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    North Korea will not cancel the summit with Trump.

    Noone cancels on Trump.

    If anything, Trump will cancel on them.
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    Senator Rand Paul explained Tuesday that reports of North Korea threatening to cancel the imminent peace summit talks with President Trump are being ‘over-read’, and that the negotiations should go ahead unhindered.

    “This is consistent with the historic position [on the exercises] and that is why I wouldn’t over-read what is going on here,” said Senator Paul, who sits on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
    “I’m hopeful the talks will still occur and the talks we’re talking about having in Singapore. I think those will still occur.” Paul told Wolf Blitzer on CNN.


    “From their perspective, they also feel they gave up the three prisoners and said they are ending military-weapons testing,” Paul continued, adding “They are giving and haven’t seen a little bit on the other side from us.”
    “This is just their way of responding and pushing back,” Paul said. “But I don’t think it endangers the upcoming talks.”
    The Senator also commented on the Iran nuclear deal, noting that he supports talks between Iran and President Trump, saying “I think that we need more discussion at a higher level with Iran.”

    More at: https://www.infowars.com/rand-paul-n...t-is-still-on/
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    They threatened to cancel a day after Israeli snipers killed 60+ and wounded thousands of unarmed Palestinians, coincidence or that played a role too?


    North Korea Says US Must Stop Defending Israel, Which is 'Destroying' Middle East

    North Korea has condemned the U.S. and its alliance with Israel, which continued to experience deadly clashes between security forces and Palestinian protestors.On Friday, the official Korean Central News Agency called the U.S. out for repeatedly defending Israel from criticism at the United Nations Human Rights Council, which U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Nikki Haley once called "a haven for dictators" and has threatened to pull the U.S. out of. Palestinians have threatened to lodge a complaint with the international body over rising casualties as Israeli forces reportedly opened fire on Palestinian demonstrators near the Gaza border, where dozens have been killed and thousands injured since violent protests erupted over Israel's historic and ongoing seizure of land.
    "Israel's wild act of destroying Mid-east peace and mercilessly killing Palestinians is a hideous crime that deserves denunciations thousands of times," the state-run agency said of a commentary by North Korean Cabinet paper Minju Joson.
    "If the U.S. is interested in protecting human rights, it should keep pace with the efforts of the international community to denounce and check Israel's human rights abuses," Minju Joson wrote. "But, the U.S. chimed in with Israel in the eyes of the international community, fully disclosing that it is applying double-dealing standards in human rights and politicizing it."

    http://www.newsweek.com/north-korea-...le-east-895968

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    The White House on Wednesday downplayed comments by national security adviser John Bolton, who recently invoked Libya's decision to denuclearize during the Bush administration as a model for US policy on North Korea, potentially placing a planned US-North Korea summit in jeopardy.Hours earlier, a North Korean official said Bolton's remarks were indicative of an "awfully sinister move" to imperil the Kim regime. North Korea stunned Washington on Tuesday by threatening to abandon talks between President Donald Trump and Kim Jong Un if Washington insists on pushing it "into a corner" on nuclear disarmament.
    Referring to the Libya comparison, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said Wednesday that she hadn't "seen that as part of any discussions so I'm not aware that that's a model that we're using.
    "I haven't seen that that's a specific thing. I know that that comment was made. There's not a cookie cutter model on how this would work."

    She continued, "This is the President Trump model. He's going to run this the way he sees fit. We're 100% confident, as we've said many times before, as I'm sure you're all aware, he's the best negotiator and we're very confident on that front."

    More at: https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/16/polit...Top+Stories%29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The White House on Wednesday downplayed comments by national security adviser John Bolton, who recently invoked Libya's decision to denuclearize during the Bush administration as a model for US policy on North Korea, potentially placing a planned US-North Korea summit in jeopardy.Hours earlier, a North Korean official said Bolton's remarks were indicative of an "awfully sinister move" to imperil the Kim regime. North Korea stunned Washington on Tuesday by threatening to abandon talks between President Donald Trump and Kim Jong Un if Washington insists on pushing it "into a corner" on nuclear disarmament.
    Referring to the Libya comparison, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said Wednesday that she hadn't "seen that as part of any discussions so I'm not aware that that's a model that we're using.
    "I haven't seen that that's a specific thing. I know that that comment was made. There's not a cookie cutter model on how this would work."

