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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post

    Israel to pay students to defend it online

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/08/14/israel-students-social-media/2651715/


    Yeah, I remember that one. They were totally up front about it.


    JERUSALEM (AP) — Israel is looking to hire university students to post pro-Israel messages on social media networks — without needing to identify themselves as government-linked, officials said Wednesday.

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    He said the office was looking to budget $778,000 for the project, and that the national Israeli student association would select participants from a pool of applicants.



    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post

    But it can't happen HERE, right?
    I am serious when I say it's baffling to me how people presented with overwhelming evidence either can't see the trolls here or just deny it. Either some people have no common sense or this is about the worst case of forum cognitive dissonance I've ever seen.
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Don't flatter yourself.
    But I'm wondering if this is having the opposite effect. Somebody out there thinks were that important. Hey, that should give us a big confidence boost!


    "Fans don't boo nobodies."

    --Reggie Jackson
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Yeah, I remember that one. They were totally up front about it.









    I am serious when I say it's baffling to me how people presented with overwhelming evidence either can't see the trolls here or just deny it. Either some people have no common sense or this is about the worst case of forum cognitive dissonance I've ever seen.
    Maybe they want to see how far you will go fighting them. What if you say something you shouldn't?
    Truth is a social construct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    But I'm wondering if this is having the opposite effect. Somebody out there thinks were that important. Hey, that should give us a big confidence boost!


    "Fans don't boo nobodies."

    --Reggie Jackson
    Ron Paul is deep state?
    Truth is a social construct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    I am serious when I say it's baffling to me how people presented with overwhelming evidence either can't see the trolls here or just deny it. Either some people have no common sense or this is about the worst case of forum cognitive dissonance I've ever seen.
    Pierz is quite obviously part of team Troll.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pierz is quite obviously part of team Troll.
    I think the number of non-trolls is less than 10.
    Truth is a social construct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    I think the number of non-trolls is less than 10.
    If you are correct then we are doing a great job of wasting their resources, I think the number is higher though, not EVERYONE who disagrees with me is a troll and there are more good members who don't post often than you might think.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    If you are correct then we are doing a great job of wasting their resources, I think the number is higher though, not EVERYONE who disagrees with me is a troll and there are more good members who don't post often than you might think.
    Why the mods are not doing anything about trolls?
    Truth is a social construct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Why the mods are not doing anything about trolls?
    I would need to be a mind reader to answer that.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Ron Paul is deep state?
    No, but he became a threat in late 2007. This November 2007 article reads Ron Paul Sets Online Fundraising Record with $4.2 Million in One Day. If you peruse articles at that time, you can see some people were definitely scared of him.

    That fear carried over into 2012. This guy writes a book Ron Paul, America's Most Dangerous Nazi. Another article reads Ron Paul excluded from Republican Jewish Coalition forum. A Hareetz article said Ron Paul is not anti-Semitic but is anti-Israel, Former Aide Says.

    There's a whole bunch of stuff like this out there. I think we sometimes get insulated in RPF. Some of us don't see these criticisms, and we're totally incredulous when we do see them.

    I think it really explains the incredulity some have here regarding trolls. I couldn't believe that someone would actually pay people to try to thwart the site, but--over time--the evidence became overwhelmingly definitive.
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
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    You don't have to look at CFR to find this stuff. I happens right here on this site. There was a Florida member here back in 2007 who pretended he wanted to do Paullapalooza meet-ups.. He just made that up. He then started making these rabid pro-Israel posts, ranting at people here for being "anti-semites." He later admitted to me (publicly) he had a sock account doing the same thing. I'm guessing it was a program similar to the aforementioned Israel to pay students to defend it online.

    If some people weren't so wrapped up here in their narcissistic opinions and actually read other peoples' posts, then it would be clear as a bell. Geez, it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure out their dumb game. Duh.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




    Disrupt, Deny, Deflate. Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eptive-members

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I guess "favorable" is a matter of opinion. I saw the pieces as more neutral. One is a simple bio of Paul and the other is an interview.

    By the way, both pieces are about Ron. Neither is about Rand.



    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    The CFR does have a lot of influential people as members but they also don't have a single view.
    I'd say that's also a matter of opinion. The CFR has a program called International Institutions and Global Governance Program. Their opening line is "Today’s most pressing challenges—ranging from combatting climate change to advancing global health—are transnational."

    I'd say "climate change" is debatable as one of "Today's most pressing challenges." "Global health" is also an interesting term. I suppose we could drill down to look at the details; however, I think it's more telling (on a broader level) they they actually have a program called "global goverance" and not something like individual sovereignty.
    Last edited by NorthCarolinaLiberty; 06-13-2018 at 06:03 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




    Disrupt, Deny, Deflate. Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eptive-members

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