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    Anybuddy got predictions on what the geopolitical maps will look like on June 13 ?

    Prediction . . .
    - nearly 99% of 28,000 USA troops stationed on the Korean pennisula will be sent stateside . . .
    not sure exactly where, though the border with the problem nation seems probable.



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    Hope it brings Peace, ends foreign wars and any concerns wil turn out to be untrue. But this as of now:



    ...
    This highly anticipated summit on the heels of prisoners release could be truly historic even if it is true that high level meetings/prisoners releases have taken place before and recent demand by NK leader could turn out to be problematic:


    Kim Jong-un Wants US Promise Not to Invade in Exchange for Nukes
    Apr 29, 2018


    North Korea cites Muammar Gaddafi's 'destruction' in nuclear test defence
    Pyongyang says the fates of the late Libyan leader and Saddam Hussein show the need for a nuclear deterrent


    Historic: American Trump and Korean Kim Jong Un to meet on June 12 in Singapore






    Update:


    CIA report says North Korea won't denuclearize, but might open a burger joint

    WASHINGTON ó A new U.S. intelligence assessment has concluded that North Korea does not intend to give up its nuclear weapons any time soon, three U.S. officials told NBC News ó a finding that conflicts with recent statements by President Donald Trump that Pyongyang intends to do so in the future.

    Trump is continuing to pursue a nuclear summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un even though the CIA analysis, which is consistent with other expert opinion, casts doubt on the viability of Trump's stated goal for the negotiations, the elimination of North Korea's nuclear weapons stockpile.

    Sleepy Eyes Chuck Todd of Fake News NBC just stated that we have given up so much in our negotiations with North Korea, and they have given up nothing. Wow, we havenít given up anything & they have agreed to denuclearization (so great for World), site closure, & no more testing!
    ó Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 22, 2018

    It suggests Kim is interested in a peaceful gesture to an American president whose love of fast-food burgers is well known ó and who, during the 2016 campaign, had said he wanted to talk nukes over a burger with the North Korean leader.

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    Nothing significant will be any different on June 13th. North Korea will not give up their nuclear program- not when it gets them the respect they have been looking for. US won't withdraw all the troops (if any) from South Korea. North and South may start to allow some people to cross the border.
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    If it was not for the North Korea nuke mountain collapse I could go either way between Zippy and what was posted above. But considering they might be in a desperate situation in needing of help and to head off tensions prior to everyone having a fit when radiation readings climb as a result, I am thinking a major change towards peace.
    Last edited by kahless; 05-11-2018 at 02:26 PM.

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    With Trump you can't count on anything until it happens.
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    Kim gets sick and the summit is postponed.
    Truth is a social construct. 👁👁

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Kim gets sick and the summit is postponed.
    John Bolton blows his nose, and its armageddon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Nothing significant will be any different on June 13th. North Korea will not give up their nuclear program- not when it gets them the respect they have been looking for. US won't withdraw all the troops (if any) from South Korea. North and South may start to allow some people to cross the border.
    saving this for later thank you.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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    The shooting of Gabrielle Gifford was blamed on putting a crosshair on a political map. I wonder what event we'll see justified with pictures like this.

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    Only prediction I'll make is that the US troops in SK will remain stationed there.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Speaking on Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan on May 13, Pompeo said the United States would not be willing to invest taxpayer dollars to help the communist state, but was willing to “lift sanctions” as a prelude for private American investment in North Korea’s energy, agriculture, and infrastructure sectors.
    Pompeo told Brennan: “What Chairman Kim will get from America is our finest, our entrepreneurs, our risk takers, our capital providers, not [aid from] our taxpayers.”
    Brennan then asked, “That sounds like sanctions relief to make it possible for a company to invest directly in North Korea. When would you do that?”
    Pompeo replied: “Ma’am, if we get denuclearization, of course there will be sanctions relief, certainly. There will be more than that.”
    The success of the Trump-Kim meeting may well depend on whether Kim now regards economic prosperity as more important than adhering to steadfast communist philosophy.

