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    Exclamation ‘Real Indian’ Challenging Warren Sues City for Demanding He Remove ‘Fake Indian’ Sign

    LOL.

    I know he has no accent, but I can't help but hear his voice in a combination of Raj Koothrappali and Apu Nahasapeemapetilon


    ‘Real Indian’ Challenging Elizabeth Warren for U.S. Senate in MA Sues City for Demanding He Remove ‘Fake Indian’ Signs

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...-indian-signs/



    Shiva-Ayyadurai, a candidate for U.S. Senate in Massachusetts who describes himself as a “real Indian,” is suing the city of Cambridge for demanding he remove his signs that say his challenger, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), is a “fake Indian.

    by KATHERINE RODRIGUEZ 24 Apr 2018

    A candidate for U.S. Senate in Massachusetts who describes himself as a “real Indian” is suing the city of Cambridge for demanding he remove his signs that say his challenger, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), is a “fake Indian.”

    Shiva Ayyadurai, who is running for the Senate as an independent, filed a federal lawsuit Sunday accusing the city of Cambridge of violating his First Amendment rights under the Constitution for demanding he remove his signs attacking Warren for her unfounded claims of Native American ancestry, the Washington Times reported.

    Ayyadurai’s campaign bus, which has been parked for more than a month in front of an office building he owns, displays signs depicting the progressive Massachusetts senator in an Indian headdress next to a picture of himself with his campaign slogan: “Only a REAL INDIAN Can Defeat the Fake Indian.”

    But this month, Cambridge building inspector Branden Vigneault sent Ayyadurai’s campaign a notice that said he lacked proper permitting, threatening a $300 per day fine and legal penalties if the campaign does not remove the signs.


    Ayyadurai’s campaign argues the building code does not apply to his images because they are posted on a bus and not a brick-and-mortar structure.

    “We will not remove the slogan from our bus,” Ayyadurai told the Times. “We will defend the First Amendment, and we will fight this egregious attack on the First Amendment, at any cost.”

    Ayyadurai has made it a hallmark of his campaign to challenge Warren’s claims of Native American ancestry, which no documentation has proven.

    As proof of her heritage, Warren pointed to a “family newsletter” from 2006, uncovered by an amateur genealogist. It stated that her third great-grandmother was a Cherokee Indian.

    Warren’s campaign also claimed that the Massachusetts senator is Native American because her cousin Candy Rowsey edited a cookbook called Pow Wow Chow. A Boston talk radio show host found in 2012 that Warren may have plagiarized two recipes that she submitted to the cookbook.

    Ayyadurai, meanwhile, is using the lack of documented evidence of Warren’s heritage to his advantage.

    He pulled a campaign stunt in July 2017 where he sent Warren a 23&Me DNA ancestry test through Amazon, which she refused. Ayyadurai then posted a receipt on Twitter of his refunded purchase and wrote that he was “deeply saddened” the progressive Massachusetts senator refused his gift.
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    Not exactly apropos to anything, but the politically correct Puritans and cultural Marxists have killed Apu.

    $#@!ing Zombie Simpsons...the show that once skewered conventional wisdom on all sides and mocked rigid conformity, spearheaded by the "extreme" libertarian lead writer and long gone, John Schwartzwelder, now crimps and folds like a cheap Nehru jacket, by being rigidly conformist and conventional.

    The Simpsons are dead...



    Hank Azaria Is Willing to 'Step Aside' From Voicing Apu on The Simpsons Following Controversy

    http://time.com/5253884/hank-azaria-the-simpsons-apu/

    By CASEY QUACKENBUSH Updated: April 25, 2018 7:33 AM ET

    Hank Azaria told Stephen Colbert on The Late Show Tuesday that he would be willing to “step aside” from voicing one of his characters following recent criticism.

    Azaria voices Indian shopkeeper Apu Nahasapeemapetilon, who has been a character on the Fox television series since 1990. Controversy has brewed around the role since the release of a documentary last year called The Problem with Apu. Between the mannerisms and exaggerated accent, the documentary’s writer Hari Kondabolu said the character embodies racial stereotypes.

    The Simpsons showrunners were largely silent about the criticism until one of the main characters appeared to make a passive reference to it in an episode that aired earlier this month, Variety reports. In the episode, ‘No Good Read Goes Unpunished,’ Lisa said, “something that started decades ago and was applauded and inoffensive is now politically incorrect.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Not exactly apropos to anything, but the politically correct Puritans and cultural Marxists have killed Apu.

    $#@!ing Zombie Simpsons...the show that once skewered conventional wisdom on all sides and mocked rigid conformity, spearheaded by the "extreme" libertarian lead writer and long gone, John Schwartzwelder, now crimps and folds like a cheap Nehru jacket, by being rigidly conformist and conventional.

