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Thread: Trump Formally Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Ya, I forgot that reporting on civilian casualties (or not..) is George Soros' job.
    That's $#@!ing weak, is that all you got?
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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Hillary had nothing to do with it. You are starting with a false assumption that the US created ISIS. That is Russian propaganda.
    Directly? No. Indirectly? Most definitely. Here's how it works. U.S. allies like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan fund the "really bad" rebels like Al Qaeda and Daesh (real name for ISIS).

    https://medium.com/insurge-intellige...e-51a9e999c437
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...y-and-al-qaeda

    The U.S. funds the "moderate" rebels like the Free Syrian Army.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33997408

    The "moderate" rebels and the straight up terrorists end up working together against a common enemy.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ction/2075323/
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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    That's $#@!ing weak, is that all you got?
    You haven't seen the white hats re-arranging bodies for different scenes and faking $#@!? You think George Soros ever tried to make Obama look bad?

    You think that George Soros' group reported all of the civilian casualties that were caused by Obama and the US, not to mention all of the deaths caused by the weapons that he gave to the rebels?

    And now we see Soros over-reporting and faking civilian casualties since Trump is in charge, and that doesn't make you think something is going on that you don't seem to be considering?
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  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    You haven't seen the white hats re-arranging bodies for different scenes and faking $#@!? You think George Soros ever tried to make Obama look bad?

    You think that George Soros' group reported all of the civilian casualties that were caused by Obama and the US, not to mention all of the deaths caused by the weapons that he gave to the rebels?

    And now we see Soros over-reporting and faking civilian casualties since Trump is in charge, and that doesn't make you think something is going on that you don't seem to be considering?
    more military spending and more sales of weapons to middle eastern countries has to equal less death and chaos in the middle east right? The fake news says the Korean war is over- but we are going to keep 25k troops there. This is fake news, probably propaganda to turn down the war nerves.

  7. #35
    Trump deserves the Nobel Peace prize:

    * Peace in Korea

    * Avoided a planned war with Russia

    * Is not issuing war propaganda against Iran, Syria, or the Taliban, which sets the stage to get out of there soon, too.

    * The war propaganda is coming from the mass media.
    Knowledge is Liberty!


  8. #36
    I sincerely hope he wins.
    Partisan politics, misleading or emotional bill titles, and 4D chess theories are manifestations of the same lie—that the text of the Constitution, the text of legislation, and plain facts do not matter; what matters is what you want to believe. From this comes hypocrisy. And where hypocrisy thrives, virtue recedes. Without virtue, liberty dies. - Justin Amash, March 2018

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by undergroundrr View Post
    I sincerely hope he wins.
    Arms races lead to peace- Look what the atomic bomb did for Hiroshima and Nagasaki- and Look at all the peace we have had for all of these years, we have been at peace my entire life because of the trillions of dollars we spend on military I am sure the anti matter-fusion reactions, and portable nuclear reactors and turbines will peace the hell out of us. I wonder what 20+ trillion in Pentagon spending could buy, surely it couldn't of all been used to wage black budget wars to police the world.

  10. #38
    I often wonder whether we'd be better off if America just flat lost a big old war.

    Germany's doing great.
    Vietnam's doing great.
    Japan's doing great.

    Yeah, the war sucked for them at the time, but I mean look at those guys now.
    Partisan politics, misleading or emotional bill titles, and 4D chess theories are manifestations of the same lie—that the text of the Constitution, the text of legislation, and plain facts do not matter; what matters is what you want to believe. From this comes hypocrisy. And where hypocrisy thrives, virtue recedes. Without virtue, liberty dies. - Justin Amash, March 2018

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by undergroundrr View Post
    I often wonder whether we'd be better off if America just flat lost a big old war.

    Germany's doing great.
    Vietnam's doing great.
    Japan's doing great.

    Yeah, the war sucked for them at the time, but I mean look at those guys now.
    Germany is in terrible shape, Vietnam won their war and Japan is in terrible shape.
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  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by undergroundrr View Post
    I often wonder whether we'd be better off if America just flat lost a big old war.

    Germany's doing great.
    Vietnam's doing great.
    Japan's doing great.

    Yeah, the war sucked for them at the time, but I mean look at those guys now.
    who we send to die in this war to lose? the poor? Should we let prisoners go serve their sentence fighting to die? Should we send the people who voted for the candidates who weren't for term limits to really drain the swamp?



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    who we send to die in this war to lose? the poor? Should we let prisoners go serve their sentence fighting to die? Should we send the people who voted for the candidates who weren't for term limits to really drain the swamp?
    Naw, they would come here and bomb us into the Stone Age, a la Dresden, Nagasaki.
    Partisan politics, misleading or emotional bill titles, and 4D chess theories are manifestations of the same lie—that the text of the Constitution, the text of legislation, and plain facts do not matter; what matters is what you want to believe. From this comes hypocrisy. And where hypocrisy thrives, virtue recedes. Without virtue, liberty dies. - Justin Amash, March 2018

  15. #42
    No peace prize until peace has actually been achieved... pretty simple really.

