Food Stamp Households Drop Below 20 Million for First Time Since 2010

[timosman]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...me-since-2010/

11 Jun 2018



The number of households on food stamps has dipped below 20 million for the first time in eight years, according to the latest data released by the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA).
The latest data from the USDA reveals that the number of households on food stamps in February 2018 dropped to 19,992,124—the first time it fell below 20 million since September 2010, when 19,979,385 households were enrolled in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP).

The USDA notes that not only is the number of households receiving food stamps at a record low level, but the number of people enrolled in food stamps has also gone down. From January to February of this year alone, overall food stamp enrollment dropped from 40,640,170 to 40,032,131.

The downward trend in enrollment has only continued over President Trump’s first year in office, keeping on pace with the stable decline in SNAP participation since 2013.

Under Trump, 2.2 million fewer people have discontinued their participation in SNAP, mainly due to the Trump administration’s attempts to reform the food stamp program by keeping the program’s cost down at the state and federal levels.

The USDA announced in March that it hired an “integrity officer” to bolster the administration’s efforts to prevent fraud in the country’s SNAP program and announced in February the rollout of its “Harvest Box” program to give food stamp recipients a box of food as part of their monthly benefits package.

Although the Trump administration is making it a priority to require food stamp recipients to work to receive benefits, the Senate version of the 2018 Farm Bill released Friday does not include the work requirements sought out by the Trump administration and the House Agriculture Committee.

The House’s version of the bill includes a provision that would require most adults ages 18 to 59 who enroll in food stamps to work, receive job training, or look for work under a case manager’s supervision.

[thoughtomator]

Fakertarian Trump haters please form a line beyond this post.

[Zippyjuan]

Fakertarian Trump haters please form a line beyond this post.

Noting that this is continuation of a trend which started five years ago.

[juleswin]

Noting that this is continuation of a trend which started five years ago.

Its usually at this point in the discussion where u post a graph illustrating the trend.

[Zippyjuan]

Its usually at this point in the discussion where u post a graph illustrating the trend.

Sorry about that. Interesting that rural food stamp usage is as high as in the cities.

[thoughtomator]

Sorry about that.

Given that the report is not in "percent of households", why don't you try coming up with a relevant graph.

2.2 million off the rolls in 18 months. How many millions came off the rolls from 2012-2016?

[juleswin]

Sorry about that.

It seems like they have been trending down since their height in 2013. My graph shows number of individuals instead of households but still the same info. All started trending down at around 2013.

Does he deserve credit for it? Kinda, it happened under his watch plus he could have reversed whatever the last admin started like he did with the Iran deal. So yea, he gets credit for staying out of the way and allowing the inevitable to happen

[timosman]

Its usually at this point in the discussion where u post a graph illustrating the trend.

We are not in the office. Oooops!

[timosman]

Noting that this is continuation of a trend which started five years ago.

You are also an example of evolution. They started hiring them as government employees. TSA!

[Zippyjuan]

You are also an example of evolution. They started hiring them as government employees. TSA!

Thank you for your informative contribution to the discussion.

[timosman]

Thank you for your informative contribution to the discussion.

Another lie by Zippy. Instead of acknowledgement it is giving me this. Is Zippy broken?

[devil21]

Fakertarian Trump haters please form a line beyond this post.

You don't seem to understand that this stuff isn't Trump's doing. He's the PR guy for big changes already decided and required by the drying up of Uncle Sugar's printing press due to the impending inability to export our inflation. Many of the things happening are overall good things that we advocated for but don't be so naive as to credit TRUMP for any of it. Call me whatever you want but I know how this game works. The President is nothing more than a PR guy for the CFR that he's surrounded by. Wake up. If at this point you're STILL crediting one man with "MAGA", you really haven't learned anything useful since you joined up here.

