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  1. #31
    [QUOTE=VIDEODROME;6627323]
    I dunno, I've lived around Amish people and that's not for me lol. I would buy produce from them and it seemed sad their kids were in awe of my old beat up car.
    That ain't sad: you should be in awe of it, too. Old beat-up cars rule.

    Some Amish also still seem cool with animal abuse mistreating their horses. Something about God giving man dominion over the animals is interpreted as giving permission to treat them poorly or leave them Parked for hours still tethered to their buggies.
    Oh brother, who cares? Remember how I was more concerned about HUMANS living satisfying, meaningful, happy lives? If that meant we had to kill all the horses and eat them, I'd be down with that. So would every other (even marginally) sane person.

    Also, young Amish who simply have to much human curiosity about the world can be caught being to familiar with Evil Technology and shunned. I don't think the Amish are really above corruption either and Elders may wield Shunning as a tool to protect their interests or in some cases their drug crops.
    Whoa, there is still corruption, even among the Amish? This cannot be! This must not stand!

    See, this is why I call it Neo-Puritanism (this week). And by this paragraph you seem to be infected by it, Videodrone. It's this obsession to create a perfect utopia on Earth, a driving manic force to sculpt human nature into New [Fill-In-The-Buzzword] Man, and the deranged and reality-ignoring belief that they could actually succeed. Because obviously there is corruption in human societies. Obviously there is unkindness. Obviously people have their own interests and agendas. That you trumpet the existence of these obvious universalities as proof of the Failure of the Amish communities is very telling. It reveals to us readers, and perhaps, if you're extremely smart and capable of self-reflection, to yourself, what it is your mind-bug is driving at. Failure to do what? To eliminate human failings, failings which obviously cannot be eliminated. Why does the mind-bug want you to focus on that? Ahh, you'll have to figure that out on your own. Think on it.

    I suppose Modernity can have awkward growing pains as things advance, but I don't see any benefit to going backwards and regressing in an idealized Shire.
    There is no backwards, only forwards. Now jump in the Ghetto Cruiser and let's do this thing! Savin' the world. Buckin' the trends. Remember: the rebel of the twenty-first century will be old-fashioned. And one way or other, we shall assuredly win. The future belongs to me.



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  3. #32
    I guess I was just saying I don't see any sign that Amish life is somehow better.

    Would I want to throw away modern conveniences and still have many of the same community 'flaws'?



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  5. #33
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  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by VIDEODROME View Post
    I guess I was just saying I don't see any sign that Amish life is somehow better.

    Would I want to throw away modern conveniences and still have many of the same community 'flaws'?
    If perfection and only perfection is your blinding guiding light, then yes, no life is better than any other. Whatevs, yo? Like, pick your drug, man, they're all the same. Who cares and junk? Just mellow out.

    Embrace the Nihilism.

  7. #35
    Amish suicide rate: 0%
    Amish happy-pill use (psychotropic drugs: Amien, Prozac, Ritalin): 0%
    Amish pornography addiction rate: 0%
    Amish divorce rate: <1%
    Amish men enslaved to child support payments to whores: 0%
    Amish imprisonment rate: 0%
    Amish SJW rate: 0%
    Cross-dressing Amish boys: 0%
    Amish depression rate: <2% (temporary, post-partum)

    Yes, there are some modes of living that are more effective than others. Yes, community matters.

    No? You disagree? OK, just keep popping those pills, America! That'll solve your problems.

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by H_H View Post
    Amish suicide rate: 0%
    Amish happy-pill use (psychotropic drugs: Amien, Prozac, Ritalin): 0%
    Amish pornography addiction rate: 0%
    Amish divorce rate: <1%
    Amish men enslaved to child support payments to whores: 0%
    Amish imprisonment rate: 0%
    Amish SJW rate: 0%
    Cross-dressing Amish boys: 0%
    Amish depression rate: <2% (temporary, post-partum)

    Yes, there are some modes of living that are more effective than others. Yes, community matters.

    No? You disagree? OK, just keep popping those pills, America! That'll solve your problems.
    The Amish suicide rate is actually about half that of the general population (not zero). Yet the Amish suffer from other problems, including increased polydactyly (extra fingers), dwarfism, other genetic issues, etc.

    The problems we face as Americans won't be solved by becoming Amish (or Mennonites, or Hutterites), but we definitely do need to return to that sense of community that I remember from the 1970s, and that got stripped away in the 1980s.

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by H_H View Post
    Amish suicide rate: 0%
    Amish happy-pill use (psychotropic drugs: Amien, Prozac, Ritalin): 0%
    Amish pornography addiction rate: 0%
    Amish divorce rate: <1%
    Amish men enslaved to child support payments to whores: 0%
    Amish imprisonment rate: 0%
    Amish SJW rate: 0%
    Cross-dressing Amish boys: 0%
    Amish depression rate: <2% (temporary, post-partum)

    Yes, there are some modes of living that are more effective than others. Yes, community matters.

    No? You disagree? OK, just keep popping those pills, America! That'll solve your problems.
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  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by RJ Liberty View Post
    The Amish suicide rate is actually about half that of the general population (not zero).
    Actually, your number is just as made up as mine. Lancaster County =/= All Amish. Nobody knows the real number.

    Anyway,...
    but we definitely do need to return to that sense of community
    you are actually totally right. This was my only point, too. I wasn't saying that we should all literally convert to Amism, any more than that we should literally become Hobbits. They're just mental pictures to open a up vista and make us realize: yes, there could be a better way.

  11. #39
    At least I can mellow out with my central air conditioning.


    Edit: you seemed frustrated by Modernity while referencing the Amish life. Maybe I misunderstood what changes you meant.
    Last edited by VIDEODROME; 05-11-2018 at 03:37 PM.

  12. #40
    Hmm...


    What if there could be a Virtual Reality Amish Simulator for people who want to socialize that way?



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