Social credit system must bankrupt discredited people

[timosman]

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1103262.shtml

By Liu Xuanzun Source:Global Times Published: 2018/5/20


A senior official argued that without due punishment, defaulters would only feel encouraged after it was reported China's social credit system had blocked more than 11.14 million flights and 4.25 million high-speed train trips by the end of April.

An improved social credit system was needed so that "discredited people become bankrupt," Hou Yunchun, former deputy director of the development research center of the State Council, was quoted as saying by Sina Finance at an annual credit development forum in Beijing on Saturday.

"If we don't increase the cost of being discredited, we are encouraging discredited people to keep at it," Hou reportedly said.

"That destroys the whole standard."

The names of 33,000 companies which violated laws and regulations have also been published, said Meng Wei, spokeswoman for the National Development and Reform Commission, news website chinanews.com reported on Wednesday.

Hou's phrase that the "discredited people become bankrupt" makes the point, but is an oversimplification, Zhi Zhenfeng, a legal expert at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences in Beijing, told the Global Times.

"How the person is restricted in terms of public services or business opportunities should be in accordance with how and to what extent he or she lost his credibility."

The punishment should match the deed, Zhi said.

China has regulations but a national law is needed to gauge that correct punishment.

"Discredited people deserve legal consequences," Zhi said. "This is definitely a step in the right direction to building a society with credibility."
Newspaper headline: Social credit system must bankrupt discredited people

[jkr]

They need sum freedom bombs...

[Swordsmyth]

The next step is to make discredited people starve.
The step after that is to execute them.

[Swordsmyth]

[Danke]

The next step is to make discredited people starve.
The step after that is to execute them.

@oyarde would have a very low score.

[Swordsmyth]

Oyarde would have a very low score.

I think he will take that as a compliment.

[Danke]

I think he will take that as a compliment.

I think he will take joy that every time I stay in China, I am being monitored.

[DamianTV]

So what happens when a person is discredited for no other reason than challenging those who issue Social Credit?

The entire idea of Social Credit is Blame Distribution away from those in power to those who shut the front door in the faces of their former friends because the State told them to do so. People blame each other, they look down at the consequences of their destruction instead of up at their architects.

Social Credit Scores can only serve to destroy civilization by turning everyone against everyone else.

[oyarde]

I think he will take joy that every time I stay in China, I am being monitored.

Are they checking your credit score over there? mine says 800 and I do not even use credit therefore I cannot be discredited and will be running things as usual here . We have taken the last decade to improve security ( make more arrows , sharpen tomahawks etc ) . You might as well start building an alliance with the discredited in china in case you get stuck there until I can get you smuggled back .

[devil21]

So what happens when a person is discredited for no other reason than challenging those who issue Social Credit?

The entire idea of Social Credit is Blame Distribution away from those in power to those who shut the front door in the faces of their former friends because the State told them to do so. People blame each other, they look down at the consequences of their destruction instead of up at their architects.

Social Credit Scores can only serve to destroy civilization by turning everyone against everyone else.

And they fully intend to implement the same system here and it's well under way already. Your allotment of blockchain based "money" will be tied to your "social credit score".

[Pauls' Revere]

And they fully intend to implement the same system here and it's well under way already. Your allotment of blockchain based "money" will be tied to your "social credit score".

and your social credit score will take into account the public's feedback. So if someone you meet or interact with doesn't like your look, thinking, or what you say, they can input a rating of 2-stars outta five. Social Credit as a personalized Yelp review.

[devil21]

and your social credit score will take into account the public's feedback. So if someone you meet or interact with doesn't like your look, thinking, or what you say, they can input a rating of 2-stars outta five. Social Credit as a personalized Yelp review.

Everyone is a potential Agent Smith. Brownshirts 2.0. Pick a metaphor.

In Nazi Germany it wasn't the SS that monitored people. It was the people's neighbors.

[timosman]

[Pauls' Revere]

Everyone is a potential Agent Smith. Brownshirts 2.0. Pick a metaphor.

In Nazi Germany it wasn't the SS that monitored people. It was the people's neighbors.

were screwed, nowadyas ppl can text it to the system in real time.