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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    I think the people who should have seen a problem did not see one.
    It is just a very different perspective.

    I think the people did see a problem and leveraged it.

    What if the Firemen were not putting out fires,,, but starting them? (F451)

    What if mental health professionals are creating these monsters on purpose?? By Design..

    I am sure that they are.. and have been.
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  3. #32
    The shrinks are seldom named.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    It is just a very different perspective.

    I think the people did see a problem and leveraged it.
    I can't automatically assume bad will on the part of anyone. We don't know what the shooter's on because as far as I know they have not found him yet.

    We do know he has a history of delusions, at least.
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  6. #34
    And, right on time in the "let no tragedy go to waste" political vien, a Congress critter calls for restrictions on "widespread civilian access to military-grade assault weapons."
    Yup, I'm just gonna pop on over to Academy sports and buy some of those "military grade assault weapons" tomorrow. Dumbass.

    A U.S. congressman is calling for restricting access to some assault weapons in the wake of a shooting at a Waffle House restaurant in Tennessee on Sunday that left four people dead. Rep. Jim Cooper issued a statement Sunday, calling for restricting "widespread civilian access to military-grade assault weapons."
    https://www.cbsnews.com/.../waffle-house-shooting.../

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    I can't automatically assume bad will on the part of anyone.
    Seems you can believe he did it without "bad will" then. he shot them in good will then.

    Why,,? is the question I ask. There was a reason..
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post

    We do know he has a history of delusions, at least.
    I don't know that at all..

    His handlers had him at the White House last time.
    Last edited by pcosmar; 04-22-2018 at 04:26 PM.
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  9. #37
    He had a thing the year before about Taylor Swift. He claimed she was harassing him. Sounded very John Hinckley to me.
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  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Seems you can believe he did it without "bad will" then. he shot them in good will then.

    Why,,? is the question I ask. There was a reason..
    I wasn't disputing what you said about him being on drugs. The possibility certainly exists. Nobody is really talking about what kind of care he was getting, if any, and they have not caught him to do a blood test.

    I was responding to what you say about this being some grand conspiracy. I can't assume that. What I know is that this happened within about 3 miles of my house. The shooter was seen in his own truck at the restaurant, and he went in and shot people. His ID was left in the vehicle and matched both him and the veh registration. We also know local authorities have not found him and they assume he has other weapons with him because it is known he owned them and they were not found in his apartment.
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  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    He had a thing the year before about Taylor Swift. He claimed she was harassing him. Sounded very John Hinckley to me.
    Bush family Friend,, CIA Methods..

    history repeats. even when nobody is looking.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Bush family Friend,, CIA Methods..

    history repeats. even when nobody is looking.
    I have seen mentally ill people, and even just control freaks do very horrible things up close and personal. That doesn't always mean the government is behind it.
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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Why was he naked in the first place?
    To emphasize just how Cuh-Razy he was

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    I have seen mentally ill people, and even just control freaks do very horrible things up close and personal. That doesn't always mean the government is behind it.
    So have I.. and I have worked with some.

    but outward violent attacks are rare,,, it is usually self inflicted.
    Control Freaks are another issue.. They are usually Hired in Government.

    This individual has history,,
    And that history and who twisted his mind should be investigated..

    an investigation beyond the type of weapon used.
    Last edited by pcosmar; 04-22-2018 at 04:49 PM.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  16. #43
    Great. We know how those investigations go.

    I will say that MNPD are very good at investigations. We are not normally linked to violent crime but there were two big cases that hit very close to home for us. We are confident in our police department from an investigatory standpoint, but not always happy with the system in general.

    As in the Stoneman Douglas High School shooting, this will be a case where the FBI and Secret Service are proven to have dropped the ball, but local authorities will be left to mop up the mess.
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  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Great. We know how those investigations go.

    I will say that MNPD are very good at investigations. We are not normally linked to violent crime but there were two big cases that hit very close to home for us. We are confident in our police department from an investigatory standpoint, but not always happy with the system in general.

    As in the Stoneman Douglas High School shooting, this will be a case where the FBI and Secret Service are proven to have dropped the ball, but local authorities will be left to mop up the mess.
    And yet ,, you reported that the FBI are protecting the Father..

    who gave the kid the guns back after the last staged event.

    What care was he under to be released the first time?,, Who? and what drugs were given.