    She continued, "This is the President Trump model. He's going to run this the way he sees fit. We're 100% confident, as we've said many times before, as I'm sure you're all aware, he's the best negotiator and we're very confident on that front."

    More at: https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/16/polit...Top+Stories%29
    A legitimate concern for NK... we know how that worked out for Libya.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    North Korea will not cancel the summit with Trump.

    Noone cancels on Trump.

    If anything, Trump will cancel on them.
    Hell to the yeah on this ^^

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    President Donald Trump rebutted his national security adviser, telling reporters that he didn't consider the nuclear disarmament of Libya a model for negotiations with North Korea over its atomic weapons program.

    "The Libya model isn't a model we have at all" for North Korea, Trump said Thursday during a meeting at the White House with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg.

    More at: https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/...r-12923064.php
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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    How much weight is in his words/rebuttal for domestic/foreign audiences?
    None.

    We're gonna sanction everyone... wait, no sanctions for some people, okay delay the sanctions.

    We're going to sanction ZTE... no, gotta save Chinese jobs, never mind.

    We're going to pull out of Syria right away... okay, soon as we can... okay, never mind.

    We're pulling out of NATO, it's obsolete. No, we're staying.

    China is a currency manipulator. No, wait, no it's not.

    We need a speedy withdrawal from Afghanistan. No, wait, let's send an extra 4,000 soldiers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    None.

    We're gonna sanction everyone... wait, no sanctions for some people, okay delay the sanctions.

    We're going to sanction ZTE... no, gotta save Chinese jobs, never mind.

    We're going to pull out of Syria right away... okay, soon as we can... okay, never mind.

    We're pulling out of NATO, it's obsolete. No, we're staying.

    China is a currency manipulator. No, wait, no it's not.

    We need a speedy withdrawal from Afghanistan. No, wait, let's send an extra 4,000 soldiers.
    Ramblings of a mad man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    None.

    We're gonna sanction everyone... wait, no sanctions for some people, okay delay the sanctions.

    We're going to sanction ZTE... no, gotta save Chinese jobs, never mind.

    We're going to pull out of Syria right away... okay, soon as we can... okay, never mind.

    We're pulling out of NATO, it's obsolete. No, we're staying.

    China is a currency manipulator. No, wait, no it's not.

    We need a speedy withdrawal from Afghanistan. No, wait, let's send an extra 4,000 soldiers.
    After watching The Office 'Negotiations' episode, it becomes evident that various crazy tactics can be used for more winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brushfire View Post
    Even if they are thinking that they've trapped our national leaders, negotiation tricks NK is playing now with frivolous damenda are gettng bit out of hand:





    North Korea demands Seoul return waitress 'defectors'

    Pyongyang claims the women were kidnapped from a North Korean restaurant in China, while Seoul insists they defected of their own free will AFP/GIUSEPPE CACACE
    20 May 2018

    SEOUL: North Korea has demanded Seoul repatriate a dozen waitresses who fled to the South two years ago, just days after abruptly calling off a planned inter-Korean meeting following weeks of tentative rapprochement.
    The issue has long been controversial, with Pyongyang claiming the women were kidnapped from a North Korean state-run restaurant in China while Seoul insists they defected of their own free will.

    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...ctors-10251532

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    It seems like SK's leftist leader may have hyped things also by floating Nobel Peace Prize idea for current tax payers funded leader exploiting his hunger for validation and approval:







    Why Trump’s North Korea summit is going off the rails, explained by an expert


    “Trump is loathed here.”

    By Zack Beauchamp
    May 21, 2018, 11:40am EDT

    The much-anticipated summit between President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, scheduled for June 12, is in trouble.

    After National Security Adviser John Bolton said last week that the US would seek complete and total North Korean nuclear disarmament, North Korea said publicly that it would never accept such an outcome — and threatened to pull out of the meeting if Washington didn’t adjust its expectations.
    North Korea experts see this as a long-overdue reckoning. The truth is that the United States and North Korea have long expected diametrically opposed outcomes from the talks — with the US wanting North Korea to give up its nukes and North Korea demanding recognition as a legitimate nuclear power. But neither side was willing to confront the reality of the situation. We’ve just been stumbling toward negotiations with no clear sense of how this yawning gulf could be resolved.
    How did we get here? Robert E. Kelly, a professor at South Korea’s Pusan National University, gave a really clear explanation in a series of Monday morning tweets: It’s all because of South Korean President Moon Jae-in.

