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    Student Reported To Police For 'Talking About' Concealed Carry

    Leandra Westbrook, a junior at Kent State University, claims she was wrongfully detained by campus police after students overheard her talking about her concealed carry license.
    Westbrook, a junior studying political science, told Campus Reform that she had a phone conversation with a friend on the afternoon of April 27, during which she lamented “how it is a shame that I cannot carry a gun on campus, considering I have my carry license.”


    Student cadet officers overheard Westbrook’s conversation, and then reported her to campus police at approximately 12:00 p.m., according to a copy of the police report obtained by Campus Reform.
    Then, just before Westbrook was slated to take a quiz for her anatomy class, police entered the lecture hall of 200 students and she was “removed from class and searched,” according to both Westbrook and the police report.

    Though Westbrook understands that the officers were “just doing their jobs,” she maintains that that the student cadets reported her in bad faith.
    “I do not believe they genuinely thought I was a threat, because I specifically said I had a license to carry,” Westbrook told Campus Reform. “In the conversation I had, there was no way to misinterpret what I said, or to even suggest that I had a gun with me.”
    She noted that she “would not be surprised if the student cadet who reported me was targeting me for being pro-Second Amendment,” adding that she’s historically faced harassment and vague threats from her peers due to her conservative beliefs.
    As the former Vice President of her campus’s Turning Point USA chapter and a board member of the school's Students for Life chapter, Westbrook says she’s well-known as a conservative, and she thinks it’s possible that the cadets who reported her knew that.
    After police removed her, Westbrook recalled that she “was too shaken up and disturbed to return back to class.”
    Days later, she met with the school’s Dean of Students to sound the alarm about the ongoing harassment she has faced, only to be told that nothing can be done.
    Now, Westbrook says she has decided to “take matters into my own hands,” declaring that “I’ll be reporting the people who harassed me to the police, as well as the student cadets who reported me for having a gun for falsifying a report, as they said that they heard me say I had a gun and was afraid to get caught with it, which is not true.”
    She did, however, say that she plans to wait until final exams are over to file the report, so as not to interfere with anyone’s study schedule.
    “My main concern is that people are not being held accountable for their actions,” she explained.
    “Their words don’t bother me, but if I was to say something like that to them, my guess is it wouldn’t be tolerated by the university.”
    In addition to reporting those students, Westbrook said she also plans to start a concealed carry club at Kent State.
    “My hopes are to teach people about gun safety and the gun control laws we already have in place, because a lot of people who speak on the subject are very uneducated [about gun laws],” Westbrook added.
    Campus Reform reached out to Kent State University for comment, but did not receive a response despite repeated requests.

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    She seems very mature and level headed about the whole thing. Hope her harassment complaint is taken seriously.

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    would not be surprised if the student cadet who reported me was targeting me for being pro-Second Amendment
    $#@!ing hall monitors are cadets now?

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    Now, Westbrook says she has decided to “take matters into my own hands,” declaring that “I’ll be reporting the people who harassed me to the police, as well as the student cadets who reported me for having a gun for falsifying a report, as they said that they heard me say I had a gun and was afraid to get caught with it, which is not true.”
    As superficially gratifying as it may feel, making war on snitches by becoming a snitch is doomed to fail.

    Completely apart from the fact that doing so merely serves to promote and reinforce the pernicious dynamic of perpetually whinging "outrage," the snitch-brigade is always going to be able to out-snitch you. The "three felonies a day" principle is on their side. There is no way to win by fighting them on their terms - you can only lose to them or become one of them.

    File under "I have seen the enemy and he is us" ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    $#@!ing hall monitors are cadets now?
    LOL. There is a story to tell I forgot about. While you were sleeping ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    As superficially gratifying as it may feel, making war on snitches by becoming a snitch is doomed to fail.

    Completely apart from the fact that doing so merely serves to promote and reinforce the pernicious dynamic of perpetually whinging "outrage," the snitch-brigade is always going to be able to out-snitch you. The "three felonies a day" principle is on their side. There is no way to win by fighting them on their terms - you can only lose to them or become one of them.

    File under "I have seen the enemy and he is us" ...
    If those future cops knowingly made false allegations against her they should be charged with misdemeanors (and perhaps have restraining orders made against them if this a form of ongoing harassment against her), but if they honestly believe they correctly heard what they heard, they have very poor comprehension skills and are unworthy of being future cops, so the question is which is it?

    She and others should start dropping generic Q-tips all around their table whenever she seems them sitting around on campus.

    ...And say, there are the 1st/2nd. Amend. auditors on Youtube, one of the guys is called TexasSheepDog (or something like that), they have an interesting idea that they do, they open carry using holsters and black rubber training pistols (and sometimes a pink phallic shaped toy that he carries concealed, which ); perhaps she can start a club doing something like that on campus to raise aware and get people to realize their failure in logic when seeing a firearm in view that is holstered on somebody in not uniform versus one that is.
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    Westbrook recalled that she “was too shaken up and disturbed to return back to class.”
    See now, it is not all fun time and games, unwarranted actions have very real consequences. Think any of those brain-busters actually gives two-deuces about what they cost her emotionally though? Not to mention her loss of privacy.
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