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    Iraq's electoral commission says influential Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr's alliance is the early front-runner in national elections, with official results in from just over half of the country's provinces.
    The announcement Sunday night comes a day after polls closed across Iraq. The results are from 10 of the country's 19 provinces, including Baghdad and Basra.
    An alliance of candidates with close ties to Iraq's powerful Shiite paramilitary groups are in a close second while Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi has performed poorly across majority Shiite provinces that should have been his base of support.
    The election was marked by record low turnout. It was the first since Iraq declared victory over the Islamic State group and the fourth since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion that toppled Saddam Hussein.

    More at: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/05...e-results.html
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    Moqtada al-Sadr was leading in Iraq's parliamentary election with over half of the votes counted, the electoral commission said on Sunday, pointing to a surprise comeback for the powerful Shi'ite cleric who had been sidelined by Iran-backed rivals.

    Shi'ite militia leader Hadi al-Amiri's bloc, which is backed by Tehran, was in second place, according to the count of over 95 percent of the votes cast in 10 of Iraq's 18 provinces.
    Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi appeared to be running third. Security and commission sources had earlier said he was leading the election, which was held on Saturday and is the first since the defeat of Islamic State militants inside the country.
    Turnout was 44.52 percent with 92 percent of votes counted, the Independent High Electoral Commission said - that was significantly lower than in previous elections. Full results are due to be officially announced on Monday.
    Sadr and Amiri both came in first in four of the 10 provinces where votes were counted, but the cleric's bloc won significantly more votes in the capital Baghdad, which has the highest number of seats.
    The commission did not announce how many seats each bloc had gained and said it would do so on Monday after announcing the results from the remaining provinces.
    Abadi, a rare ally of both the United States and Iran, came in third in six provinces but ran fifth in Baghdad.
    The results unexpectedly showed former Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, who was touted as a serious challenger to Abadi, lagging behind.
    The ranking of these blocs can still change with results yet to be announced from eight provinces, including Nineveh, which has the second-largest number of seats after Baghdad.

    More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/pm-abadi-...075058645.html
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    LOL. It's going to be funny as hell when Iraq becomes one of the main countries defying the U.S. regarding Iran. The currently leadership is already much too friendly to Iran for Washington's tastes and has been since the fall of Saddam. The U.S. is its own worst enemy.
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    Restart the Persian Empire
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    Muqtada al-Sadr is not 'good' news.



    He makes REGULAR trips to Riyadh and is a staunch opponent of the patriotic PMU militia forces
    wanting them dismantled and 'absorbed' into 'regular' Iraqi military since day one.
    He had his 'own' militia but they were marginalized by the ever more effective PMU and popularized forces.

    Though a Shiite himself, he has his own 'brand' mal-contents,
    his own poverty stricken and economically depressed followers.
    He's a careful and shrewd player and was always leading 'protests' against the fractured Iraqi parliament
    and the 'privileged green zone' bootlicking political class aligned and subsidized with the West.
    He is capitalizing on the discontent and disenfranchised.

    He stumps for 'Iraqi sovereignty'...
    but in reality he's probably the worst choice to actually enable it because of his opposition to Tehran.
    A vote for al-Sadr (imo) is a vote for probable Civil War and sectarian strife between factions.

    Iraq is going to need help if it is ever going to be anything 'other' than a conquered vassal state of the hegemons.
    He represents the fracturing of the tri-partite Sovereigns: Syria-Iran-Iraq... just when it was getting off the ground.
    I can hear the west snickering in the background.
    Sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Muqtada al-Sadr is not 'good' news.



    He makes REGULAR trips to Riyadh and is a staunch opponent of the patriotic PMU militia forces
    wanting them dismantled and 'absorbed' into 'regular' Iraqi military since day one.
    He had his 'own' militia but they were marginalized by the ever more effective PMU and popularized forces.

    Though a Shiite himself, he has his own 'brand' mal-contents,
    his own poverty stricken and economically depressed followers.
    He's a careful and shrewd player and was always leading 'protests' against the fractured Iraqi parliament
    and the 'privileged green zone' bootlicking political class aligned and subsidized with the West.
    He is capitalizing on the discontent and disenfranchised.

    He stumps for 'Iraqi sovereignty'...
    but in reality he's probably the worst choice to actually enable it because of his opposition to Tehran.
    A vote for al-Sadr (imo) is a vote for probable Civil War and sectarian strife between factions.

