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Back in my day, the execs just hired a couple of loose women to work as secretaries and receptionists after a thorough interview/vetting process. Women that were more than willing to give an incel a whirl after a few drinks after work. And then there were the inter-office relationships. But in our current culture its often verboten or at least discouraged from having such relationships in the one place that most people spend their entire day.
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How much sense does it really make to have women in the workplace anyway? Just asking.
I mean, do they contribute anything?
Do we still believe that kids need raising or is that a transracisphobic idea now?
Other than what specs detailed that they can contribute, which is true, what kind of phenomenal productivity benefit does it impart to us to have all our women in our workplaces?
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Will all employees be required to submit proof of activity on a monthly basis?
Will they be required to use company procured professionals if they can't document private activity?
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Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
I get that you think it is stupid, but I see the business owners position as valid. Imagine how many sandwiches they had to take back/waste from customers that didn't ask for bacon and ordered the club anyways, then wanted it exchanged because their God might smite them if they ate some pig. Probably tens of thousands of dollars worth of product. I see confirming that you want bacon as a reasonable ask.
Yeah, probably not. Seriously, I can see women as being very good at design. A lot of things, really.
But as a general societal how-to-order-things question, I'm not convinced that having them do those things is better and more important than the thing they did for thousands of years: raising children and managing households.
I'm better at child-rearing and running the household than my wife. If we had a daughter, she might be better as I don't know what I'd do with a girl, but since I had much younger male siblings, raising a boy is easy. She makes decent cash at her job, which takes the load off of me and lets me spend more time with our kid. Its a partnership, but I think I'm getting the better end of the deal.
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"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
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"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
As much fun as all of the sexual humor is that can be generated by the seemingly ridiculus headline, let's just be clear that this has nothing to do with getting laid, and everything to do with demonization of yet another group of people.
“Incels,” or “involuntary celibates,” are part of the online male supremacist ecosystem. The Southern Poverty Law Center added male supremacy to the ideologies tracked on the hate map this year, because of the way these groups consistently denigrate and dehumanize women, often including advocating physical and sexual violence against them. On the internet, the male supremacist ideology takes a few different forms. One of the newest forms is “incel.”
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https://www.splcenter.o r g/hatewatch/2018/04/24/i-laugh-death-normies-how-incels-are-celebrating-toronto-mass-killing
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For how much longer is Suzanimal gonna bring up her bacon sandwich stories in every thread?
Is she looking for a chip-in to send her some?
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Yeah, that makes sense.
I'm not on a soapbox saying how we all should be, I'm just....
on a soapbox saying how we all should be.
No, not really. We live in the world we live in, messed up as it may be, and have to try to do the best we can in it. I am far more traditional than most, but I understand that doesn't work for everyone.
You're already about 100 times more traditional and closer to the ideal than normal, merely by raising your child at all. So good on ya. Plus, traditionally the man doing the farm/outdoors/tradesman work in no way ruled out spending lots of time with his sons -- as soon as they were old enough to be useful, they'd be right there with him, ten-twelve hours a day!
Yes, you are being held back and controlled, don't you have any self-respect?
Quit allowing women to keep you docile and then make you think you're the one that has it easier, that's their whole plan, show her who's boss and go get a long-houred-low-paying-stressful-job, that'll show her and let her know that you're not going to be oppressed and used no more.
She's foolin yuh, an yuh like it.......
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So, why is this phenomenon occurring? Why does Suzanimal's son prefer cash to girls?
Someone has figured finally it out -- why men are turning their backs on women.
And guess what: it's a woman that figured it out!
OK, obviously all men already know this all too well. But it's nevertheless amazing that a woman was able to figure it out. She's the first one I've ever seen publicly do so.
Well, outside the membership of my church.
Which points out the solution for all the Suzanimal's Sons of the world: convert to Mormonism.
I mean, there may be another solution. I just don't know what it is. Women in general are wrecked; they're hopeless; and they're not going to be fixed any time soon.
I don't even know where to begin.
A broken idea of sex is flourishing. Blame capitalism
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Feminism and capitalism are at odds, if under the one women are people and under the other they are property. Despite half a century of feminist reform and revolution, sex is still often understood through the models capitalism provides. Sex is a transaction; men’s status is enhanced by racking up transactions, as though they were poker chips.
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This idea of sex as something men get, often by bullying, badgering, tricking, assaulting, or drugging women is found everywhere. The same week as the Toronto van rampage, Bill Cosby was belatedly found guilty of one of the more than 60 sexual assaults that women have reported. He was accused of giving them pills to render them unconscious or unable to resist. Who wants to have sex with someone who isn’t there? A lot of men, apparently, since date rape drugs are a thing, and so are fraternity-house techniques to get underage women to drink themselves into oblivion, and Brock Turner, known as the Stanford rapist, assaulted a woman who was blotted out by alcohol, inert and unable to resist.
Under capitalism, sex might as well be with dead objects, not live collaborators. It is not imagined as something two people do that might be affectionate and playful and collaborative – which casual sex can also be, by the way – but that one person gets. The other person is sometimes hardly recognized as a person. It’s a lonely version of sex. Incels are heterosexual men who see this mechanistic, transactional sex from afar and want it at the same time they rage at people who have it.
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At the New York Times, Ross Douthat credited a libertarian with this notion: “If we are concerned about the just distribution of property and money, why do we assume that the desire for some sort of sexual redistribution is inherently ridiculous?” Part of what’s insane here is that neither the conservative Douthat nor libertarians are at all concerned with the just distribution of property and money, which is often referred to as socialism. Until the property is women, apparently. And then they’re happy to contemplate a redistribution that seems to have no more interest in what women want than the warlords dividing up the sex slaves in the Trojan war.
Happily someone much smarter took this on before Toronto. In late March, at the London Review of Books, Amia Srinivasan wrote: “It is striking, though unsurprising, that while men tend to respond to sexual marginalisation with a sense of entitlement to women’s bodies, women who experience sexual marginalisation typically respond with talk not of entitlement but empowerment. Or, insofar as they do speak of entitlement, it is entitlement to respect, not to other people’s bodies.”
That is, these women who are deemed undesirable question the hierarchy that allots status and sexualization to certain kinds of bodies and denies it to others. They ask that we consider redistributing our values and attention and perhaps even desires. They ask everyone to be kinder and less locked into conventional ideas of who makes a good commodity. They ask us to be less capitalistic.
What’s terrifying about incel men is that they seem to think the problem is that they lack sex when, really, what they lack is empathy and compassion and the imagination that goes with those capacities. That’s something money can’t buy and capitalism won’t teach you. The people you love might, but first you have to love them.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ogyny-feminism
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