    The Simpsons are dead...
    Political & all other incorrectness is what they were all about. Well, I guess it was inevitable. They ran a good run tho.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    Political & all other incorrectness is what they were all about. Well, I guess it was inevitable. They ran a good run tho.


    @2:00 LOL - so right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Not ex

    Hank Azaria Is Willing to 'Step Aside' From Voicing Apu on The Simpsons Following Controversy

    http://time.com/5253884/hank-azaria-the-simpsons-apu/

    By CASEY QUACKENBUSH Updated: April 25, 2018 7:33 AM ET

    Hank Azaria told Stephen Colbert on The Late Show Tuesday that he would be willing to “step aside” from voicing one of his characters following recent criticism.
    . That's a shame. For the most part actors and actresses are vastly overrated. Hank is one of the few I consider underrated. He's probably one of the best character actors out there. He does a wide range of accents and plays a wide roll of character s to the extent that he is totally unrecognizable from one movie to the next. I didn't realize, but am not surprised that he was the voice of Apu.
    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by brushfire View Post
    @2:00 LOL - so right.
    Excellent episode.

    Much Apu about Nothing

    Also, @ 3:20 - Billy and the Cloneasaurus.

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    I looked into Ayyadurai yesterday... he is what passes for a conservative in Taxachussetts.
    Very first point on his issues page is how climate change is real, there are islands of garbage in the ocean, etc... he has the balls later to call himself an engineer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I know he has no accent, but I can't help but hear his voice in a combination of Raj Koothrappali and Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
    Here's a fun fact for people who don't work with Indians.
    The common language in India is... English. There are at least 20 other languages spoken throughout India, and the one that they all know and can get around with, is English.
    The accents vary pretty wildly. I've worked with people who sound more or less exactly like Apu, and I've worked with people who have a pretty standard British accent.

    The other thing I'd say about Indians is you can't really stereotype them, except for one thing I've noticed... in general, they tend to be much more unassuming than Americans. Americans do things all the time that you don't notice until you work with non-Americans a lot... like cutting people off in mid-sentence to tell them something that you think they need to know at that moment. It kind of drives me crazy because I expect that behavior from my US colleagues, but the Indian guys will wait until the conversation is over to bring up something that was germane two minutes ago.
    The ones that have lived in the US do pick up on the fact that that's how we work, though, and we're not just being pushy.

    So that's the one thing I notice about
    Ayyadurai... if he's pulling stunts like this, he probably is pretty acclimated to the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Warren’s campaign also claimed that the Massachusetts senator is Native American because her cousin Candy Rowsey edited a cookbook called Pow Wow Chow. A Boston talk radio show host found in 2012 that Warren may have plagiarized two recipes that she submitted to the cookbook.
    So.......how is "pow wow chow" not racist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Warren’s campaign also claimed that the Massachusetts senator is Native American because her cousin Candy Rowsey edited a cookbook called Pow Wow Chow. A Boston talk radio show host found in 2012 that Warren may have plagiarized two recipes that she submitted to the cookbook.

    Evidently Fauxcahontas, Elizabeth Warren diminished any authenticity this recipe book had as she plagerized her ‘contribution’ from chef Pierre Franey published in an 1979 edition of the New York Times. Mrs. Warren’s 1984 recipe ‘contribution’ for Cold Omelets with Crab Meat contains all 4 of the ingredients listed in his published recipe in the exact same portion. More significantly, her instructions are virtually a word for word copy of Chef Franey’s instructions from the 1979 article including specifying the use of a 7” Teflon pan.’


    https://www.amazon.com/Pow-Wow-Chow-...dp/9996688445/
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    He is an ally. He's not a perfect libertarian but there's a night and day difference compared to Warren.




    EDIT: He's speaking live on a radio program now.

    Last edited by tommyrp12; 04-25-2018 at 02:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    So.......how is "pow wow chow" not racist?

    Ask our resident Injun, @oyarde.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    So.......how is "pow wow chow" not racist?
    Warren is a progressive you silly man.

    Everybody knows progressives cannot be racist or bigoted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    I looked into Ayyadurai yesterday... he is what passes for a conservative in Taxachussetts.
    Very first point on his issues page is how climate change is real, there are islands of garbage in the ocean, etc... he has the balls later to call himself an engineer.



    Here's a fun fact for people who don't work with Indians.
    The common language in India is... English. There are at least 20 other languages spoken throughout India, and the one that they all know and can get around with, is English.
    The accents vary pretty wildly. I've worked with people who sound more or less exactly like Apu, and I've worked with people who have a pretty standard British accent.

    The other thing I'd say about Indians is you can't really stereotype them, except for one thing I've noticed... in general, they tend to be much more unassuming than Americans. Americans do things all the time that you don't notice until you work with non-Americans a lot... like cutting people off in mid-sentence to tell them something that you think they need to know at that moment. It kind of drives me crazy because I expect that behavior from my US colleagues, but the Indian guys will wait until the conversation is over to bring up something that was germane two minutes ago.
    The ones that have lived in the US do pick up on the fact that that's how we work, though, and we're not just being pushy.