    More at: https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...to-north-korea
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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    On June 25, 1950, the Korean War began when some 75,000 soldiers from the North Korean People’s Army poured across the 38th parallel, the boundary between the Soviet-backed Democratic People’s Republic of Korea to the north and the pro-Western Republic of Korea to the south. This invasion was the first military action of the Cold War. By July, American troops had entered the war on South Korea’s behalf. As far as American officials were concerned, it was a war against the forces of international communism itself.
    https://www.history.com/topics/korean-war


    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Only prediction I'll make is that the US troops in SK will remain stationed there.
    and you are right . . . no end to a 50 year old Korean War . . .
    and North Korea is right Dan Quayle Pence is a "dummy"

    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    John Bolton blows his nose, and its armageddon.
    National Security Council Director and former UN Ambassador under Bush43 informs the North Koreans
    that the Libyan Disarmament Strategy devised by the former rogue Secretary of State is STILL on the table . . .(?)

    June 12 . . . nvm









    John Bolton Is a National Security Threat

    "John Bolton wants regime change in North Korea and Iran, and he’ll do whatever it takes to get it."

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/03/23/...curity-threat/
    Last edited by Jan2017; 05-29-2018 at 10:45 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Nobel Peace prizes will rain from the sky like hail.
    LOL, ya, crazy, and the only one who really deserves it is Trump.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
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    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Nobel Peace prizes will rain from the sky like hail.
    Media cartoons about the summit continue to cross the line, hopefully media will be proven wrong and it won't be just a photo-op but NK would agree to give up its nukes after ZTE jobs in China saved by POTUS.




    Poll: Will North Korea's Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un win Nobel Peace Prize?


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    Article from 2005: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20.../20/northkorea

    North Korea vows to abandon nuclear weapons project


    Cautious welcome by Bush for road map deal

    Aid and US promise not to invade seals agreement

    North Korea has agreed in principle to end its nuclear weapons programme and rejoin the international non-proliferation treaty, marking the biggest breakthrough in its three-year stand-off with the US.

    Under a draft accord issued by North Korea and five other countries in Beijing yesterday, the reclusive state promised to give up its main bargaining chip in return for energy, economic aid and a US promise not to attack.

    President George Bush yesterday gave the agreement a cautious welcome. "Five nations have spoken and said it's not in the world's interest that North Korea have a nuclear weapon, and now there's a way forward," he said after a national security council meeting at the White House.

    "It's a step forward in making the world a more secure place. The question is - over time will all parties adhere to the agreement?"

    Among the details yet to be hammered out are monitoring and aid payments, as well as the vexed question of whether North Korea can build a lightwater reactor to ease its chronic power shortages.

    Although vaguely worded, the joint statement issued by negotiators from the US, North Korea and four other regional players - China, South Korea, Japan and Russia - is seen as a road map towards the denuclearisation of the peninsula.

    North Korea said it was "committed to abandoning all nuclear weapons and existing nuclear programmes and returning at an early date" to the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and the safeguard system established by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

    In return, Washington pledged to respect North Korea's sovereignty and take steps to normalise relations. "The United States affirmed that it has no nuclear weapons on the Korean peninsula and has no intention to attack or invade with nuclear or conventional weapons," the statement read
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 05-29-2018 at 04:49 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    The deep state was still in charge, and China was not on board.

    Now Trump got China on board, and the deep state isn't in charge.

    Big difference this time.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Demand north korea surrenders .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Demand north korea surrenders .
    And threaten to send Oyarde to scalp Kim if they don't.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Demand north korea surrenders .
    Right, technically they are at a truce so first things first set the conditions for formally ending the war. Technically, I believe Japan and Russia are at a truce since WW2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The deep state was still in charge, and China was not on board.

    Now Trump got China on board, and the deep state isn't in charge.

    Big difference this time.
    Actually, China WAS onboard. And Trump IS deep state.

    the joint statement issued by negotiators from the US, North Korea and four other regional players - China, South Korea, Japan and Russia - is seen as a road map towards the denuclearisation of the peninsula.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Actually, China WAS onboard. And Trump IS deep state.
    Wrong.