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  16. #43
    Hey...if Obama can win it for starting two proxy wars and bombing kids, then why not....
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    On bringing the troops home
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever.

    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.

    On fighting corruption:
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
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  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    No peace prize until peace has actually been achieved... pretty simple really.
    Peace is impertinent in the awarding of the Nobel Piece(s of children) Prize.
    Partisan politics, misleading or emotional bill titles, and 4D chess theories are manifestations of the same lie—that the text of the Constitution, the text of legislation, and plain facts do not matter; what matters is what you want to believe. From this comes hypocrisy. And where hypocrisy thrives, virtue recedes. Without virtue, liberty dies. - Justin Amash, March 2018

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Germany is in terrible shape, Vietnam won their war and Japan is in terrible shape.
    What do you mean Germany is like 25 years ahead of every other country in rockets- Japan has a booming population and Vietnam has the most liberty in the world. We all know who really wins the wars and thats the people collecting interest.

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by openfire View Post
    Cite one war Trump has started.
    First US ground combat operations in Yemen.
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    Pinochet is the model
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  20. #47

    Donald of Arabia

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    First US ground combat operations in Yemen.
    The Art of the Deal, arms sales?

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
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  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    First US ground combat operations in Yemen.
    Defending their government from terrorists, correct?

    As opposed to starting a 'war' with 'Yemen'
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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Defending their government from terrorists, correct?

    As opposed to starting a 'war' with 'Yemen'
    If Trump is selling arms to SA (and he is) and offering training, intelligence, and technical support (and he is) and knows those bombs are part of a campaign to wage war on another country (and he knows) then he is waging war with that country.
    Last edited by pao; 05-04-2018 at 03:06 PM.

  24. #50
    United Nations Secretary General Antonio Guterres has accepted South Korean President Moon Jae-in's request to participate in verifying the closure of North Korea's main nuclear test site, and turning the demilitarized zone into a peace zone. Spokesman Kim Eui-kyeom told reporters Tuesday the South Korean president held a 30 minute phone call with the U.N. secretary general that day, during which the two agreed to work together in fulfilling the two Koreas' Panmunjom Declaration.

    More at: https://www.upi.com/UN-chief-agrees-...2631525160950/
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  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Germany is in terrible shape, Vietnam won their war and Japan is in terrible shape.
    Germany ranks 15th in standard of living. Japan ranks 14th. This is quite the opposite of "in terrible shape".

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Defending their government from terrorists, correct?

    As opposed to starting a 'war' with 'Yemen'
    It's involving the US in a new war, no matter what you think of the parties involved. A war against Iran via their proxies.
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    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by RJ Liberty View Post
    Germany ranks 15th in standard of living. Japan ranks 14th. This is quite the opposite of "in terrible shape".
    SS gets all the news about the world that he needs from /pol/ and The_Donald. He knows that things are terrible in Germany because the internet told him so.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    SS gets all the news about the world that he needs from /pol/ and The_Donald. He knows that things are terrible in Germany because the internet told him so.
    I know.

    I visited Germany in 2001, and again in 2015, and was impressed both times by the extremely high standard of living there. The idea that Germany or Japan is "in terrible shape" is just ridiculous.

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by RJ Liberty View Post
    Germany ranks 15th in standard of living. Japan ranks 14th. This is quite the opposite of "in terrible shape".
    Their politics and culture are all but dead and I question any ranking that puts Japan's economy very high.
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  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by RJ Liberty View Post
    I know.

    I visited Germany in 2001, and again in 2015, and was impressed both times by the extremely high standard of living there. The idea that Germany or Japan is "in terrible shape" is just ridiculous.
    But something something white culture.
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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    But something something white culture.
    Bwahah! He's been reading too much Breitbart...

    I have a half-dozen native German friends, and they'd be quite surprised to learn their culture and politics are "dead". In hundreds of hours of discussions with them, I've never heard them lament about their now-dead culture.

    SS has been duped by right-wing propaganda. After all, the vast majority of people residing in Germany are German. I think after the lessons of WWII most Germans now understand that blaming a small percentage (7%) of minorities for the ills of the country is... a bad idea.

  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by RJ Liberty View Post
    I know.

    I visited Germany in 2001, and again in 2015, and was impressed both times by the extremely high standard of living there. The idea that Germany or Japan is "in terrible shape" is just ridiculous.

    I have lived in both countries. Their standard of living is high compared to most of the world. But it still a fraction of what we enjoy in America.
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  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by RJ Liberty View Post
    Bwahah! He's been reading too much Breitbart...

    I have a half-dozen native German friends, and they'd be quite surprised to learn their culture and politics are "dead". In hundreds of hours of discussions with them, I've never heard them lament about their now-dead culture.

    SS has been duped by right-wing propaganda. After all, the vast majority of people residing in Germany are German. I think after the lessons of WWII most Germans now understand that blaming a small percentage (7%) of minorities for the ills of the country is... a bad idea.
    Of course those suffering from the mental disease don't think they are ill, that seems to include you as well.
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  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Defending their government from terrorists, correct?

    As opposed to starting a 'war' with 'Yemen'
    You need to quit while you're behind.
    "The Patriarch"

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