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    Yet Another Lemonade stand story, Denver

    http://denver.cbslocal.com/2018/05/2...and-shut-down/


    Child’s Lemonade Stand Shut Down For Lack Of Permit



    DENVER (CBS4) – Denver police shut down a lemonade stand put on by a group of brothers over a permitting issue.

    When Jennifer Knowles helped her sons set up their first lemonade stand over the weekend, she thought it would be a lesson in entrepreneurship and charity.
    “The boys went online and they decided they wanted to help a child in another country less fortunate, and we found a place in Colorado Springs called Charity International, and they picked a five-year-old boy in Indonesia,” she said.

    But they got an unexpected lesson too.
    “Someone complained about our lemonade stand,” said Knowles.
    Turns out, you need a permit to operate a lemonade stand in Denver similar to hot dog, peanut and sunflower seed vendors outside Coors Field.
    The city says it’s about health and safety, but in the Knowles’ case, competition may also be in play.

    The Knowles set up right next to the Denver Arts Festival, where there was a lemonade vendor.
    “We had never thought that the other lemonade vendor could feel threatened by our little kid lemonade stand,” she said. “I can understand why someone would get upset.”
    The family sold lemonade 2 for $1 while, she says, the vendor sold it for $7 a glass.

    Still, she plans to make lemonade out of lemons by asking the city to waive permits in the future for kids’ lemonade stands when another stand isn’t nearby.
    “In hindsight we would have never set up where we did, when we did, and we would have just done it another time. Lesson learned,” she said.
    The lemonade stand wasn’t totally a bust. Knowles says they raked in about $200 for charity before police shut them down.
    A permit would definitely have cut into profits. It runs $125 for a one day operation.
    Shaun Boyd is CBS4’s political specialist. She’s a veteran reporter with more than 25 years of experience. Follow her on Twitter @cbs4shaun.
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    I know people here know better about terminology, but it's not a "permit." Never called it a "permit." The government does not permit anything. They government only restricts.

    I call it "state papers." Papers, please!


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    SMDH. Cannot teach children to learn responsibility.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    SMDH. Cannot teach children to learn responsibility.
    Applying for needed permits is a big part of being a responsible adult. Apparently this mother skipped that lesson.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    “Someone complained about our lemonade stand,” said Knowles.
    I bet this person's kids understand the value of applying for permits.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Applying for needed permits is a big part of being a responsible adult. Apparently this mother skipped that lesson.
    The lesson this child learned is that government is not for a free market. Ron Paul here he comes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    The lesson this child learned is that government is not for a free market. Ron Paul here he comes!
    Sure, we don't have a completely free market, but there has to be a balance between having rules, and having unbridled anarchy where just anyone can open a lemonade stand.

    I think we've found a good balance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    http://denver.cbslocal.com/2018/05/2...and-shut-down/


    Child’s Lemonade Stand Shut Down For Lack Of Permit



    DENVER (CBS4) – Denver police shut down a lemonade stand put on by a group of brothers over a permitting issue.

    When Jennifer Knowles helped her sons set up their first lemonade stand over the weekend, she thought it would be a lesson in entrepreneurship and charity.
    “The boys went online and they decided they wanted to help a child in another country less fortunate, and we found a place in Colorado Springs called Charity International, and they picked a five-year-old boy in Indonesia,” she said.

    But they got an unexpected lesson too.
    “Someone complained about our lemonade stand,” said Knowles.
    Turns out, you need a permit to operate a lemonade stand in Denver similar to hot dog, peanut and sunflower seed vendors outside Coors Field.
    The city says it’s about health and safety, but in the Knowles’ case, competition may also be in play.

    The Knowles set up right next to the Denver Arts Festival, where there was a lemonade vendor.
    “We had never thought that the other lemonade vendor could feel threatened by our little kid lemonade stand,” she said. “I can understand why someone would get upset.”
    The family sold lemonade 2 for $1 while, she says, the vendor sold it for $7 a glass.

    Still, she plans to make lemonade out of lemons by asking the city to waive permits in the future for kids’ lemonade stands when another stand isn’t nearby.
    “In hindsight we would have never set up where we did, when we did, and we would have just done it another time. Lesson learned,” she said.
    The lemonade stand wasn’t totally a bust. Knowles says they raked in about $200 for charity before police shut them down.
    A permit would definitely have cut into profits. It runs $125 for a one day operation.
    Shaun Boyd is CBS4’s political specialist. She’s a veteran reporter with more than 25 years of experience. Follow her on Twitter @cbs4shaun.
    No surprise , colorado has been the new california for sometime , commies everywhere . Wyoming should activate the militia to keep them at bay .
    Last edited by oyarde; 05-30-2018 at 11:12 PM.
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    When Jennifer Knowles helped her sons set up their first lemonade stand over the weekend, she thought it would be a lesson in entrepreneurship and charity.

    Lesson learned.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

  12. #10
    Very cool.

    Kraft Heinz paying kids slapped with lemonade stand fines

    Kids getting busted and fined by cops for running neighborhood lemonade stands without permits could come to an end this summer—thanks to food giant Kraft Heinz.

    The brand’s Country Time Lemonade unit announced Thursday that it will personally defend and pay for any fines that children get for trying to sell the summertime drink.

    “We recently came across a story of a kid getting her lemonade stand shut down for legal reasons, which had to be an urban myth. After looking into it and seeing even more instances, we realized these weren’t myths, they were real stories,” Adam Butler, general manager for beverage and nuts for Kraft Heinz, told Fox Business.

