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    Exclamation Bernie Sanders to announce proposal promising jobs to all Americans

    Sen. Sanders to announce proposal promising jobs to all Americans

    http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3...-all-americans

    BY JOHN BOWDEN - 04/24/18 08:49 AM EDT

    Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is set to announce a federal jobs proposal that would guarantee a job with at least a $15-per-hour wage and health benefits to every adult American “who wants or needs one,” The Washington Post reports.

    The senator is still in the early stages of crafting the plan, according to the Post, which would provide a job or required training for any American.

    Sanders's office has yet to release the details of the plan's funding, but previous large-scale projects proposed by the Vermont progressive have involved ending tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans and large corporations.

    The Vermont senator joins two other possible 2020 contenders, Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) and Cory Booker (D-N.J.), who have also expressed support for similar proposals in recent weeks.

    “The goal is to eliminate working poverty and involuntary unemployment altogether,” Darrick Hamilton, an economist at The New School, told the Post.

    “This is an opportunity for something transformative, beyond the tinkering we've been doing for the last 40 years, where all the productivity gains have gone to the elite of society.”

    Critics of federal jobs proposals say that government intervention to raise wages could lead to private businesses cutting costs in other areas, including hiring fewer employees. Sanders is a longtime advocate of "Fight for 15," the national movement aimed at raising the minimum wage to $15 per hour.

    The proposal would have trouble gaining enough Democratic support to get real traction and conservatives have long said a jobs promise is unsustainable and unaffordable, citing costs, the effects on the private sector and the possibility of inflation.

    “It completely undercuts a lot of industries and companies,” Brian Riedl of the conservative-leaning Manhattan Institute told the Post. “There will be pressure to introduce a higher wage or certain benefits that the private sector doesn't offer.”

    Sanders has not announced a 2020 presidential run but has left his options open. He was notably the country's most popular active politician in a Harvard-Harris poll last year.

    The Vermont senator will be 79 years old on Election Day in 2020, four years after losing to Hillary Clinton in the 2016 Democratic primary.
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    Sanders has not announced a 2020 presidential run but has left his options open. He was notably the country's most popular active politician in a Harvard-Harris poll last year.
    Freedom is NOT popular.

    Soviet-esque government slave jobs are.

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    Only $15/hour!?!?

    It should be $50, Mr. Sanders!
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    15 aint $#@!
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    Because Dudley Dough will work this time, if guns are used to scale it up to as big as it needs to be.

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    And how many of those jobs will be spying on your fellow Americans?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And how many of those jobs will be spying on your fellow Americans?
    Well, they Got Thousands Standing Around to grope and gate rape us, so I reckon that will be a growth industry.

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    I don't see how this could possibly fail.
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    Would this mean, welfare would end?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And when they come out with UBI they will require recipients to join the junior G-Men reserve force.

    It is all part of the plan.
    ...
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    Let's get the tariff crew in here; they'll be all for this!

    @kahless @dannno
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Let's get the tariff crew in here; they'll be all for this!
    That makes no sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Only $15/hour!?!?

    It should be $50, Mr. Sanders!
    50 will be the cost of each of each 15 job.

    $#@! Sanders

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That makes no sense.
    No sense that I didn't @ you? You were already in the thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Can this guy just fade into obscurity already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    No sense that I didn't @ you? You were already in the thread.
    Tariffs designed to protect against economic warfare by foreign countries have nothing to do with communism at home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Let's get the tariff crew in here; they'll be all for this!

    @kahless @dannno
    How is this going to lead to lower taxes?
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    Thanks Vermont .

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    Ha Ha ha,,,

    Bernies followers don't want jobs.. just paychecks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Ha Ha ha,,,

    Bernies followers don't want jobs.. just paychecks.
    And Communist leaders don't want pets.. just minions.
    That's why after the revolution all of the sincere communists are executed.
    UBI will come with a requirement to spy for the people's police or to join the gendarmerie as a part-time enforcer.
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    It's like Atlas Shrugged playing out right before our eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    How is this going to lead to lower taxes?
    Obviously you haven't been paying attention. You need to look at the bigger picture. It's a small price to pay for increased productivity, and so long as we sell the products of the collective's labor abroad, it means that it's free and other countries are paying for it. Overall revenue to the collective will increase.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Obviously you haven't been paying attention. You need to look at the bigger picture. It's a small price to pay for increased productivity, and so long as we sell the products of the collective's labor abroad, it means that it's free and other countries are paying for it. Overall revenue to the collective will increase.
    That is nonsense and has nothing to do with defensive tariffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Freedom is NOT popular.

    Soviet-esque government slave jobs are.
    That's because everyone is truly living in The Matrix and have no idea that the "American Dream" is a life of slavery.
    There is no spoon.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That is nonsense and has nothing to do with defensive tariffs.
    It was sarcasm, Dude.
    There is no spoon.

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    Meanwhile we are currently setting record low unemployment levels. His message would do better to attack the super rich robber barons using slave labor like Jeff Bezos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    It was sarcasm, Dude.
    I know, but it still missed it's mark, the implications intended do not apply to defensive tariffs.
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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Let's get the tariff crew in here; they'll be all for this!
    I do not support tariff's within our borders, never have. In a trade war against a foreign power that bars some sectors of our imports, institutes high tariffs on our exports to them and is basically waging economic warfare on our people is different case altogether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Only $15/hour!?!?

    It should be $50, Mr. Sanders!
    Even the TSA pays better than what Bernie is proposing. SAD.
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