View Poll Results: What will be the outcome of the US-NK talks

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  • De-nuke agreement

    11 57.89%
  • De-nuke by military intervention

    0 0%
  • No talks - back to square 1

    0 0%
  • No De-nuke - more sanctions

    1 5.26%
  • No De-nuke - regime change

    0 0%
  • No De-nuke - WWIII

    0 0%
  • Partial nuke agreement

    7 36.84%
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Thread: What will be the outcome of the US-NK talks

  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Politicians are salesmen who are their own #1 client and product.
    Trump has always been more of a politician than that since he had to deal with zoning etc. and made heavy use of eminent domain. (eminent domain is one of the main reasons I didn't trust him when he ran for POTUS)
    Salesmen and politicians are also habitual exaggerators and liars. Neither can be trusted.

    With Trump, everything is the "most amazing" or the "worst ever".
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 06-12-2018 at 02:55 PM.



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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Politicians are salesmen who are their own #1 client and product.
    Trump has always been more of a politician than that since he had to deal with zoning etc. and made heavy use of eminent domain. (eminent domain is one of the main reasons I didn't trust him when he ran for POTUS)
    I think I prefer politicians that tries to sell me on policy rather than their personality. Call me old school but that is what moves my meter

  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Max monetary gain always has a priority over political gain, they can buy political gain, they are going to get every penny they can out of this war before it ends. Even if there was a deal they wouldn't bring the troops home.


    Guess we'll see. I'm pessimistic but not because I think Trump doesn't really want it. I think he'll be sabotaged by the deep state.
    Last edited by nobody's_hero; 06-12-2018 at 02:46 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
    T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men

    "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato

    We Are Running Out of Time - Mini Me

    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm
    I part ways with "libertarianism" when it transitions from ideology grounded in logic into self-defeating autism for the sake of ideological purity.

  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Salesmen and politicians are also habitual exaggerators and liars. With Trump, everything is the "most amazing" or the "worst ever".
    What else is new?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I think I prefer politicians that tries to sell me on policy rather than their personality. Call me old school but that is what moves my meter
    I agree and that is why I didn't vote for him, but he is the best POTUS since Coolidge now that he is in office so depending on who is running aginst him I might vote for him in 2020.

    The best politicians sell on policy and personality.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  8. #66
    I voted partial agree ment because I didn't want to get my hopes up but I'm happy to be proven wrong!

  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I agree and that is why I didn't vote for him, but he is the best POTUS since Coolidge now that he is in office so depending on who is running aginst him I might vote for him in 2020.

    The best politicians sell on policy and personality.
    I don't even know what that means by him being the best president since Coolidge. Regardless, shouldn't we wait until the end of his term to start making any comparisons?
    I don't agree that the best politician sells policy and personality rather I think they use personality to sell policy. That is not what Trump is doing.

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    What else is new?
    The team - Zippy + juleswin

  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    The team - Zippy + juleswin
    Thank you for your informative contribution to the discussion.

  12. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Thank you for your informative contribution to the discussion.
    This is not new and actually stolen from another member.

  13. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is not new and actually stolen from another member.
    It was. From me.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 06-12-2018 at 03:04 PM.

  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is not new and actually stolen from another member.
    Are u slow or what? u asked me earlier on in this thread if I was shadowing zippy and I said imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Who the hell did u think I was imitating?



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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    Trump wants to be the economic president and yes, would much rather end or diffuse conflict and replace it with trade.
    How does that explain ending the Iran deal and re-imposing sanctions on them?

    What about Cuba? We were moving towards legal travel and trade and he walked that back too.

    And the increased sanctions?

    Tariffs?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  17. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    How does that explain ending the Iran deal and re-imposing sanctions on them?

    What about Cuba? We were moving towards legal travel and trade and he walked that back too.

    And the increased sanctions?