    Just last week, three brothers, ages 2 to 6, from Stapleton, Colorado, got their lemonade stand shut down by Denver cops after several vendors at a nearby arts festival called the police to complain the kids were undercutting their prices.

    The brothers, who didn’t have a temporary vending permit, were told that they were violating city policy and needed to shut down their business. The boys were trying to raise money for a nonprofit child-advocacy ministry called Compassion International that supports children in poverty.

    “I was very surprised and shocked that all this was necessary for a child’s lemonade stand,” the boy’s mother told The Denver Post. “When I think back to my childhood, I had lemonade stands all the time. It never occurred to me that it wouldn’t be OK for my kids to do the same.”

    But according to Butler, this summer will be different.

    The fifth-largest food and beverage company in the world with a market cap of $71 billion said it has created a “Legal-Ade” unit that is on hand to help kids and their parents fight any legal woes or fines associated with their lemonade stands.

    “Any child fined for running a lemonade stand without a permit can have his or her parent apply for reimbursement. To apply, simply upload the image of your child's permit or fine along with a description of what your lemonade stand means to your child, in his or her own words,” the company said in a statement.

    Each submission will then be reviewed by Country Time Lemonade’s team and if it complies with the terms, the company will cover the permit fee or fine, up to $300. Additionally, it will donate up to $500,000 to help kids with their entrepreneurial pursuits next year and beyond.

    “Go ahead, kids. Run your lemonade stands. Country Time Legal-Ade is on your side and will protect you. When life hands you outdated laws, make lemonade, and get Legal-Ade,” the company said.
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    I am guessing that a permitted lemonade entrepreneur must mix his lemonade in a certified kitchen or can only sell prepackaged beverages.

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    Country Time - 100% Lemon free lemonade

    If the kids are pushing Country Time, they're not selling lemonade. No lemons are present at the scene of the alleged crime.

    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Very cool.

    Run your lemonade stands. Country Time Legal-Ade is on your side and will protect you
    Worst Food of the Week: Country Time Lemonade


    THE IDEA OF LEMONADE IN THE SUMMER CALLS TO MIND kids with lemonade stands, sitting on the porch with friends, and backyard barbeques. Ice cold lemonade on a hot day is delicious and a real treat.

    Country Time lemonade takes that idyllic imagery, grinds it into a powder, and captures it in a container labeled “Less Sugar than Soda” making it accessible for everyday consumption.

    Is Country Time really lemonade?


    Homemade lemonade is made with: Sugar, lemons, and water.

    Country Time is made with:
    Sugar, Fructose, Citric Acid (Provides Tartness), Contains Less than 2% of Natural Flavor, Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Maltodextrin, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate, Sodium Citrate (Controls Acidity), Magnesium Oxide (Prevents Caking), Calcium Fumarate, Soy Lecithin, Artificial Color, Yellow 5 Lake, Tocopherol (Preserves Freshness).

    But where’s the lemon juice?


    INSTEAD OF LEMONS, COUNTRY TIME has citric acid is making it tart, manufactured flavorings are making it “lemony”, and dye is making it yellow. It’s cheap ($3.16 for 32 servings) and quick to make, but maybe lemonade doesn’t need to be cheap and fast because it’s definitely healthier to not eat all of these chemicals.

    HOMEMADE LEMONADE ISN’T EXPENSIVE (just the cost of 6 or so lemons and a cup of sugar), isn’t difficult to make, and is yummy. Your kids can help make it (instant “family bonding” time) and if you freeze it, you get delicious lemon water ice. Making a special treat from real ingredients, with or without help from the kids, is great for improving our food culture.

    The bottom line:
    Country Time lemonade isn’t really lemonade, but a combination of processed chemical additives which doesn’t contain lemon juice. Stick with the homemade, real food version. Maybe with all that lemon squeezing you won’t want to make it every day, but who needs lemonade every day, anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post


    “Very cool”?


    I’d like to hear @TheTexan opinion on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    “Very cool”?


    I’d like to hear @TheTexan opinion on this.
    Heinz is encouraging people to break the law, which in this case is almost certainly criminal incitement.

    I will be reaching out to my contacts in the FBI to make them aware.

    Thanks for the heads up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Heinz is encouraging people to break the law, which in this case is almost certainly criminal incitement.

    I will be reaching out to my contacts in the FBI to make them aware.

    Thanks for the heads up.
    If there were Russians involved it would definitely be collusion, that is definitely a crime............Isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    If there were Russians involved it would definitely be collusion, that is definitely a crime............Isn't it?
    Good point, Heinz does indeed do a lot of business with Russians. It's very possible that the Russians are trying to undermine our rule of law, starting with these lemonade stand permits
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    “Someone complained about our lemonade stand,” said Knowles.
    Fk having neighbors.


    I suppose we will reap what we sow by crushing the entrepreneurial spirit in young people. No doubt it will be more beneficial for these kids in their later life to learn how to apply for welfare.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    I am guessing that a permitted lemonade entrepreneur must mix his lemonade in a certified kitchen or can only sell prepackaged beverages.
    And have a hand washing sink, disposable gloves, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    And have a hand washing sink, disposable gloves, etc.
    Dont forget Affirmative Action. Not hiring people of other color and paying them a "Livable Wage" is also racist. Oh and not putting their pennies into the Ponzi Scheme of Social Security, and Licenses and Permits from City, County, State, and Federal. Oh, and they have to register with Unemployment, Health Department, and various other Alphabet Soup agencies.

    Their real crime? Not allowing parasites to take more than a pittance of what they earned by dictating every action which only sets them up for total failure.

    Really tho, its not just about getting shut down. How many Laws that prohibit competition and Free Market did they break? And this is a Free Country?

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