What will be the outcome of the US-NK talks

[shakey1]

I don't see NK giving up all it's nukes... what do you think will happen?

[Jamesiv1]

I don't see NK giving up all it's nukes... what do you think will happen?

I expect Trump will make it worth their while to either give up the nukes completely, or agree to plenty of inspections.

Access to our economy, build some factories over there, buy raw materials from them.... something along those lines.

[euphemia]

I don't know. I think it will depend on what the other people at the table are willing to offer. KJU has shut down the rhetoric since the Olympics. Prime Minister Abe has been solidly allied with Trump since shortly after the election. China loves Trump. I think they have come to this summit having already agreed on what they are going to offer N Korea. There will be some good takeaways for N Korea to help them get back on their economic feet and be a player in Western Asia. I think N Korea will be asked to relinquish nukes and political prisoners and do some things to restore freedom to the people.

[euphemia]

PS: You haven't seen anything like this since Reagan went to Russia. Margaret Thatcher met with Gorbachev first. Reagan called her and asked what she thought. "I think you out to talk to him."

"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall." You know the rest of the story.

That was almost exactly 30 years ago.

[timosman]

PS: You haven't seen anything like this since Reagan went to Russia. Margaret Thatcher met with Gorbachev first. Reagan called her and asked what she thought. "I think you out to talk to him."

"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall." You know the rest of the story.

That was almost exactly 30 years ago.

And now we are building a wall? Something does not add up unless you want to believe Gorbachev was our agent.

[Danke]

McDonald's in NK.

[Wooden Indian]

My money's on them making some hot dictator on dictator sweaty gay porn.

[nobody's_hero]

About the only thing Kim Jung Un has to fight with would be automated weapons like missiles (including those with nuclear warheads). His troops—though there might be a lot of them—are eaten up with parasites. I'll be amazed if he actually gives up the nukes


But I think North Korea's leaders know that communism failed them. They just haven't told the population yet. I'd say economic changes would be more likely than disarmament.

Whatever happens, you've got two rather narcistic, ego-driven leaders who WILL NOT walk away from the table without looking like they've accomplished something great, and weakness and defeat is not the image they are going for.

I'm also wary of what the deep state has in mind to sabotage the prospect of peace in Asia. I can hear the defense contractor stocks whistling in a freefall to the bottom of the charts. That won't be tolerated.

[timosman]

An agreement to remove the Korean Demilitarized Zone would be a great success even if nothing else was accomplished.

[oyarde]

McDonald's in NK.

What type of meat will be used for the burgers ? puppies ?

[enhanced_deficit]

Possibilities are wide open, but hoping that it won't end like G7 Summit this week and another round of name calling between ours and NK's supreme leader won't start.


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Poll: Do you think Trump will succeed in getting North Korea to give up its Nukes?

• Yes 30.00%
• No 60.00%
• Don't know/other 10.00%

(Initial polling sample 10 people)

[luctor-et-emergo]

My option is not a choice in this poll: "Nothing".

About the only thing Kim Jung Un has to fight with would be automated weapons like missiles (including those with nuclear warheads). His troops—though there might be a lot of them—are eaten up with parasites. I'll be amazed if he actually gives up the nukes

They won't. It's their life insurance.

But I think North Korea's leaders know that communism failed them. They just haven't told the population yet. I'd say economic changes would be more likely than disarmament.

They know. See above. They don't want to die.

Whatever happens, you've got two rather narcistic, ego-driven leaders who WILL NOT walk away from the table without looking like they've accomplished something great, and weakness and defeat is not the image they are going for.

Both of them will walk away, pretending that they accomplished something great.

I'm also wary of what the deep state has in mind to sabotage the prospect of peace in Asia. I can hear the defense contractor stocks whistling in a freefall to the bottom of the charts. That won't be tolerated.

The world is crazy but I suspect very few people actually look forward to a conflict on Chinas' doorstep. Even those who would profit from it.

[Swordsmyth]

Since they don't really have Nukes they will agree to give them up.

[Brian4Liberty]

Doubt that NK will give up nukes. They might put a halt to testing and firing missiles though.

Other possibilities:

- Formal declaration of end of war.
- Removal of some US troops.
- Some type of agreement between NK, SK and Japan.

[Zippyjuan]

Trump criticized the Iran nuclear arms treaty as "worst deal ever" (he says that about every agreement though). Will this one be amazing? Or will it be much ado about nothing and basically a photo op? Whatever the outcome, I expect Trump to let us know how amazing he is.

I don't expect much to actually change.

[oyarde]

I sent Dennis Rodman to singapore for you guys .

[FSP-Rebel]

[FSP-Rebel]

Trump criticized the Iran nuclear arms treaty as "worst deal ever" (he says that about every agreement though). Will this one be amazing? Or will it be much ado about nothing and basically a photo op? Whatever the outcome, I expect Trump to let us know how amazing he is.

I don't expect much to actually change.

Thanks for sharing what CNN and MSNBC are reporting on today.

[Anti Globalist]

There should have been an option for "US Troops in SK will remain."

[TheCount]

There will definitely be some kind of deal so that victory can be declared and the mission accomplished banners can be rolled out. What, exactly, that deal will entail and whether or not it will actually be implemented and enforced will be the more interesting things.