[timosman]

You don't seem to understand that this stuff isn't Trump's doing. He's the PR guy for big changes already decided and required by the drying up of Uncle Sugar's printing press due to the impending inability to export our inflation. Many of the things happening are overall good things that we advocated for but don't be so naive as to credit TRUMP for any of it. Call me whatever you want but I know how this game works. The President is nothing more than a PR guy for the CFR that he's surrounded by. Wake up. If at this point you're STILL crediting one man with "MAGA", you really haven't learned anything useful since you joined up here.

What were we supposed to learn?

[devil21]

What were we supposed to learn?

Some degree of reality. Libertarians tend to hold themselves up as being smarter than the 2 party paradigm sheep.

[Swordsmyth]

You don't seem to understand that this stuff isn't Trump's doing. He's the PR guy for big changes already decided and required by the drying up of Uncle Sugar's printing press due to the impending inability to export our inflation. Many of the things happening are overall good things that we advocated for but don't be so naive as to credit TRUMP for any of it. Call me whatever you want but I know how this game works. The President is nothing more than a PR guy for the CFR that he's surrounded by. Wake up. If at this point you're STILL crediting one man with "MAGA", you really haven't learned anything useful since you joined up here.

[devil21]

Are you suggesting Trump isn't surrounded by CFR?

[Swordsmyth]

Are you suggesting Trump isn't surrounded by CFR?

I'm suggesting that the CFR isn't unified, there are factions fighting and some of them are better and some are worse.

[thoughtomator]

You don't seem to understand that this stuff isn't Trump's doing. He's the PR guy for big changes already decided and required by the drying up of Uncle Sugar's printing press due to the impending inability to export our inflation. Many of the things happening are overall good things that we advocated for but don't be so naive as to credit TRUMP for any of it. Call me whatever you want but I know how this game works. The President is nothing more than a PR guy for the CFR that he's surrounded by. Wake up. If at this point you're STILL crediting one man with "MAGA", you really haven't learned anything useful since you joined up here.

At a certain point the obstinate refusal to extend him any credit for positive change is just another flavor of TDS.

Practically everything he is doing is something we had hoped Ron Paul would do.

Getting out of foreign entanglements: Korea, Syria, and bad trade deals. Taking the steps to get to real free trade. Eliminating subsidies to other countries. Restoring the rule of law. Exposing the corrupt, and on a clear path to prosecuting them. Issuing pardons to those whom the law has been unjust. Actually answering petitions for redress of grievances. Revoking unconstitutional executive orders by his predecessor.

All the while he has had to fight against widespread sedition just to exercise the powers of his office. And it's only been 18 months.

I don't understand how you can be as cynical as you are yet have standards so impossibly high no real person could satisfy them.

The Leviathan wasn't built in a day, and it won't be unbuilt in one. How many times did Ron Paul remind us of that?

[devil21]

At a certain point the obstinate refusal to extend him any credit for positive change is just another flavor of TDS.

Practically everything he is doing is something we had hoped Ron Paul would do.

Getting out of foreign entanglements: Korea, Syria, and bad trade deals. Taking the steps to get to real free trade. Eliminating subsidies to other countries. Restoring the rule of law. Exposing the corrupt, and on a clear path to prosecuting them. Issuing pardons to those whom the law has been unjust. Actually answering petitions for redress of grievances. Revoking unconstitutional executive orders by his predecessor.

All the while he has had to fight against widespread sedition just to exercise the powers of his office. And it's only been 18 months.

I don't understand how you can be as cynical as you are yet have standards so impossibly high no real person could satisfy them.

The Leviathan wasn't built in a day, and it won't be unbuilt in one. How many times did Ron Paul remind us of that?

What can I say? I've learned a lot about how $#@! really works since the original RP days. It's a shame others have not and are still stuck in a false reality.

Btw, I usually try to qualify my statements by mentioning that yes, "Trump" is doing some things that we advocated for. Seems others are set on ignoring everything else Trump is/was wrapped up in and insist on giving credit for those changes to a mere PR guy, when it's been clear for a while to those paying attention, that those "changes" were already long in the works.