    So that's the one thing I notice about
    Ayyadurai... if he's pulling stunts like this, he probably is pretty acclimated to the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Ask our resident Injun, @oyarde.
    I guess it would depend , I have not regularly attended since high school but I assume they might serve food at a modern pow wow which is basically a dance gathering these days . In this instance , yes , very racist .We do not eat quiche with crab as described in the gay warren recipe .

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I guess it would depend , I have not regularly attended since high school but I assume they might serve food at a modern pow wow which is basically a dance gathering these days . In this instance , yes , very racist .We do not eat quiche with crab as described in the gay warren recipe .
    What do you eat quiche with?
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    ........

    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to donnay again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyrp12 View Post
    ........
    Covered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    What do you eat quiche with?
    French toast and French Scalps .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyrp12 View Post
    He is an ally. He's not a perfect libertarian but there's a night and day difference compared to Warren.


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    He will lose by 25. The Republicans Massachusetts votes for are Romney, Weld, and Scott Brown. This guy seems more Michelle Bachmann.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    French toast and French Scalps .
    Mmmmmm, french scallops...




    oh wait..
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Mmmmmm, french scallops...




    oh wait..
    Sometimes I go by a local Chinese place and get scallops wrapped it bacon with a Tsing Tao .
    Do something Danke

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    She will most likely beat him, but it seems like he will be more than happy to dig up the dirt on her before the 2020 Presidential Election. It might be an interesting campaign.
    ...

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    The Great Oyarde supports the Real Indian against the city of cambridge and warren .
    Do something Danke



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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    He will lose by 25. The Republicans Massachusetts votes for are Romney, Weld, and Scott Brown. This guy seems more Michelle Bachmann.
    It won't be easy for sure. People seem to like him though and he's getting his name out there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyrp12 View Post
    It won't be easy for sure. People seem to like him though and he's getting his name out there.

    Great video!

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    People Love to Pretend They’re Offended

    http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2...heyre-offended

    APR 28, 2018




    The Simpsons creator Matt Groening seems to see nothing wrong with the show’s depiction of Apu, the Indian Kwik-E-Mart proprietor who speaks with a heavy accent and was the focus of comedian Hari Kondabolu’s documentary on the issue, The Problem with Apu. In an interview with USA Today, Groening states plainly that “people love to pretend they’re offended.”

    Hank Azaria, who voices the world famous character of Apu, finally responded to the controversy last December, saying that “anybody that was hurt and offended by any character or vocal performance is really upsetting, that it was offensive or hurtful to anybody.”

    While Kondabolu himself didn’t find these remarks substantial enough, and The Simpsons casually dismissed any validity of the issue in a recent episode, Azaria appeared on the Late Show with Stephen Colbert not too long back and said that his “eyes have been opened.” He added, “I’m perfectly willing and happy to step aside or help transition it into something new,” which Kondabolu—and others—thanked and appreciated him for.

    Groening, on the other hand, is on the other end of the spectrum in regards to racial sensitivities and media portrayals of people of color. He seems to conflate any criticism of a character’s behavior or appearance with specific criticism—using the fact that audiences were angry with Bart’s mischievous personality but ultimately accepted it to defend the widely-criticized portrayal of Apu.

    “Bart said he was ‘an underachiever and proud of it, man,’” said Groening. “Simpsons t-shirts were banned in grade schools. I felt that the controversy at the beginning of the show was, again, people pretending to be offended by Bart’s very mild sassiness. I knew it would blow over.” Of course, the overly sensitive reaction to a cartoon character that dislikes school and likes to use a slingshot was, let’s say, completely unnecessary. The same cannot entirely be said about his stance on the ever-brewing Apu controversy, as there are far more nuanced complexities to the matter.

    When asked if he considered Apu’s portrayal an insensitive stereotype, he staunchly disagreed. “Not really,” he said. “I’m proud of what we do on the show. And I think it’s a time in our culture where people love to pretend they’re offended.”

  33. #29
    Bump



    Mass. city rescinds order to remove anti-Warren ‘fake Indian’ campaign signs

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...warren-fake-i/

    That campaign sign dubbing Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren a “fake Indian” no longer faces an existential threat from the city of Cambridge, Massachusetts.
    Cambridge officials have withdrawn their April order calling for Independent Senate candidate Shiva Ayyadurai to remove banners on his campaign bus depicting Ms. Warren in a feathered headdress with the slogan, “Only a REAL INDIAN can defeat the fake Indian.”
    As a result, Mr. Ayyadurai filed a motion Thursday to drop his lawsuit accusing Cambridge of violating his free-speech rights, declaring it a “historic victory to protect your right to free speech.”

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    This real indian is quite a savage.
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