Fight grows over who owns real estate drowned by climate change

[kpitcher]

This isn't a climate change debate article, but it does present an interesting discussion. If you once owned land that is now underwater can someone be trespassing in a boat?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...climate-change

One April morning in 2016, Daryl Carpenter, a charter boat captain out of Grand Isle, La., took some clients to catch redfish on a marsh pond that didn’t use to exist. Coastal erosion and rising seas are submerging a football field’s worth of Louisiana land every hour, creating and expanding ponds and lakes such as the one onto which Carpenter had piloted his 24-foot vessel.

Suddenly, another boat pulled up beside Carpenter’s. “You’re trespassing,” the other driver declared, before chasing him and his clients down the bayou. The sheriff’s office later threatened to arrest Carpenter if he ever returned to the pond. There was just one problem: Under Louisiana state law, any waterways that are accessible by boat are supposed to be public property, argued Carpenter—even what was previously unnavigable swampland.

Carpenter sued the sheriff, as well as Castex Energy Inc., which owns the property around the pond, for interfering with his business. A district court decided against him in March, noting that an earlier ruling found that the territory was unnavigable swampland when the state sold it into private ownership in the 1800s. Carpenter is appealing that ruling.

[oyarde]

Sounds like he is going to lose . He must be charging too much for charter fishing if he has money to waste on lawyers . So not only is he likely to lose , now everyone knows he charges too much .

[angelatc]

Sounds like he is going to lose . He must be charging too much for charter fishing if he has money to waste on lawyers . So not only is he likely to lose , now everyone knows he charges too much .

I do like the way you think.

In Lousiana, he will probably lose. If that was Michigan, he'd probably win.

[pcosmar]

If that was Michigan, he'd probably win.

In Michigan it will cost a 60k fight with the state to install a $15k wind generator..

In Michigan they will spend $100 to keep someone from making $1.

Dusted my heels.

[angelatc]

In Michigan it will cost a 60k fight with the state to install a $15k wind generator..

In Michigan they will spend $100 to keep someone from making $1.

Dusted my heels.

they're very diligent about keeping all water public was my whole point.

[Brian4Liberty]

This isn't a climate change debate article, but it does present an interesting discussion. If you once owned land that is now underwater can someone be trespassing in a boat?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...climate-change

Sounds to me like a maintenance issue. Put up some levies before your land goes so far under water.

[specsaregood]

In Michigan it will cost a 60k fight with the state to install a $15k wind generator..
In Michigan they will spend $100 to keep someone from making $1.
Dusted my heels.

In NJ, they use taxpayer money to install wind turbines on the wrong side of a building rooftop, then spend more taxpayer money to add motors to them and turn them with powerline electricity since the wind is blocked from their install point -- all as an example of how good green energy is.

As to those interested in the LA coastline being lost, then you might consider checking out this documentary if you see it coming to your area, or when finally goes online.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2877296/

Rodents of Unusual Size (2017)
Hard headed Louisiana fisherman Thomas Gonzales doesn't know what will hit him next. After decades of hurricanes and oil spills he faces a new threat - hordes of monstrous 20 pound swamp rats. Known as 'nutria', these invasive South American rodents breed faster than the roving squads of hunters can control them. And with their orange teeth and voracious appetite they are eating up the coastal wetlands that protects Thomas and his town of Delacroix Island from hurricanes. But the people who have lived here for generations are not the type of folks who will give up without a fight. Thomas and a pack of lively bounty hunters are hellbent on saving Louisiana before it dissolves beneath their feet. It is man vs. rodent. May the best mammal win.

[pcosmar]

In NJ, they use taxpayer money to install wind turbines on the wrong side of a building rooftop, then spend more taxpayer money to add motors to them and turn them with powerline electricity since the wind is blocked from their install point -- all as an example of how good green energy is.

As to those interested in the LA coastline being lost, then you might consider checking out this documentary if you see it coming to your area, or when finally goes online.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2877296/

And a Whole county in Oregon gets paid dividends every year ,, from the wind Farms..

I wanted one for my own farm and ran into the roadblock. What I posted was the result...
I did find one installer who would do Zoning and permitting fight,, as a cost of installation... but is is a serious court battle every time.

I was in a high wind area and it would have been a benefit at $15K.. But not at $100k.


and that is just one thing.

[specsaregood]

And a Whole county in Oregon gets paid dividends every year ,, from the wind Farms..

I wanted one for my own farm and ran into the roadblock. What I posted was the result...
I did find one installer who would do Zoning and permitting fight,, as a cost of installation... but is is a serious court battle every time.
I was in a high wind area and it would have been a benefit at $15K.. But not at $100k.
and that is just one thing.

yeah, I wanted one when we lived on a carib island with an average windspeed of 20kph. But the power company on the island would disconnect you if you dared install wind or solar power.