    Moon is a leftist who took office in May of last year, back when Trump was threatening war with North Korea. He made a deep and concerted effort to try to broker negotiations between Trump and Kim to defuse the tension, and part of his strategy was making grandiose promises about what talks could accomplish — even floating the possibility that Trump could win a Nobel Prize to entice him to the table.

    https://www.vox.com/world/2018/5/21/...summit-bbc-dad




    The dream of Nobel Peace prize seems even more far fetched now that war crimes investigation has been launched after recent massacre of civilians of semitic races in which current ledaer's puppet masters could be implicated.
    Just because they made a mistake before doees not mean that Nobel prizer team would repeat it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    A legitimate concern for NK... we know how that worked out for Libya.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Update: The State Department says it had not received any information from North Korea concerning a threat to cancel the historic US-North Korea summit set for June 12. The State Department said it's still operating under the assumption that the Singapore summit is still happening.
    * * *

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...ilitary-drills
    Diplomatic/war positioning after absurd continuation of American rhetoric by - this time - it's meet, John Bolton.

    Yeah, sure Bolton . . . the USA seeks a Libyan model for North Korea . . . wtf?
    Is the Secretary of State Hillary running arms through the de facto capital Benghazi with the de jure capital Tripoli
    all through the private SECRET Denver-based server, again ?

    What woods has this arsehole John Bolton jus' walked outta ?

    North Korea . . . with 28,000 USA troops on the pennisula still . . . is seeking an end to the half-century old Korean War. Get a clue, Bolton.

    Clapper had the same problems in the 2014 negotiations with North Korea . . . same chit from the same mold I guess.
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    Truth is a social construct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan2017 View Post
    Diplomatic/war positioning after absurd continuation of American rhetoric by - this time - it's meet, John Bolton.

    Yeah, sure Bolton . . . the USA seeks a Libyan model for North Korea . . . wtf?
    ...
    Using these kinda terms about a key cabinet member could put big question mark about judgment of POTUS, is that what we really want ahead of midterms?
    That was one of the reasons GOP voters base was not thrilled with last SoS Tillerson and his allegedd M-word comments provided unnecessary ammo to liberal media.

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/10/...and-the-moron/

    POTUS is known to surround himself with the best people.


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    For some reason it showed as blank but tweet tag shows when quote the post.

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    Ok thanks, could be some browser settings then, will test it.



    In other news, we are in the era of name calling still, this time foreign leaders attackng one of the best people POTUS has surrounded himself with:



    Trump’s North Korea Nobel buzz could die with John Bolton

    Is Trump’s biggest obstacle to a deal with North Korea his own national security adviser?

    05/16/2018




    Donald Trump wants a deal with North Korea. His national security adviser thinks the North Koreans can’t be dealt with. And North Korea thinks he’s “human scum.”
    North Korea’s latest diatribe against the United States — and specifically a “repugnant” national security adviser, John Bolton — spotlights a core tension within the Trump administration as the president seeks a nuclear deal with North Korea that he hopes might earn him a Nobel Peace Prize.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...-bolton-595064



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    Instead of supporting the POTUS, some in media have already started to mock POTUS even before the start of historic Peace summit.
    Not too surprising considering how parts of media had mocked recent Peace Process ceremony in Jerusalem using very controversial depictions.




    'Weird, odd, a dumpster fire': Trump's North Korea summit coin ridiculed

    Coin marking nuclear talks that might not happen yet criticised as premature and giving Kim Jong-un unwarranted status

    Benjamin Haas in Seoul
    Tue 22 May 2018

    A North Korea peace talks coin featuring Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un has been struck by the White House before their summit meeting. Photograph: STR/AFP/Getty Images Stony faced, Donald Trump stares down a smiling Kim Jong-un in a high-stakes scene, unfolding entirely on the surface of a coin.

