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    White House: Nancy Pelosi responsible for waterboarding policy, not CIA pick Gina Haspel

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...ck-gina-haspel

    May 08, 2018



    The White House has aggressively stepped up its campaign for secret agent Gina Haspel to run the CIA, directly challenging Democratic leaders over “enhanced interrogation” of terrorists in claiming they were responsible for the policy, not those who implemented it.

    In a new statement defending Haspel against expected charges she had a role in waterboarding al Qaeda’s killers, the White House said instead that it was policymakers like then-House Minority Whip Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., who were briefed and gave nod of approval.

    From the White House statement:

    • Policymakers who set up, approved, and were briefed on enhanced interrogation techniques are the ones who were responsible for the program, not the CIA’s dedicated and professional officers like Haspel who served honorably.
    • Congressional leadership, including House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), were briefed as early as 2002 on the CIA’s interrogation program according to unclassified documents by the agency.
    • In 2009, then-CIA Director Leon Panetta confirmed this, stating that CIA officers had briefed certain Members of Congress in 2002.
    • The Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel, which signed off on the CIA’s interrogation program in 2002, determined the program’s legality, not career officers at the agency.


    As Haspel, a 33-year veteran who is slated to be the first woman to run the agency and the first from the ranks in 52 years, the administration is also ripping the media and critics for falsely saying that Haspel was present at one tough interrogation.

    Said the White House:

    • Director of CIA’s Public Affairs Office Dean Boyd: “It is important to note that [Haspel] has spent nearly her entire CIA career undercover. Much of what is in the public domain about her is inaccurate.”
    • One news outlet had to issue a retraction after it published an inaccurate story that falsely claimed Haspel was present for a reported enhanced interrogation.
    • A CIA spokesperson said that “nearly every piece of reporting” in the article was “incorrect in whole or in part.”
    • Given the sensitive and classified nature of much of their work, the CIA and Haspel cannot always deny or push back against false or inaccurate reporting.
    • By enduring these false attacks on her character, Haspel has put America’s national security above her own self-interest.






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    If there is one thing that Pelosi and Congress is good at these days, it's avoiding responsibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    I was under the impression that Pelosi was a liberal, democrat and very opposed to enhanced torture.
    “You just have to sort of figure out how to — getting back to that word, ‘balance’ — how to balance the public and the private efforts that are necessary to be successful, politically, and that’s not just a comment about today,” she said. She added: “Politics is like sausage being made. It is unsavory, and it always has been that way, but we usually end up where we need to be. But if everybody’s watching all of the back-room discussions and the deals, then people get a little nervous, to say the least. So you need both a public and a private position.
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    Fight fire with fire - Chop heads, drown in cages - Change the Law

    All torture and other crimes are a SECRET so it can never be know publicly if she "served honorably".
    From the White House statement:

    • Policymakers who set up, approved, and were briefed on enhanced interrogation techniques are the ones who were responsible for the program, not the CIA’s dedicated and professional officers like Haspel who served honorably.
    "Fight fire with fire", change the law. Chop off heads, drown in steel cages. gotta fight viciously and violently.



    This is what the WH considers serving honorably.
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    Whoever came up with interrogation tactics for the USA was obviously a big fan of the "Gulag Archipelago" - where most would be repelled by such tactics, our government seems to get a big ol woody from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    All torture and other crimes are a SECRET so it can never be know publicly if she "served honorably".
    "Fight fire with fire", change the law. Chop off heads, drown in steel cages. gotta fight viciously and violently.



    This is what the WH considers serving honorably.

    Donald is probably a fan of the "secret brand". Extreme pain on the inside, with no visible damage on the outside.

    Maybe "the bridle" is a good secondary tactic - complementary to a deep brand.

    Gulag Chief:
    "Article 58-1a, twenty five years... What did you get it for?"
    Gulag Prisoner: "For nothing at all."
    Gulag Chief: "You're lying... The sentence for nothing at all is 10 years"



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    Quote Originally Posted by brushfire View Post
    Whoever came up with interrogation tactics for the USA was obviously a big fan of the "Gulag Archipelago" - where most would be repelled by such tactics, our government seems to get a big ol woody from them.



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