safe Childhood


    SPRINGFIELD, Mo. – Tammy Dickinson, United States Attorney for the Western District of Missouri, announced that a Monett, Mo., man was sentenced in federal court today for possessing cartoons that depicted child pornography.


    https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdmo/pr...e-childhood-24


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    What if its a non-human child robot? (say an space alien) does it still apply?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    What if its a non-human child robot? (say an space alien) does it still apply?
    Apparently yes. (In NZ at least.)

    Man sent to jail for watching 'pixie sex'
    A man has been jailed for watching cartoon videos of elves, pixies and other fantasy creatures having sex.

    Ronald Clark downloaded the Japanese anime cartoons three years ago, setting in train events that would see him in court in Auckland and jailed for three months for possessing objectionable material, and sparking debate as to what harm is caused by digitally created pornography.

    Clark has previous convictions for indecently assaulting a teenage boy and has been through rehabilitation programmes, but the video nasties he was watching in this case were all cartoons and drawings.

    He says the videos came from an established tradition of Japanese manga and hentai (cartoon pornography), a massive, mainstream industry in that country.

    They weren't even depictions of people - Clark's lawyer Roger Bowden described them as "pixies and trolls" that "you knew at a glance weren't human".
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...hing-pixie-sex

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    Congress really only just wants to prohibit all its competition in protection of its international network of satanic worshiping pedophile elites.

    This seems like a special kind of ignorance actually, on par with such logic as the below, concerning (since found to be unconstitutional) anti-miscegenation laws:

    Virginia trial court Judge Leon Bazile, who heard their original case, refused to reconsider his decision. Instead, he defended racial segregation, writing:

    Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, Malay, and red, and placed them on separate continents, and but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend the races to mix.
    And, of course, also: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.8898f33a3dd7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    How is this justified being banned, when real life perversions, with real people, are celebrated as "Pride"?

    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Wow, I had no idea. What if he was watching dogs getting busy in the park?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    Wow, I had no idea. What if he was watching dogs getting busy in the park?
    Are they under 18?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Are they under 18?
    Both of them? this planet...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    Both of them? this planet...
    You have a point, one of the dogs may need to be prosecuted as well. (the male of course)
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