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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by thoughtomator View Post
    Not sure if you're using fiscal year or calendar year there, but I don't see the numbers you are seeing.

    Also keep in mind that Aug/Sept/Oct 2017 there was a massive temporary increase as a result of hurricanes Irma and Harvey, so if that's where you're making the cut for analysis that's the wrong place.
    I calculated the numbers using the Annual summary section. Just minus household participants from 2015 to 2016 and u get 744k households and do the same for 2017 to 2018 u also get 123k. Temporary increase dropping off would actually work in his favor when those people are dropped off the roll.
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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I calculated the numbers using the Annual summary section. Just minus household participants from 2015 to 2016 and u get 744k households and do the same for 2017 to 2018 u also get 123k. Temporary increase dropping off would actually work in his favor when those people are dropped off the roll.
    I believe the time limit is three months now.
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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I calculated the numbers using the Annual summary section. Just minus household participants from 2015 to 2016 and u get 744k households and do the same for 2017 to 2018 u also get 123k. Temporary increase dropping off would actually work in his favor when those people are dropped off the roll.
    Can I kill myself? I can not listen to this.

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Can I kill myself? I can not listen to this.
    You get a knife, put it behind your windpipe and with the sharp edge facing the anterior side, put it forward. You will get such a clean cut that even if the ambulance is 5 mins away from a level 1 trauma hospital, you will not make it alive.

    No need thanking me
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  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I calculated the numbers using the Annual summary section. Just minus household participants from 2015 to 2016 and u get 744k households and do the same for 2017 to 2018 u also get 123k. Temporary increase dropping off would actually work in his favor when those people are dropped off the roll.
    Annual numbers are using fiscal years, which means FY 2017 ends during the hurricane spike, and the FY 2018 data set only covers half a year. The spike data corrupts both the 2017 and 2018 data sets when aggregated in FY cutoffs. Also those are yearly averages in that section, not end of year numbers. Note how over 3 million people got added in October 2017 due to the hurricanes, and a million and a half the month prior.

    The FY 2017 trend before hurricane season was on track to drop almost 4 million people from the rolls.
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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    You get a knife, put it behind your windpipe and with the sharp edge facing the anterior side, put it forward. You will get such a clean cut that even if the ambulance is 5 mins away from a level 1 trauma hospital, you will not make it alive.

    No need thanking me
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  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by thoughtomator View Post
    Annual numbers are using fiscal years, which means FY 2017 ends during the hurricane spike, and the FY 2018 data set only covers half a year. The spike data corrupts both the 2017 and 2018 data sets when aggregated in FY cutoffs. Also those are yearly averages in that section, not end of year numbers. Note how over 3 million people got added in October 2017 due to the hurricanes, and a million and a half the month prior.

    The FY 2017 trend before hurricane season was on track to drop almost 4 million people from the rolls.
    No wonder we have so many feel good stories.

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by thoughtomator View Post
    Fakertarian Trump haters please form a line beyond this post.
    You don't seem to understand that this stuff isn't Trump's doing. He's the PR guy for big changes already decided and required by the drying up of Uncle Sugar's printing press due to the impending inability to export our inflation. Many of the things happening are overall good things that we advocated for but don't be so naive as to credit TRUMP for any of it. Call me whatever you want but I know how this game works. The President is nothing more than a PR guy for the CFR that he's surrounded by. Wake up. If at this point you're STILL crediting one man with "MAGA", you really haven't learned anything useful since you joined up here.
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  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    You don't seem to understand that this stuff isn't Trump's doing. He's the PR guy for big changes already decided and required by the drying up of Uncle Sugar's printing press due to the impending inability to export our inflation. Many of the things happening are overall good things that we advocated for but don't be so naive as to credit TRUMP for any of it. Call me whatever you want but I know how this game works. The President is nothing more than a PR guy for the CFR that he's surrounded by. Wake up. If at this point you're STILL crediting one man with "MAGA", you really haven't learned anything useful since you joined up here.
    What were we supposed to learn?

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    What were we supposed to learn?
    Some degree of reality. Libertarians tend to hold themselves up as being smarter than the 2 party paradigm sheep.
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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    You don't seem to understand that this stuff isn't Trump's doing. He's the PR guy for big changes already decided and required by the drying up of Uncle Sugar's printing press due to the impending inability to export our inflation. Many of the things happening are overall good things that we advocated for but don't be so naive as to credit TRUMP for any of it. Call me whatever you want but I know how this game works. The President is nothing more than a PR guy for the CFR that he's surrounded by. Wake up. If at this point you're STILL crediting one man with "MAGA", you really haven't learned anything useful since you joined up here.
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  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Are you suggesting Trump isn't surrounded by CFR?
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  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    You get a knife, put it behind your windpipe and with the sharp edge facing the anterior side, put it forward. You will get such a clean cut that even if the ambulance is 5 mins away from a level 1 trauma hospital, you will not make it alive.

    No need thanking me

    How many people in Nigeria did you kill this way before your family was finally forced to flee to America?
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  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Are you suggesting Trump isn't surrounded by CFR?
    I'm suggesting that the CFR isn't unified, there are factions fighting and some of them are better and some are worse.
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  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    How many people in Nigeria did you kill this way before your family was finally forced to flee to America?
    That is how we kill goats and if you must know, there are 2 goats kills under my belt. It works like a charm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
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  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I'm suggesting that the CFR isn't unified, there are factions fighting and some of them are better and some are worse.
    Hopefully there are some decent people who can be convinced.

