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    Neighbor’s Defense: Rand Paul Left ‘Unsightly’ Debris in His Own Yard

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...y-yard-debris/

    11 Jun 2018



    A neighbor who tackled Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) “lost his temper” over yard debris on the property line between their homes, a court filing in the federal case says.
    The neighbor, Dr. Rene Boucher, is asking a judge to grant probation in the case. Prosecutors are seeking a 21-month prison sentence.

    A sentencing memorandum filed Friday by Boucher’s attorney said Paul repeatedly placed “unsightly” yard debris near the property line. On the day before the Nov. 3 attack, Boucher burned some debris left by Paul, according to the document obtained by the Daily News of Bowling Green. The next day, Paul placed more debris on the spot where the pile had been burned, it said.

    Boucher, 60, has pleaded guilty to assaulting a member of Congress and is scheduled to be sentenced Friday.

    Boucher’s attorney, Matt Baker, filed the 10-page document in U.S. District Court on Friday. A call to Baker’s office was not returned Monday. The filing argued that putting Boucher in prison would serve no useful purpose.

    “Other than the isolated incident that is in issue, Dr. Boucher has been a pillar of his community, a solid citizen, a family man and a devout Christian,” Baker wrote in his memorandum.

    It said the disagreement over yard debris dates back to September 2017, when Paul piled a 10-foot-wide (3-meter-wide) stack of limbs onto a spot near Boucher’s property. The pile sat until October, when Boucher picked it up and hauled it away in portable dumpsters.

    “Even though this debris was not on Dr. Boucher’s property, he viewed it as unsightly — as it was placed directly in his line of sight from his patio and the back door of his house,” the court record said.

    Two more piles of debris appeared in the same month, and Boucher burned the pile on Nov. 2. Boucher used gasoline and suffered second-degree burns that he needed treatment for, the memorandum said.

    The next day, Paul used his lawnmower to blow leaves onto Boucher’s yard and then made another branch pile in the same spot, it said.

    “As Dr. Boucher has stated throughout, he lost his temper and tackled Rand Paul as Paul was carrying branches from another location on his property and placing them on the property line,” the memorandum said.

    Boucher also denied that the dispute was fueled by political differences with Paul, a Republican.

    “Dr. Boucher has adamantly denied any such political motivations throughout, as even the suggestion of them is completely unfounded and simply not true,” the memorandum said.

    Paul’s office contested the version of events from Baker, calling it “untrue” and alleging it “justifies” the violence carried out against the senator.

    “Before Senator Paul was violently attacked from behind, he had no conversations or discussions with the attacker,” Sergio Gor, Paul’s Deputy Chief of Staff, wrote in a statement to Breitbart News. “There was no ‘longstanding dispute.’ This description is untrue.

    “It is impossible to have a dispute when no words of disagreement were ever spoken –neither immediately nor at any other time before the attack occurred. In the decade prior to the attack, Senator Paul had no contact with the attacker.

    “The attack was a pre-meditated assault that broke six of the Senator’s ribs and was complicated by fluid and blood around the lung and recurrent pneumonia,” Gor continued. “Any description of this attack that implies a ‘yard dispute’ justifies such violence and misses the point.”

    Paul’s neighbors dismissed reports indicating the lawmaker’s character may have prompted the attack.

    Rina Malmquist, the Rivergreen homeowners association president, told Breitbart News that the Paul family positively contributes to the community.

    “I have been friends and neighbors with the Pauls since we moved to Bowling Green in 2001,” said Malmquist. “We have enjoyed being neighbors with the Pauls. Our children are great friends and we have made many happy memories with them.”

    Lidija Loik, another neighbor of the Paul’s, lavished them with praise to Breitbart News.

    “My family is relatively new to Bowling Green Kentucky, having moved from Canada three years ago. The Pauls have offered their kindness and friendship to us. Their support while we settle into a new life was and continues to be a blessing, Loik said.

    “Both Rand and Kelley focus importance on community and friendship and their home is warm, loving and the door open to new friends and old. The Paul family should be highly regarded for the kindness they show and how they continue to embrace all those that cross their path.”



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  3. #2
    I guess he never heard of a fence and he thinks it is okay to trespass on a neighbors property with gasoline and perform arson.

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    Sounds like Rand was poking the bear a little bit.
    1. Don't lie.
    2. Don't cheat.
    3. Don't steal.
    4. Don't kill.
    5. Don't commit adultery.
    6. Don't covet what your neighbor has, especially his wife.
    7. Honor your father and mother.
    8. Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy.
    9. Don’t use your Higher Power's name in vain, or anyone else's.
    10. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.

    "For the love of money is the root of all evil..." -- I Timothy 6:10, KJV

  5. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    Sounds like Rand was poking the bear a little bit.
    Sounds like his neighbor had no respect for or understanding of property rights.

    If this were the standard in SC, there'd be killing fields here.
    Oligarchy delenda est

    “If you love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” - Samuel Adams

  6. #5
    Stupid lawyers are going to try to rationalize crazy, and the law will follow suit. This is whats wrong with the law, the only defense that should give him any lesser degree then assault is insanity, if he is claiming sanity then he should be locked up, he is dangerous to society.

  7. #6
    Rand did it to himself.
    1. Don't lie.
    2. Don't cheat.
    3. Don't steal.
    4. Don't kill.
    5. Don't commit adultery.
    6. Don't covet what your neighbor has, especially his wife.
    7. Honor your father and mother.
    8. Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy.
    9. Don’t use your Higher Power's name in vain, or anyone else's.
    10. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.

    "For the love of money is the root of all evil..." -- I Timothy 6:10, KJV

  8. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    Sounds like Rand was poking the bear a little bit.
    If you believe the scumbag.
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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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  9. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    Rand did it to himself.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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  11. #9
    Really, it doesn't matter what Rand may have done, there is no excuse for physically attacking somebody.

  12. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    Rand did it to himself.
    Now to me this is more sane of a defense, I didn't push him, he slipped and fell.

  13. #11
    The filing argued that putting Boucher in prison would serve no useful purpose.
    I agree with this.

    I'd much prefer for him to serve a week in a stock and pillory.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Now to me this is more sane of a defense, I didn't push him, he slipped and fell.
    "He did it to himself" is a tip of the hat to the forum long-timers who were around when that homeless guy in LA was smashed up badly by several policemen. Somebody in the forum argued the guy "asked for it" so to speak, saying "So-n-so did it to himself" so that phrase became something of a meme in here.

    When I use it, be assured it is dripping with sarcasm.
    1. Don't lie.
    2. Don't cheat.
    3. Don't steal.
    4. Don't kill.
    5. Don't commit adultery.
    6. Don't covet what your neighbor has, especially his wife.
    7. Honor your father and mother.
    8. Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy.
    9. Don’t use your Higher Power's name in vain, or anyone else's.
    10. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.

    "For the love of money is the root of all evil..." -- I Timothy 6:10, KJV

  15. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    "He did it to himself" is a tip of the hat to the forum long-timers who were around when that homeless guy in LA was smashed up badly by several policemen. Somebody in the forum argued the guy "asked for it" so to speak, saying "So-n-so did it to himself" so that phrase became something of a meme in here.

    When I use it, be assured it is dripping with sarcasm.
    Yup. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-beating-death

    Guess it's time for a bump. Lest we forget.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.



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