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    Cool Best candidates for Libertarian Party 2020

    Give us your thoughts on who would be the best for libertarians to run for president in 2020 and why.
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    Unfortunately it may be that Donald Trump would be best for libertarians in the long-run, even though he isn't much of a libertarian. By cleaning out the deep state and crushing the credibility of the MSM and establishment, we may find a much more clear path to political power in the future.

    But I'm certainly open to other options.
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    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Petersen/Bundy 2020

    Austin Petersen & Ammon Bundy.

    No close ties to the D&R crime syndicate. A bonus is that Ammon has been found Not Guilty by a jury of his peers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Unfortunately it may be that Donald Trump would be best for libertarians in the long-run, even though he isn't much of a libertarian. By cleaning out the deep state and crushing the credibility of the MSM and establishment, we may find a much more clear path to political power in the future.
    I tend to agree here. Trump is quietly doing some things that are very libertarian. He may well be there by 2020.
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    I would first need a list of people willing to run before I could give an opinion.
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    If they're any good they should run as Republicans.

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    John Boehner is pro-marijuana. He is a shoe-in for Libertarian POTUS candidate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    John Boehner is pro-marijuana. He is a shoe-in for Libertarian POTUS candidate.
    It's William Weld's turn. He's waited paitiently. And he's the "Original Libertarian" ...

    Boehner can be VP. (Or maybe Paul Ryan, since he's free now.)
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    Ron Paul if he was 20 years younger.
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    Larry Sharpe should have been the VP candidate last time. He's one of the few competent people involved with "the party".

    https://www.larrysharpe.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Ron Paul if he was 20 years younger.
    Dr No certainly has lost a step but would put the party over the 5% mark needed for consistent ballot access and maybe even 15% to be in the debates. But I don't think he ran in 2016 partly because he didn't want to hurt Rand's chances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Adam Kokesh 2020
    Very well spoken and has military service so his cutting military stance has umpf. Not a household name but would do well in media interviews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFCapt View Post
    Very well spoken and has military service so his cutting military stance has umpf. Not a household name but would do well in media interviews.
    Not sure if serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFCapt View Post
    I don't think he ran in 2016 partly because he didn't want to hurt Rand's chances.
    I think Ron Paul was on his knees praying every night thanking the Lord that Rand ran in 2016 taking the pressure off him to put himself through that $#@! again.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Adam Kokesh 2020
    yep, Kokesh for the LP ticket in 2020 has my vote - because the LP needs a firebrand rather than the milquetoast they've been nominating... if a miracle of miracles happens and the LP candidate debates Trump in 2020, only a firebrand like Kokesh will be able to articulate a coherent libertarian message when faced with a barrage of nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    Austin Petersen & Ammon Bundy.

    No close ties to the D&R crime syndicate.
    I take it you aren't aware that Petersen is running for the Senate as a Republican as I type this sentence. Not only is he connected, he joined the syndicate itself!

    http://www.businessinsider.com/austi...-ar-15-2017-10

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    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    Nobody is not only electable, but he/she/whateveryourpreferedpronoun actually won the last election.



    I wouldn't mind seeing that naked guy from the LP convention run. I'm curious about the face tattooed on his thigh. It kinds looks like Mr Darcy from Pride and Prejudice but I'm not sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Ron Paul if he was 20 years younger.
    I like Ron Paul at any age. If Ron would be will to run, he'd be a slam dunk nominee.

    As far as Trump, I see issues with NAP and National Debt that would ever allow him to be the LP candidate. You can't be a LP candidate and promise a $1 trillion per year defense budget.

    Oh, and "Take the guns first."
    Last edited by dean.engelhardt; 05-21-2018 at 11:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    I take it you aren't aware that Petersen is running for the Senate as a Republican as I type this sentence. Not only is he connected, he joined the syndicate itself!

    http://www.businessinsider.com/austi...-ar-15-2017-10
    Which is exactly what Ron Paul said we needed to do if we want to win.

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    RINO's Ron Paul & Austin Petersen - Too pro-American to be REAL Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    I take it you aren't aware that Petersen is running for the Senate as a Republican as I type this sentence. Not only is he connected, he joined the syndicate itself!

    http://www.businessinsider.com/austi...-ar-15-2017-10
    I'm aware that Austin is running for US Senate as a Republican, but he's more of a RINO like Ron Paul was. They're too good to be real Republicans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    I'm aware that Austin is running for US Senate as a Republican, but he's more of a RINO like Ron Paul was. They're too good to be real Republicans.
    I don't buy it. Petersen doesn't believe in teh NAP. He is a minarchist, which makes him a statist. He actively believes the government should have the ability to force you to obey it against your will when you arenm't violating the rights of anyone else. The list of things he thinks it should be able to do that to you for may be small, but it exists. Ron was the opposite. He really does believe in an endorse the NAP, even to the point to where he thinks the Golden Rule should guide foreign policy and warfare. If anything, Ron was the RINO. Which is not something I see as a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Which is exactly what Ron Paul said we needed to do if we want to win.
    Still waiting for that Libertarian wave. Ron did well at using his role as a podium from which to espouse libertarian values from. But that neither he nor anyone even close to his positions has won is telling I think. Amash is probably the closest, but he is far from as public or famous a figure as Ron.



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    Setting aside being good on the issues, I feel like a minimum standard should be having a job or profession unrelated to getting donations for being a libertarian.

    Larry Sharpe- makes the cut

    Daryl Perry - Missed cut

    Austin Petersen- Missed Cut

    Adam Kokesh- ummmmmm

    By the way, if Kokesh gets out of jail in time to run for president in 2020 and proceeds to win, he says he’ll abolish the federal government. That could be problematic for him, though, since he said in a Fox 5 interview that he’s 70 percent disabled from his service in Iraq (he was a Marine) and now lives on government assistance.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2013/...etsy-woodruff/

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    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    Still waiting for that Libertarian wave. Ron did well at using his role as a podium from which to espouse libertarian values from. But that neither he nor anyone even close to his positions has won is telling I think. Amash is probably the closest, but he is far from as public or famous a figure as Ron.
    Not saying you're wrong, but the Tea Party had a lot in common with the Libertarians. The PTB effectively quashed them both, and a lot of people quit the party when they met the internal resistance. Our philosophy is sound, but without warriors we can't win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    I don't buy it. Petersen doesn't believe in teh NAP. He is a minarchist, which makes him a statist. He actively believes the government should have the ability to force you to obey it against your will when you arenm't violating the rights of anyone else. The list of things he thinks it should be able to do that to you for may be small, but it exists. Ron was the opposite. He really does believe in an endorse the NAP, even to the point to where he thinks the Golden Rule should guide foreign policy and warfare. If anything, Ron was the RINO. Which is not something I see as a problem.
    Still trying to keep those who want smaller government divided are we?
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by dean.engelhardt View Post
    I like Ron Paul at any age. If Ron would be will to run, he'd be a slam dunk nominee.

    As far as Trump, I see issues with NAP and National Debt that would ever allow him to be the LP candidate. You can't be a LP candidate and promise a $1 trillion per year defense budget.

    Oh, and "Take the guns first."
    I like Ron at any age too but he'll be in his mid 80s by the time the next election comes around. I much prefer a Ron where I don't have to worry about him dying in office.
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    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    I like Ron at any age too but he'll be in his mid 80s by the time the next election comes around. I much prefer a Ron where I don't have to worry about him dying in office.
    How about Ron/Rand ticket. Rand is no Ron, but there is a good chance Ron could be very productive into his 90s. Heck, Jimmie Carter is still kicking it around these days.

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