    What other types of coercion were used?

    They are deliberately pushing these incidents to push an agenda. But until that can be proven,,,, you are playing into the Police State Game.

    At Stoneman Douglas High School shooting,, the kid that did the shooting was groomed,, just as the lead kid Hogg.
    Likely by the same people.

    The shooter was hearing voices that told him to do it.
    https://targetedindividualscanada.co...oice-to-skull/

    This tech is KNOWN and in use.
    and like SSRIs..it is used in conjunction with... Silence.
    Last edited by pcosmar; 04-22-2018 at 06:34 PM.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  18. #45
    Now this is interesting..

    http://www.covertbookreport.com/rece...ll-technology/
    Recent Shootings And “Voice To Skull” Technology

    From about a year ago,,

    And no Police agency is yet making a connection. (Because that would be admission)
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

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    It's all about Freedom

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    And yet ,, you reported that the FBI are protecting the Father..

    who gave the kid the guns back after the last staged event.

    What care was he under to be released the first time?,, Who? and what drugs were given.

    What other types of coercion were used?

    They are deliberately pushing these incidents to push an agenda. But until that can be proven,,,, you are playing into the Police State Game.

    At Stoneman Douglas High School shooting,, the kid that did the shooting was groomed,, just as the lead kid Hogg.
    Likely by the same people.

    The shooter was hearing voices that told him to do it.
    https://targetedindividualscanada.co...oice-to-skull/

    This tech is KNOWN and in use.
    and like SSRIs..it is used in conjunction with... Silence.
    I am not protecting anyone. Stop accusing me and putting words in my mouth. This happened quite close to my home and I have a vested interest in seeing a killer brought to justice.

    You don't know what this man is on, and that's a fact. They haven't caught him yet.

    This is what I hate about this board. People make assumptions when the facts just aren't there.
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    “I’m a doctor. That’s a baby.”~~~Dr. Manny Sethi

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post

    This is what I hate about this board. People make assumptions when the facts just aren't there.

    You don't hate me, do you?
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  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    You don't hate me, do you?
    Not even a little bit. You and oyarde are just charming.

    What I don't like is that some posters allow their anger at the system color their reason. It calls their credibility into question. The killer is not in custody. There have been no blood tests. Nobody knows anything except his dad was an idiot to give him back his guns.

    And of course our pretend mayor is calling for gun control. Like that is the answer.
    Last edited by euphemia; 04-22-2018 at 07:24 PM.
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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    I am not protecting anyone. Stop accusing me and putting words in my mouth. This happened quite close to my home and I have a vested interest in seeing a killer brought to justice.

    You don't know what this man is on, and that's a fact. They haven't caught him yet.

    This is what I hate about this board. People make assumptions when the facts just aren't there.
    When you don't have facts and can expect to never be given them pattern recognition can help you to identify danger and respond to it.
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  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    I am not protecting anyone. Stop accusing me and putting words in my mouth. This happened quite close to my home and I have a vested interest in seeing a killer brought to justice.

    You don't know what this man is on, and that's a fact. They haven't caught him yet.

    This is what I hate about this board. People make assumptions when the facts just aren't there.

    I'm not accusing you of anything....

    You said you are nearby... So it is in your interest to know what is happening near you..

    And the only assumption I have made is that government will hide the truth,, rather than report it.
    And that any investigation will be covered up.
    No mention will be made of SSRI drugs...
    No mention of any grooming (despite 2 high profile incidents)
    Any mention of "hearing Voices" will be brushed off.

    And there will be no talking about the dozens of FBI Created failed Terror events,, where they groomed some halfwit into doing something stupid only to heroically stop it.

    I expect the guy to be found dead,, because they never want him talking.

    But I was not accusing you of anything.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  25. #51
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...zen/540543002/

    Waffle House suspect Travis Reinking deemed himself a 'sovereign citizen,' part of anti-government group

    The suspected gunman on the run after riddling a Tennessee Waffle House with bullets dubbed himself a "sovereign citizen," before being arrested in July 2017 outside the White House.

    Travis Reinking, 29, used that term — which the FBI has also used to describe a group of anti-government extremists — during a clash last year with the Secret Service, according to a police report obtained by USA TODAY.