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    That is how we kill goats and if you must know, there are 2 goats kills under my belt. It works like a charm.
    "Goats"
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  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I'm suggesting that the CFR isn't unified, there are factions fighting and some of them are better and some are worse.
    I'm gonna need some kind of source material for that assertion.
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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Hopefully there are some decent people who can be convinced.
    We live in a world controlled by oligarchs, even in a perfect system with a perfect culture that would still be largely true, we must grab hold of those those that are moving our way and add to their momentum, we may be able to push things farther than they intend.

    It is just as wrong to believe that THEY are a united monopoly in perfect control of everything as it is to deny THEY exist.
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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    I'm gonna need some kind of source material for that assertion.
    Just look at Snowden.

  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    I'm gonna need some kind of source material for that assertion.
    It's the way the world has always worked, if you can't see it playing out before your eyes more dramatically than it has for a long time I can't help you.
    If THEY were truly unified we would be much worse off than we are.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Just look at Snowden.
    One guy does not a faction make.
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  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    One guy does not a faction make.
    He wasn't just one guy. If you believe that you should have yourself checked.

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    He wasn't just one guy. If you believe that you should have yourself checked.
    I'm not following what your assertion is. The contents of Snowden's material show competing CFR factions? Or that Snowden was CFR and his leak itself proves competing CFR factions? Your posts need more specifics.
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  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    I'm not following what your assertion is. The contents of Snowden's material show competing CFR factions? Or that Snowden was CFR and his leak itself proves competing CFR factions? Your posts need more specifics.
    Snowden was CFR and his leak itself proves competing CFR factions

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    . Interesting that rural food stamp usage is as high as in the cities.

    I'd say the census bureau definition of rural is very loose and skewed. According to their definition, the following cities would be considered rural:


    East Honolulu
    Harrisburg PA (capital)
    Sheboygan WI
    Pine Bluff AR
    Monroe LA
    E Lansing MI
    Roswell NM
    Mishawaka IN

    And many, many, many more.




    Urbanized Areas (UAs) of 50,000 or more people;
    “Rural” encompasses all population, housing, and territory not included within an urban area.

    https://www.census.gov/geo/reference/urban-rural.html
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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    That is how we kill goats and if you must know, there are 2 goats kills under my belt. It works like a charm.
    Good to know.

  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I believe the time limit is three months now.
    Able Bodied Adult Without Dependents.

    What is the ABAWD time limit?

    ABAWDs can only get SNAP for 3 months in 3 years if they do not meet certain special work requirements. This is called the time limit.

    To be eligible beyond the time limit, an ABAWD must work at least 80 hours per month, participate in qualifying education and training activities at least 80 hours per month, or comply with a workfare program. Workfare means that ABAWDs can do unpaid work through a special State-approved program. For workfare, the amount of time worked depends on the amount of benefits received each month. Another way one to fulfill the ABAWD work requirement is through a SNAP Employment and Training Program.

    The time limit does not apply to people who are unable to work due to physical or mental health reasons, pregnant, care for a child or incapacitated family member, or are exempt from the general work requirements.
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  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    You don't seem to understand that this stuff isn't Trump's doing. He's the PR guy for big changes already decided and required by the drying up of Uncle Sugar's printing press due to the impending inability to export our inflation. Many of the things happening are overall good things that we advocated for but don't be so naive as to credit TRUMP for any of it. Call me whatever you want but I know how this game works. The President is nothing more than a PR guy for the CFR that he's surrounded by. Wake up. If at this point you're STILL crediting one man with "MAGA", you really haven't learned anything useful since you joined up here.
    At a certain point the obstinate refusal to extend him any credit for positive change is just another flavor of TDS.

    Practically everything he is doing is something we had hoped Ron Paul would do.

    Getting out of foreign entanglements: Korea, Syria, and bad trade deals. Taking the steps to get to real free trade. Eliminating subsidies to other countries. Restoring the rule of law. Exposing the corrupt, and on a clear path to prosecuting them. Issuing pardons to those whom the law has been unjust. Actually answering petitions for redress of grievances. Revoking unconstitutional executive orders by his predecessor.

    All the while he has had to fight against widespread sedition just to exercise the powers of his office. And it's only been 18 months.

    I don't understand how you can be as cynical as you are yet have standards so impossibly high no real person could satisfy them.

    The Leviathan wasn't built in a day, and it won't be unbuilt in one. How many times did Ron Paul remind us of that?
    Oligarchy delenda est

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  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by thoughtomator View Post
    At a certain point the obstinate refusal to extend him any credit for positive change is just another flavor of TDS.

    Practically everything he is doing is something we had hoped Ron Paul would do.

    Getting out of foreign entanglements: Korea, Syria, and bad trade deals. Taking the steps to get to real free trade. Eliminating subsidies to other countries. Restoring the rule of law. Exposing the corrupt, and on a clear path to prosecuting them. Issuing pardons to those whom the law has been unjust. Actually answering petitions for redress of grievances. Revoking unconstitutional executive orders by his predecessor.

    All the while he has had to fight against widespread sedition just to exercise the powers of his office. And it's only been 18 months.

    I don't understand how you can be as cynical as you are yet have standards so impossibly high no real person could satisfy them.

    The Leviathan wasn't built in a day, and it won't be unbuilt in one. How many times did Ron Paul remind us of that?
    What can I say? I've learned a lot about how $#@! really works since the original RP days. It's a shame others have not and are still stuck in a false reality.

    Btw, I usually try to qualify my statements by mentioning that yes, "Trump" is doing some things that we advocated for. Seems others are set on ignoring everything else Trump is/was wrapped up in and insist on giving credit for those changes to a mere PR guy, when it's been clear for a while to those paying attention, that those "changes" were already long in the works.

    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Snowden was CFR and his leak itself proves competing CFR factions
    You should probably look up the definition of the word "faction", as used in the context of Swordsmyth's post.
    Last edited by devil21; 06-13-2018 at 12:40 PM.
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