    Tariffs?
    Don't worry about all that. We're focused on North Korea right now.
    1. Don't lie.
    2. Don't cheat.
    3. Don't steal.
    4. Don't kill.
    5. Don't commit adultery.
    6. Don't covet what your neighbor has, especially his wife.
    7. Honor your father and mother.
    8. Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy.
    9. Don’t use your Higher Power's name in vain, or anyone else's.
    10. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.

    "For the love of money is the root of all evil..." -- I Timothy 6:10, KJV

  18. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    Don't worry about all that. We're focused on North Korea right now.
    Iran next
    - Q

    Trump: 'Iran Is a Different Country Now Than It Was 3 or 4 Months Ago'

    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  19. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I think I prefer politicians that tries to sell me on policy rather than their personality. Call me old school but that is what moves my meter
    Is that what Obama did?
    #NashvilleStrong

    “I’m a doctor. That’s a baby.”~~~Dr. Manny Sethi

  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    Don't worry about all that. We're focused on North Korea right now.
    He won't even have time to tweet about Muller he will be so busy with Korea. He said so.

  21. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    Don't worry about all that. We're focused on North Korea right now.
    Focused or invested?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  22. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Focused or invested?
    He is already eyeing space for hotels.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/trump...-condos-2018-6

    Trump applauds North Korea's 'great beaches,' says they would be a perfect location for condos and hotels

    In a press conference following his summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un in Singapore, President Donald Trump applauded North Korea's "great beaches" and said they would be a great location for condos and hotels.

    As a former developer, Trump appeared to hint at that real estate could be the key to North Korea's economic development as a country.

    "As an example, they have great beaches," Trump said to reporters. "You see that whenever they're exploding their cannons into the ocean. I said, 'Boy, look at that view. Wouldn't that make a great condo?'"

    Trump added that North Korea could be a great location for hotels, too.

    "You could have the best hotels in the world right there," Trump said. "Think of it from a real estate perspective. You have South Korea, you have China, and they own the land in the middle. How bad is that, right? It's great."

  23. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    He is already eyeing space for hotels.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/trump...-condos-2018-6
    lol

    They will be the BEST hotels lol
    1. Don't lie.
    2. Don't cheat.
    3. Don't steal.
    4. Don't kill.
    5. Don't commit adultery.
    6. Don't covet what your neighbor has, especially his wife.
    7. Honor your father and mother.
    8. Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy.
    9. Don’t use your Higher Power's name in vain, or anyone else's.
    10. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.

    "For the love of money is the root of all evil..." -- I Timothy 6:10, KJV



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  25. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Is that what Obama did?
    Yes, the only problem is that I disagreed with his policies.

  26. #82
    Let's assume unification of the Korean Peninsula is the immediate unspoken long term goal that makes demilitarization and denuclearization possible. This then is the first step towards political unity. It formally ends the Korean War by eliminating its causes...

  27. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    Let's assume unification of the Korean Peninsula is the immediate unspoken long term goal that makes demilitarization and denuclearization possible. This then is the first step towards political unity. It formally ends the Korean War by eliminating its causes...
    It will be much more difficult to unify than Germany was. The differences- politically, socially, and economically- are huge.

  28. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    It will be much more difficult to unify than Germany was. The differences- politically, socially, and economically- are huge.
    Now we have Rammstein.


  29. #85

  30. #86
    Cool.
    Thanks.
    Way to go!

  31. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    Cool.
    Thanks.
    Way to go!

  32. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    See... it can be done!
    N.K might be close to
    wanting Unity. SK is
    not a fan of nuclear war.
    If DJT and Kim get a nod
    for a joint Nobel Peace Prize,
    they need to share it with
    DENNIS RODMAN!!!!!



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  34. #89
    Mr Trump wants first dibs on N.Ks empty beaches,
    he wants to turn the place into Asia's Atlantic City.

  35. #90
    Six months to a year ago, he wanted
    to drop nuclear weapons somewhere.
    Funny how time flies. Anyway, back to
    politics as usual. The Blue Waves hits.

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