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    Congressman Says Assange Has “Physical Proof” Russia Did Not Hack DNC

    Washington, D.C. — In a recent interview with Breitbart Radio, Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA), who reportedly visited the Ecuadorian embassy in London in August 2017 and met with WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange, said that Assange has physical evidence to prove that Russia did not provide WikiLeaks with Democratic National Committee (DNC) emails during the 2016 US presidential campaign.
    “By now, everybody knows that this idea that Trump was colluding with the Russians in order to get them to do things like steal the DNC emails and then release them through WikiLeaks, the public knows that’s just total baloney,” Rohrabacher said. “I knew the one man who could prove that it was all baloney was Assange. So I went to see him in London, and he confirmed for me that the Russians did not give him the DNC emails. He had physical proof of that, and he was going to let me see that and have that, but only once, I found an agreement so he wouldn’t get arrested when he leaves the Ecuadorian embassy in London.”
    Rohrabacher added:


    Rohrabacher added:
    Unfortunately, this was in the middle of having a special prosecutor, [and] any discussion with Trump and myself that mentions Russia will be used as an excuse by that special prosecutor to just quadruple all the areas of investigation into me and into Trump. So it is standing there. I’ve been waiting because I know that we’re not going to give this special prosecutor any more ammunition than he needs to try to destroy this president.
    Rohrabacher claimed that Assange had evidence and was willing to provide it in exchange for US/UK authorities agreeing not to arrest him upon leaving the Ecuadorian embassy in London, where the WikiLeaks co-founder has been “arbitrarily detained” under threat of arrest since 2012.

    Assange first sought political asylum in the Ecuadorian embassy after the UK sought to arrest him on a Swedish warrant that has since been lifted. British authorities, thought to operating covertly at the behest of the US— due to a purported secret federal grand jury indictment in the US for Assange— insist they will arrest him if he attempts to leave the embassy for violating the terms of his bail. It is believed that once arrested for the bail violation in the UK, Assange would likely be extradited to the US under the sealed indictment.


    Following his meeting with Assange, Rohrabacher was denied access to President Trump by White House Chief of Staff John Kelly due to Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Trump-Russia collusion during the 2016 US presidential election. In February, Rohrabacher “said he was told by Kelly that meeting with Trump could put the president in unnecessary legal jeopardy,” according to a report from The Intercept. Rohrabacher also claimed that Assange “did not want to release the evidence publicly” because he wanted to avoid exposing “his sources and methods.”


    The DNC and Hillary Clinton have continually accused WikiLeaks as acting as a “Russian cutout” during the 2016 election, after the transparency organization published private emails from Clinton campaign chair John Podesta as well as internal DNC emails. Assange says WikiLeaks never releases sources, but has emphatically denied that the organization was supplied the emails by Russia.


    Craig Murray— former UK ambassador to Uzbekistan and “close associate” of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange— publicly stated in a December 2016 interview with The Daily Mail that the Democratic National Committee’s emails were obtained by WikiLeaks from a “disgusted” DNC operative who had legal access to them, not Russia.


    “Neither of [the leaks] came from the Russians,” Murray said. “The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks.”


    Murray said the leakers were motivated by “disgust at the corruption of the Clinton Foundation and the tilting of the primary election playing field against Bernie Sanders.”


    The Daily Mail reported that Murray said he “retrieved the package from a source during a clandestine meeting in a wooded area near American University, in northwest D.C. He said the individual he met with was not the original person who obtained the information, but an intermediary.”


    An investigation into the alleged hack performed last year by Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) claimed that the “data was leaked (not hacked) by a person with physical access to DNC computers.” VIPS findings were presented to CIA Director Mike Pompeo last November, reportedly at the direction of President Trump.
    Assange has been unable to publicly comment on Rohrabacher’s statements, as the Ecuadorian government has barred him from receiving visitor and suspended his internet access for the past month.
    http://truthinmedia.com/congressman-...-not-hack-dnc/

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    confirmed for me that the Russians did not give him the DNC emails. He had physical proof of that,
    Does not rule out Russians getting the info and passing it to Assange via an intermediary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Does not rule out Russians getting the info and passing it to Assange via an intermediary.
    *Russian helicopters take zippy away*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Does not rule out Russians getting the info and passing it to Assange via an intermediary.
    Ya, maybe the Russians hacked the info from the servers, then gave it to an IT person who worked for the DNC and had access to that information, so that they could pass it on to wikileaks instead and it would look like an inside job. Then the Russians murdered the DNC staffer.