    The commemorative piece was minted by the White House Military Office, which typically designs coins for Trump’s trips abroad, before an expected summit between the two leaders in Singapore on 12 June. The coin describes the meeting as “peace talks”, in English and Korean.
    It is only a small element of America’s recent rapprochement with North Korea but it appeared to gain a currency all its own on social media.
    Olivier Knox (@OKnox) That Trump/Kim « coin » reminds me of my best souvenir ever, this heart-shaped lighter with GWB and Saddam (the fighter clicks up to reveal the flame). pic.twitter.com/WlhHmvszft
    May 21, 2018




    U.S. accused of blinking on China trade standoff as N. Korea meeting looms
    by Martha C. White / May.21.2018
    On Sunday, the Trump administration surprised the business world by announcing it would pull back on its plan to impose tariffs on Chinese goods. After many months of threats and tweets about China's unfair trading practices, suddenly the U.S. was "putting the trade war on hold," in the words of Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, and it was not clear what, if anything, China had to give up in return.
    That led to charges that China had outmaneuvered President Donald Trump.
    "I think this president has shown in a number of different issues that he wants a headline more than he actually wants to solve a problem," said Gabriel Horwitz, vice president for the economic program at Third Way.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/business/bus...-looms-n876126

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    [QUOTE=TheCount;6629769]They're counting on Trump being emotionally invested in the positive press that he's pre-received for a yet-to-be-accomplished deal. It's a good call to make on their part. He's like a customer at the car dealership who's already got the keys in his pocket.[/QUOTE]


    That would go very much against Art of the Dealer.


    Trump says North Korea meeting may be delayed, hints China is to blame

    The president says Xi is a ‘world-class poker player’ and suggests Kim changed his tone after meeting with the Chinese leader.

    By CRISTIANO LIMA
    05/22/2018 12:28 PM EDT

    President Donald Trump on Tuesday suggested that his historic meeting with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un may be delayed and that Chinese President Xi Jinping may be responsible for a breakdown in the pre-summit talks.
    Meeting with South Korean President Moon Jae-in at the White House, Trump said there was a "very substantial chance" the talks could be postponed from the scheduled date of June 12 if the countries fail to come to terms on various issues. He also hinted that the Chinese leader may be behind North Korea's return to more aggressive rhetoric against the U.S.

    Questions have grown over whether the highly anticipated diplomatic talks will go on as planned next month in Singapore due to recent criticism from Pyongyang of joint military exercises between the U.S. and South Korea. North Korea has also said it has no interest in a summit if the U.S. demands "unilateral nuclear abandonment."
    Trump on Tuesday floated that Kim's meeting with Xi earlier this month may be linked to his country's sudden hesitation to engage with the U.S. diplomatically.
    "I think there was a little change in attitude from Kim Jong Un" after his second meeting with Xi in early May, Trump said. "So I don't like that."

    Pressed on whether he believed Xi had discouraged Kim from meeting with U.S. leaders, Trump said "no" and that he wasn't "blaming anybody."
    But he added: "President Xi is a world-class poker player and I'd probably maybe doing the same thing that he would do. But I will say this, there was a somewhat different attitude after that meeting and I'm a little surprised."

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...-summit-602669





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    GOP Senator: China is winning

    Marco Rubio‏ Verified account @marcorubio

    #China is winning the negotiations. Their concessions are things they planned to do anyways. In exchange they get no tariffs, can keep stealing intellectual property & can keep blocking our companies while they invest in the U.S. without limits. #Losing
    3:28 AM - 21 May 2018

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    Supreme Leader of NK turning on Pence next? Pence usually keeps low profile and hasn't many major headlines every since Access Hollywood tape scandal aftermath.


    North Korea warns of nuclear showdown, calls Pence 'political dummy'

    By Joshua Berlinger, CNN
    Updated 4:35 AM ET, Thu May 24, 2018

    (CNN)A North Korean official has lashed out at US Vice President Mike Pence and said Pyongyang is ready for a nuclear showdown if dialogue with the United States fails.