    China was NOT on board when the deep state was in charge because the terms were different.

    Now that Trump has provided reasonable terms, they are on board.

    And Trump is not deep state, YOU are deep state..
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Wrong.

    China was NOT on board when the deep state was in charge because the terms were different.

    Now that Trump has provided reasonable terms, they are on board.

    And Trump is not deep state, YOU are deep state..
    I know you are but what am I?

    Read my post. The agreement included China, South Korea, Japan, and Russia besides the US. China was definitely on board.

    So who are "deep state"? Bankers like Goldman Sachs? Military generals? CEO's? State governors and other politicians? CIA? Trump's cabinet is full of those people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I know you are but what am I?

    Read my post. The agreement included China, South Korea, Japan, and Russia besides the US. China was definitely on board.
    Then why didn't it happen, zippy?

    My point is there was NO mutual agreement between all countries that could have been made before Trump (otherwise it would have). The deep state was preventing that from happening, they wanted too much control.

    Trump came in and said, hey China, you $#@!ing take care of this mess, we want out. China was like, "Uhhh, ok, are you sure??" and Trump was like, "$#@! ya, you have at 'em". And that was the mutually agreeable solution. Before that, the deep state would not allow that to occur, and no agreeable solution would have ever been made.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Then why didn't it happen, zippy?

    My point is there was NO mutual agreement between all countries that could have been made before Trump (otherwise it would have). The deep state was preventing that from happening, they wanted too much control.

    Trump came in and said, hey China, you $#@!ing take care of this mess, we want out. China was like, "Uhhh, ok, are you sure??" and Trump was like, "$#@! ya, you have at 'em". And that was the mutually agreeable solution. Before that, the deep state would not allow that to occur, and no agreeable solution would have ever been made.
    There was an agreement. Korea didn't abide it. And that wasn't the only agreement they made. They also agreed to end their nuke program in agreements signed with Clinton. It was violated too. But Trump wants a deal- any deal- so he can claim credit and take a victory lap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    There was an agreement. Korea didn't abide it.
    Good, so we are in agreement.

    My point is there was NO mutual agreement between all countries that could have been made before Trump (otherwise it would have).
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Demand north korea surrenders .
    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    Right, technically they are at a truce so first things first set the conditions for formally ending the war. Technically, I believe Japan and Russia are at a truce since WW2.
    And on a battleship off the coastline . . . a very convenient and secure location for all.




    Singapore was always a bad venue choice, imho.

    btw, Kim Jung-un's father had an earlier Korean War "summit" as I understand . . .
    the Dad and former dictator took an armored train to Vladivostok.

    Russia’s plans to extend the Trans-Siberian railway through North Korea to South Korea is facing a major geopolitical hurdle.
    This project is a non-starter as long as the Korean War remains unfinished. Moscow’s plans of linking the two parts of the divided peninsula with railway, natural gas, and electricity lines is nothing but a pipe dream.
    Source : (blogger) :
    hxxps://leonidpetrov.wordpress.com/russia-korea/
    Last edited by Jan2017; 05-31-2018 at 07:50 AM.
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    Unbelievable that eight of the 20 original atomic cannons still exist.
    Some were sent to Korea - but only 'Atomic Annie' during the May 1953 Nevada test has been fired.

    Atomic Annie is now at Fort Sill, Oklahoma after the 1950's deployment in Germany,
    with one of her 280mm nuclear cousins - 'Sad Sack' - now in the Smithsonian.
    How many are still on the Korean peninsula (?)




    Trump
    (circa July 2015) : "John McCain is NO 'war hero' . . . - I like people who weren't captured, ok!"
    (circa June 2016) : "How could the FBI NOT indict her !? "



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    Default A or B or C ...???

    It's ON... Korea unifies in 3 to 5 years

    It's OFF ...ww3 looms

    It's a MAYBE ...they change the date, city or time

    (D.) All or ANY of the Above

    [e.] Rick Grimes briefly appears in Season 10 of THE WALKING DEAD and Season 5 of FEAR THE WALKING DEAD

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