For optimum laughs, it needs to have all of the same flaws of the Iran deal, and then more, but be universally declared as the best deal by all of the same people who declared the Iran deal to have been the worst deal ever of all time.

[nobody's_hero]

The world is crazy but I suspect very few people actually look forward to a conflict on Chinas' doorstep. Even those who would profit from it.

Weapons manufacturers don't really need a war. They just need governments to think there will be a war. The boogeyman must not be allowed to die.

[timosman]

Weapons manufacturers don't really need a war. They just need governments to think there will be a war. The boogeyman must not be allowed to die.

Unfortunately today ...

[Cleaner44]

Trump criticized the Iran nuclear arms treaty as "worst deal ever" (he says that about every agreement though). Will this one be amazing? Or will it be much ado about nothing and basically a photo op? Whatever the outcome, I expect Trump to let us know how amazing he is.

I don't expect much to actually change.

I confidently predict that you will hugely wrong. The lives of humans in NK will be changing for the better and Kim Jung Un will be the one to deliver that improvement to them. They will love that he will have made a deal with Trump that improves the economy and condition for the people.

These are bad days to be a Democrat.

[Swordsmyth]

These are bad days to be a Democrat.

And they will only get worse.

[Swordsmyth]

U.S. President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un signed a "comprehensive" document following a historic summit aimed at the denuclearization of the Korean peninsula.

There were mo immediate details on the contents of the document but Trump said he expected the denuclearization process to start "very, very quickly".

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-upb...001837803.html

[timosman]

And they will only get worse.

We were right about being oppressed!

[Swordsmyth]

Trump said more information would come out “in just a little while” and did not say what the agreement entailed, but some have already managed to extract the key contents from the letter Trump held up.



The letter says that the U.S. and North Korea “will join their efforts to build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula,” and that North Korea "commits to work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula."
The pair also agree to "establish new U.S.-DPRK relations, and the two leaders "have committed to cooperate for the development of new U.S.-DPRK relations and for the promotion of peace, prosperity and security of the Korean Peninsula and of the world."
Notably, the U.S. and N. Korea agree to follow-on negotiations led by Sec. of State Mike Pompeo and a DPRK counterpart.
In other words this is just the first of many summits.
Speaking to reporters, Trump also said the he would “absolutely” invite Kim to the White House to continue their talks, meanwhile Kim called the document “historic” and said it would lead to a new era in the U.S.-North Korea relationship.
“We had a historic meeting and decided to leave the past behind, and we are about to sign a historic document,” he said through a translator. “The world will see a major change.”
Kim also thanked Trump for making “this meeting happen."
To be sure, analysts had expected both Trump and Kim to sell the summit as a success regardless of outcome since both have much at stake. At the signing ceremony, Trump said he was “very proud” of what happened Tuesday and thanked Kim, reiterating that it was an “honor” to meet.

“I think our whole relationship with North Korea and the Korean peninsula is going to be a very much different situation than it has in the past,” Trump said. “We’ve development a very special bond.”
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More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...istoric-summit

[Swordsmyth]

Moments ago Bloomberg released the full text. Here's what it says (highlights ours).

Joint Statement of President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea at the Singapore Summit
President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) held a first, historic summit in Singapore on June 12, 2018.
President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un conducted a comprehensive, in-depth, and sincere exchange of opinions on the issues related to the establishment of new U.S.-DPRK relations and the building of a lasting and robust peace regime on the Korean Peninsula. President Trump committed to provide security guarantees to the DPRK, and Chairman Kim Jong Un reaffirmed his firm and unwavering commitment to complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.
Convinced that the establishment of new U.S.-DPRK relations will contribute to the peace and prosperity of the Korean Peninsula and of the world, and recognizing that mutual confidence building can promote the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un state the following:

1. The United States and the DPRK commit to establish new U.S.-DPRK relations in accordance with the desire of the peoples of the two countries for peace and prosperity.
2. The United States and the DPRK will join their efforts to build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula.
3. Reaffirming the April 27, 2018 Panmunjom Declaration, the DPRK commits to work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.
4. The United States and the DPRK commit to recovering POW/MIA remains, including the immediate repatriation of those already identified.

Having acknowledged that the U.S.-DPRK summit — the first in history — was an epochal event of great significance in overcoming decades of tensions and hostilities between the two countries and for the opening up of a new future, President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un commit to implement the stipulations in this joint statement fully and expeditiously. The United States and the DPRK commit to hold follow-on negotiations, led by the U.S. Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, and a relevant high-level DPRK official, at the earliest possible date, to implement the outcomes of the U.S.-DPRK summit.
President Donald J Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea have committed to cooperate for the development of new U.S.-DPRK relations and for the promotion of peace, prosperity, and security of the Korean Peninsula and of the world.

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...-trump-and-kim

[Danke]

These are bad days to be a Democrat.

That won't stop him from posting here.

[TheCount]

There will definitely be some kind of deal so that victory can be declared and the mission accomplished banners can be rolled out.

A signed deal agreeing to sign another deal sometime in the future? Cue the banners.