    Choe Son Hui, a vice-minister in the North Korean Foreign Ministry, said if the US continued on its current path, she would suggest to North Korea's leadership that they reconsider the planned summit between President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

    "Whether the US will meet us at a meeting room or encounter us at nuclear-to-nuclear showdown is entirely dependent upon the decision and behavior of the United States," Choe said in comments carried by North Korea's state-run KCNA news agency Thursday.
    Choe was responding to comments by Pence made Monday during a Fox News interview that she deemed "unbridled and impudent."

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/23/polit...ntl/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It appears that Trump "jilted North Korean lover" approach may have been just what the doctor ordered.

    Literally minutes after we said that most experts expected a violent, angry outburst from North Korea's president in response to Trump's unexpected cancellation of the Singapore June 12 summit, such as this comment from Senator Jack Reed...
    Spoke w/ @BloombergTV’s @kevcirilli about Pres Trump pulling out of planned nuclear summit w/ North Korea & how if Pres Trump had taken a more considered approach to Mr. Kim’s initial offer for a summit, we wouldn’t be in this position.https://t.co/vY7HOiFYXf
    — Senator Jack Reed (@SenJackReed) May 24, 2018
    ... North Korea has come crawling back, virtually begging for a meeting.
    In a statement issued by state-run Korean Central News Agency, citing Vice Foreign Minister Kim Kye Gwan, North Korea announced it was willing to sit with the U.S. "whenever, however" through any method to try to resolve the outstanding issues.
    Gwan said that whereas President Trump’s announcement to one-sidedly cancel the planned summit is unexpected and very regrettable, North Korea remains unchanged in its aim to do everything possible for the peace and stability of Korean peninsula and humanity, and noted that President Trump's decision to cancel the summit is "not what the world wants" and the summit is necessary to resolve the current hostile bilatereal relationship.
    Furthermore, North Korea appears to be backtracking on the recent diplomatic escalation and has effectively apologized, stating that "its previous remarks regarding the U.S.-North Korea summit had been in protest against strong US remarks towards North."
    While we await the full KCNA statement, here are the key bullet points courtesy of Reuters and Bloomberg:

    • NORTH KOREA SAYS TRUMP'S SUMMIT CANCELLATION IS UNEXPECTED
    • NORTH KOREA SAYS IT'S WILLING TO MEET WITH U.S. AT ANY TIME
    • NORTH KOREA SAYS IT IS STILL WILLING TO RESOLVE ISSUES WITH UNITED STATES WHENEVER, HOWEVER
    • NORTH KOREA SAYS U.S.-N.KOREA SUMMIT IS NECESSARY TO RESOLVE CURRENT HOSTILE BILATERAL RELATIONSHIP
    • NORTH KOREA SAYS IT HAD WISHED `TRUMP MODEL' COULD RESOLVE ISSUES
    • NORTH KOREA SAYS IT HAD HOPED FOR ISSUES REGARDING N.KOREA TO BE RESOLVED "TRUMP-STYLE"
    • NORTH KOREA SAYS NO CHANGE IN N. KOREA'S WILL TO DO BEST FOR PEACE
    • NORTH KOREA SAYS ITS PREVIOUS REMARKS REGARDING U.S.-N.KOREA SUMMIT HAD BEEN IN PROTEST AGAINST STRONG U.S. REMARKS TOWARDS NORTH
    • N.KOREA HAS WILLINGNESS TO GIVE CHANCE, TIME TO U.S.
    • NORTH KOREA HAS WILLINGNESS TO GIVE CHANCE, TIME TO U.S.

    And the punchline:

    • NORTH KOREA SAYS CURRENT SITUATION REFLECTS DESPARATE NEED FOR SUMMIT

    Or, to summarize North Korea's response to Trump's "dear John" letter:
    North Korea right now pic.twitter.com/viFR0KHZa4
    — Quoth the Raven (@QTRResearch) May 24, 2018
    And now the ball is in Trump's court.


    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...enever-however


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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    'Art of the Deal' seems to have stopped trending on Amazon.
    ...and it's back
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Ok cool, so still winning then.
    Winning Bigly.

    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Oh thank goodness, the stress of not being told what to think was starting to get to me.
    So nice to hear.
    Truth is a social construct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Winning Bigly.

    Spot on. It is obvious, yet the media continues to make fools of themselves further diminishing what little credibility they once had.

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