    Reinking told agents he needed to see President Trump and defined himself as sovereign citizen who had a right to inspect the grounds, according to an arrest report by the Metropolitan Police Department in D.C. He was arrested on an unlawful entry charge after refusing to leave the area.

    The FBI has said sovereign citizens "believe that even though they physically reside in this country, they are separate or 'sovereign' from the United States."

    The agency has also defined sovereign citizens as "anti-government extremists who claim the federal government is operating outside its jurisdiction and they are therefore not bound by government authority—including the courts, taxing entities, motor vehicle departments, and even law enforcement."

    It's unknown if Reinking's 2017 sovereign citizen self-designation was in line with the FBI's definition or if it played any role in the Antioch, TN Waffle House attack, which left four dead.

    A motive has not been released and investigators are continuing to probe Reinking's background, which includes several past incidents with law enforcement.

    In June 2017, Reinking threatened someone with an AR-15 then drove to a public pool and exposed himself to others, said the USA TODAY Network's Tennessean, citing police records. He has also threatened to kill himself and said he thought singer Taylor Swift was stalking him, according to the Associated Press.

    Many sovereign citizens are harmless or commit petty or "quirky" crimes but some have been known to become violent, the FBI says.

    The bureau says usually, these individuals believe the law doesn't apply to them and don't have to pay taxes or follow other norms. They believe governments are illegal and gravitate to conspiracy theories.

    "If someone challenges their ideology, the behavior of these sovereign-citizen extremists quickly can escalate to violence," the FBI said in 2010, noting the movement is likely to continue to grow because it is "fueled by the Internet."

    There weren't any reports of violence in the 2017 White House incident. Authorities say Reinking took off his tie, balled it into a fist, continued walking toward the White House and told agents they could arrest him if needed.

    "Do what you need to do. Arrest me if you have too,"
    he said, according to the report.
    More at link.

  26. #52
    He’s still on the loose. Now it’s Monday and students are back at school. There are several schools near that Waffle House all on lockdown.

    They could search for him all around Percy Priest lake and never find him. It has been raining since yesterday and it makes it hard for the dogs to track him.
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  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    And of course our pretend mayor is calling for gun control. Like that is the answer.
    Nashville has not had a gun run of mayors lately.
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  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Great. We know how those investigations go.

    I will say that MNPD are very good at investigations. We are not normally linked to violent crime but there were two big cases that hit very close to home for us. We are confident in our police department from an investigatory standpoint, but not always happy with the system in general.

    As in the Stoneman Douglas High School shooting, this will be a case where the FBI and Secret Service are proven to have dropped the ball, but local authorities will be left to mop up the mess.
    I will say this about the MNPD. There are some good cops on there (I personally know a couple) and there are some that are dirty as hell. True story I was once hired to defend someone on federal drug charges. His defense? He was initially busted by a Metro police officer. The police officer said he wanted this dealer to work for him so that he could "catch bigger fish" and let him keep $10,000. I was trying to cut a deal with the federal prosecutor and brought up the possibility of a dirty cop thinking the federal prosecutor would want to bust him. In negotiations, one of the DEA agents investigating this said "Oh yea. I talked to that officer. He said he let your client keep that money because it was Christmas." Thankfully his mother decided she wanted a more experience lawyer, hired someone else and I got off the case. I was a guppy swimming with sharks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    He’s still on the loose. Now it’s Monday and students are back at school. There are several schools near that Waffle House all on lockdown.

    They could search for him all around Percy Priest lake and never find him. It has been raining since yesterday and it makes it hard for the dogs to track him.
    I hope they find him. I wonder if he's still running around naked?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  30. #56
    So, who wants to start a bounty hunting gig with me?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    So, who wants to start a bounty hunting gig with me?
    I bet HB would volunteer for this one.
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  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post


    Waffle House suspect Travis Reinking deemed himself a 'sovereign citizen,' part of anti-government group

    "...part of anti-government group." What group is that? And what kind of grammar is that? Do they mean he is part of an anti-government group? If so, then which one? Where is the word "an" or "the?" Was this written by somebody speaking Japanese, a language that often skips such words?
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  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Dad's gonna be in twouble!


    ]
    Not if dad is connected.
    and the fact that he has not been Perp Walked,, leads in that direction.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    So, who wants to start a bounty hunting gig with me?
    I would not hunt victims.

    Live capture for discovery and deprogramming,, I might be up for.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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