    You should write fan fiction for NYT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Ya, maybe the Russians hacked the info from the servers, then gave it to an IT person who worked for the DNC and had access to that information, so that they could pass it on to wikileaks instead and it would look like an inside job. Then the Russians murdered the DNC staffer.

    You should write fan fiction for NYT.
    Zippy became incoherent. Should he be red pilled?

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    Uh huh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Uh huh.
    Caught flat-footed without any talking points?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Does not rule out Russians getting the info and passing it to Assange via an intermediary.

    I'm sure your boss will tell you to post all about it when you have some evidence.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Caught flat-footed without any talking points?
    Why would I need a talking point? It's nothing. Truthinmedia said that Breitbart said that a congressman said that Assange said a thing. Great.

    A congressman said an unconfirmed, unconfirmable thing to Breitbart. Super.

    Will you be posting every MSNBC interview in which a democrat claims something about Russian collusion?
    Last edited by TheCount; 05-17-2018 at 02:45 PM.
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    Assange said Rohrabacher wasn't speaking for him.

    https://www.rollcall.com/news/politi...-emails-source

    Julian Assange appeared to dispute Rep. Dana Rohrabacher’s assertion that the WikiLeaks founder is ready to give up the source who provided his website with the Democratic National Committee emails it published last July.

    “WikiLeaks never has and never will reveal a source,” Assange tweeted Wednesday.

    He was responding to a Daily Caller report that Rohrabacher, a California Republican, and Kentucky GOP Sen. Rand Paul met to discuss a deal for Assange to out his source in exchange for a pardon from President Donald Trump.

    “Offers have been made to me — not the other way around. I do not speak to the public through third parties,” Assange tweeted.

    Assange’s unequivocal denial contrasts sharply with the public statements of Rohrabacher, who met with Assange in August at the Ecuadorian embassy in London where he has lived since seeking asylum there in 2012.


    In his own comments, Assange has been very careful in choosing his words:


    “We can say, we have said, repeatedly over the last two months that our source is not the Russian government and it is not a state party,” he said.
    Does not claim Russia was not the "original source". Does not say they were not behind the hacking.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 05-17-2018 at 05:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post

    Rohrabacher also claimed that Assange “did not want to release the evidence publicly” because he wanted to avoid exposing “his sources and methods.”

    Zippy you're such a tool.

    Assange was blaming your fake news media for twisting what Rohrabacher said that Assange said.
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.84856107f328

    Interview with Sean Hannity:

    Host Sean Hannity: “Can you say to the American people unequivocally that you did not get this information about the DNC, John Podesta’s emails — can you tell the American people 1,000 percent you did not get it from Russia . . . “

    Julian Assange: “Yes.”

    Hannity: “. . . or anybody associated with Russia?”

    Assange: “We — we can say and we have said repeatedly . . . “

    Hannity: “Right.”

    Assange: “. . . over the last two months, that our source is not the Russian government and it is not a state party.”

    — exchange on “Hannity” on Fox News, Jan. 3, 2017
    Note the wording in the exchange. Hannity asks Assange if he can guarantee 1,000 percent that WikiLeaks “did not get it [hacked information] from Russia … or anybody associated with Russia.” Assange interjects with “yes” before Hannity finishes his question, then says that “our source is not the Russian government and it is not a state party.” His answer leaves open the possibility that the information could have come through an intermediary.
    Rand Paul also met with Assange. What does he have to say on the issue?
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 05-17-2018 at 06:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    His answer leaves open the possibility that the information could have come through an intermediary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    ...
    You should see a doctor about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    You should see a doctor about that.
    So you are suggesting Assange wouldn't interview and research their source to validate the credibility and how the source obtained the emails? He knows how the source obtained the emails and it didn't involve the Russian government.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    So you are suggesting Assange wouldn't interview and research their source to validate the credibility and how the source obtained the emails? He knows how the source obtained the emails and it didn't involve the Russian government.
    This does not preclude existence of an intermediary.

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    download was to fast for Internet hack, was downloaded on flash drive from someone on the inside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    *Russian helicopters take zippy away*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    download was to fast for Internet hack, was downloaded on flash drive from someone on the inside.
    or it could have been made to appear so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    or it could have been made to appear so.

    How so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    How so?
    Tampering with the timestamps on the USB drive.



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