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    Default Rand Paul: Congress Moves to Give the President Unlimited War Powers

    By RAND PAUL • May 7, 2018

    In the near future, Congress will debate a new Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF). I use the word “debate” lightly. So far, no hearings have been scheduled, and no testimony is likely to be heard unless something changes. That’s a shame, because this is a serious matter, and this is a deeply flawed AUMF.

    For some time now, Congress has abdicated its responsibility to declare war. The status quo is that we are at war anywhere and anytime the president says so.

    So Congress—in a very Congress way of doing things—has a “solution.” Instead of reclaiming its constitutional authority, it instead intends to codify the unacceptable, unconstitutional status quo.

    It is clear upon reading the AUMF, put forward by Senators Tim Kaine and Bob Corker, that it gives nearly unlimited power to this or any other president to be at war whenever he or she wants, with minimal justification and no prior specific authority.

    That isn’t an AUMF. That isn’t Congress reclaiming its constitutional duties. That’s a complete rewriting of the role of the executive and of the constitutional separation of powers.

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    So retiring Bob Corker wants to give Donald Trump a parting gift even though Corker supposedly hates Trump.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    So retiring Bob Corker wants to give Donald Trump a parting gift even though Corker supposedly hates Trump.
    Maybe he wants to run in 2020.
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    They already have.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Kind of ironic that the Democrats have successfully challenged the Trump Admin in court numerous times on flimsy arguments, yet they don't take him to court on such an obvious and blatant Constitutional violation.

    Oh yeah, the neocons and MIC lobby own both parties. Never mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Kind of ironic that the Democrats have successfully challenged the Trump Admin in court numerous times on flimsy arguments, yet they don't take him to court on such an obvious and blatant Constitutional violation.

    Oh yeah, the neocons and MIC lobby own both parties. Never mind.
    Nancy Pelosi's only criticism of Trump bombing Syria with no real evidence of a chemical weapons attack is that he didn't do enough.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    I guess trump really is gonna MAGA.
    No - No - No - No
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    Quote Originally Posted by asurfaholic View Post
    I guess trump really is gonna MAGA.
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    When congress acts, it acts stupid.


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    To be the official military of the global NWO, we can't be bothered with national legislative processes to deploy troops wherever "democracy" is quickly needed, nor have to worry about defined enemies. Only unilateral executive declarations and vague labels like cuz "ISIS" and "Al Shabbab" and "associated forces" are needed, all provided and directed by the UN behind closed doors.
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