    Iraq is going to need help if it is ever going to be anything 'other' than a conquered vassal state of the hegemons.
    He represents the fracturing of the tri-partite Sovereigns: Syria-Iran-Iraq... just when it was getting off the ground.
    I can hear the west snickering in the background.
    Sad.
    If you are correct there may at least be a silver lining, perhaps we will finally leave to get out of the way of a civil war.
    If that happens we may be able to stay out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    If you are correct there may at least be a silver lining, perhaps we will finally leave to get out of the way of a civil war.
    If that happens we may be able to stay out.
    If you remember... PM Haider and parliament JUST passed a bill declaring that Iraq is giving 'notice'
    that the 'security forces' of the West were no longer needed nor required and that a timetable
    for complete withdrawal was to be established.
    We will see where that goes now.

    I believe al-Sadr is the epitome of controlled opposition.
    His rhetoric is against the 'occupiers'... but let's watch his actions...
    ESPECIALLY 'who' starts giving Iraq money for his needed 'reforms' and re-building.
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    With 16 of 18 provinces counted, Sadr's Marching Towards Reform alliance, which includes Iraq' communists, was ahead in six and second in four regions.
    Next in the running was the Conquest Alliance, made up of ex-fighters from mainly Iran-backed paramilitary units that battled IS, with results putting them ahead in four provinces and second in eight others.
    The head of the list is Hadi al-Ameri, a long-time ally of Tehran, whose forces ended up battling alongside the US to oust the jihadists.
    Both Sadr and Ameri are political veterans well-known to Iraqis, but they pitched themselves as outsiders seeking to sweep clean the country's reviled elite.
    The complex electoral arithmetic of the Iraqi system, however, means that the final makeup of 329-seat parliament is still far from decided.
    In a televised address Monday afternoon, Abadi hailed the "winning lists" and called on all sides to "respect the results", after calls for a recount in the multi-ethnic province of Kirkuk.
    Election officials said that full final results could be announced in the next 24 hours.
    Whatever the outcome, there looks set to be lengthy horse-trading between the main political forces before any new premier and a coalition government can be installed.

    More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/iraq-coun...103844387.html
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    A document provided to Reuters by a candidate in Baghdad that was also circulating among journalists and analysts showed results from all 18 provinces.
    Reuters could not independently verify the document's authenticity but the results in it for the 16 announced provinces were in line with those announced by the commission.
    Reuters calculations based on the document showed Sadr had won the nationwide popular vote with over 1.3 million votes and gained around 54 of parliament's 329 seats.
    He was followed by Amiri with more than 1.2 million votes, translating into around 47 seats, and Abadi with more than 1 million votes and about 42 seats. Former Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, a close ally of Iran like Amiri, came in fourth with around 25 seats.
    The remaining uncounted ballots, mostly from Iraqis abroad, the security services, and internally displaced people voting in camps and elsewhere, might change the final seat tallies but only marginally.

    More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/firebrand...004930909.html
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    al-Sadr wins with or without massive US election meddling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by milgram View Post
    al-Sadr wins with or without massive US election meddling?
    If he is opposed to Iran and friends with Saudi Arabia, he probably got all the help he needed.
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    Official results released May 19 show that a political coalition led by Shiite leader Muqtada al-Sadr won the most seats in Iraq's parliamentary election, Al Jazeera reported. Al-Sadr's electoral list captured 54 of 329 parliamentary seats, while the bloc led by Hadi al-Amiri, who has close ties with Iran, came in second with 47 seats and Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi's coalition took third place with 42 seats.

    More at: https://worldview.stratfor.com/situa...esults-confirm
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    The U.S.-led coalition against the Islamic State militant group (ISIS) said Tuesday that it only planned on staying in Iraq as long as it was welcome after an opponent of foreign military presence won local elections.
    The remarks come after a political bloc—comprised of Shiite Muslim cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, communists and others—managed to secure the plurality of votes in last week's Iraqi election, raising uncertainties for the future of the U.S. and other foreign militaries helping local forces battle the remnants of ISIS in the war-torn country. Italian army Brigadier General Roberto Vannacci, who serves as deputy commanding general for training the joint land forces component of the coalition, said there has been no change in policy yet, but if there was, it would be up to political leaders at home.
    "We are here by the request of the Iraqi government. And regardless of who won the election, I think that if this request will continue to be addressed to the coalition, the coalition will remain," Vannacci told reporters during a weekly press briefing at the Pentagon Tuesday.

    "As you know, we are military and we don't make these kind[s] of decisions. These are political decisions. So I think that whenever we will be told by the Iraqi government that we will have to leave, the politicians of our nations will take the right decision," he added.

    More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-coaliti...215143707.html
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