Snowden was CFR and his leak itself proves competing CFR factions

You should probably look up the definition of the word "faction", as used in the context of Swordsmyth's post.

[thoughtomator]

What can I say? I've learned a lot about how $#@! really works since the original RP days. It's a shame others have not and are still stuck in a false reality.

Btw, I usually try to qualify my statements by mentioning that yes, "Trump" is doing some things that we advocated for. Seems others are set on ignoring everything else Trump is/was wrapped up in and insist on giving credit for those changes to a mere PR guy, when it's been clear for a while to those paying attention, that those "changes" were already long in the works.



You should probably look up the definition of the word "faction", as used in the context of Swordsmyth's post.

Problem with that theory is that it doesn't explain how the deceptions became infinitely more skilled for Trump only, which is required for the theory to work.

If they had skills on this level previously, why have they never used them?

[loveshiscountry]

Still 50 percent higher than before the crash while population has grown 8-9 percent.

[Aratus]

Still 50 percent higher than before the crash while population has grown 8-9 percent.

[timosman]

Long time no see. What brings you here dear?

[thoughtomator]

Data being from Feb means another 2.2 mil came off in a single year, significantly better than the trend.

[juleswin]

Data being from Feb means another 2.2 mil came off in a single year, significantly better than the trend.

With trump we had 2.2 m in 18 months, now look at Zippy's chart and trace up the rate from Jan 2015 to Jan 2016 and see that the rate was faster than the 18 months under Trump. My calculation shows 2.8 million households between Jan 2015 to Jan 2016.

Unless the graph is wrong, but if anything, the rate seems to have slowed down a bit with Trump in power which should be expected as the number closes in on pre recession numbers.

What is the variable for the x axis? if it is individuals, then ignore everything I said above

[thoughtomator]

With trump we had 2.2 m in 18 months

12 months not 18.

Data is from Feb 2018.
Trump sworn in Jan 2017, meaning Feb 2017 was his first full month in office.

The Jan 2015-16 interval might be as good, but the trend (the point Zippy is trying to make) is nowhere near that. 5 million in 4 years is just over half the Trump rate.

[thoughtomator]

Here's better data straight from the Ag Dept for anyone who cares: https://fns-prod.azureedge.net/sites...NAPmonthly.pdf

[juleswin]

Here's better data straight from the Ag Dept for anyone who cares: https://fns-prod.azureedge.net/sites...NAPmonthly.pdf

Still 2015 to 2016 showed 744k households drop out of the program and 2017 to 2018 showed 123k households dropping out. No matter which data set u use, the rate is slowing down under Trump. Which is something I would have expected 10 yrs ish after the big recession.

I still give the man credit for the drop happening under his watch.

[thoughtomator]

Still 2015 to 2016 showed 744k households drop out of the program and 2017 to 2018 showed 123k households dropping out. No matter which data set u use, the rate is slowing down under Trump. Which is something I would have expected 10 yrs ish after the big recession.

I still give the man credit for the drop happening under his watch.

Not sure if you're using fiscal year or calendar year there, but I don't see the numbers you are seeing.

Also keep in mind that Aug/Sept/Oct 2017 there was a massive temporary increase as a result of hurricanes Irma and Harvey, so if that's where you're making the cut for analysis that's the wrong place.

[juleswin]

Here's better data straight from the Ag Dept for anyone who cares: https://fns-prod.azureedge.net/sites...NAPmonthly.pdf

Wait a minute, the cost to govt went from $63 b to $26 b from 2017 to 2018. Forget number of household participants, this is the number they should be showcasing. OMG!!!

Just realized the cost per person increased while the number of participants barely decreased. I think the number for 2018 is not for the full year. I had assumed it was reporting Jan 2017 to Jan 2018 as fiscal year 2018. But I am afraid its not.