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    Coffee to come with cancer warning in California

    So confusing, up till few months ago coffee was good for health:


    Coffee requires cancer warning, California judge rules

    by Associated Press / Mar.30.2018

    LOS ANGELES — Scientists haven't rendered a verdict on whether coffee is good or bad for you but a California judge has. He says coffee sellers in the state should have to post cancer warnings.
    The culprit is a chemical produced in the bean roasting process that is a known carcinogen and has been at the heart of an eight-year legal struggle between a tiny nonprofit group and Big Coffee.
    The Council for Education and Research on Toxics wanted the coffee industry to remove acrylamide from its processing — like potato chip makers did when it sued them years ago — or disclose the danger in ominous warning signs or labels. The industry, led by Starbucks Corp., said the level of the chemical in coffee isn't harmful and any risks are outweighed by benefits.
    Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Elihu Berle said Wednesday that the coffee makers hadn't presented the proper grounds at trial to prevail.

    "While plaintiff offered evidence that consumption of coffee increases the risk of harm to the fetus, to infants, to children and to adults, defendants' medical and epidemiology experts testified that they had no opinion on causation," Berle wrote in his proposed ruling. "Defendants failed to satisfy their burden of proving ... that consumption of coffee confers a benefit to human health."
    The suit was brought against Starbucks and 90 companies under a controversial law passed by California voters in 1986 that has been credited with culling cancer-causing chemicals from myriad products and also criticized for leading to quick settlement shakedowns.
    The Safe Drinking Water and Toxic Enforcement Act, better known as Proposition 65, requires warning labels for about 900 chemicals known to cause cancer or birth defects. It allows private citizens, advocacy groups and attorneys to sue on behalf of the state and collect a portion of civil penalties for failure to provide warnings.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...arning-n861401



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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    So confusing, up till few months ago coffee was good for health:

    The industry, led by Starbucks Corp., said the level of the chemical in coffee isn't harmful and any risks are outweighed by benefits.
    Probably a mistake to claim benefits, should have just said that coffee is not harmful. Getting out of bed is risky too. Still it seems back-asswards to make them prove benefits to avoid a warning label.

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    California has health warnings on just about everything... i wouldn't lose any sleep over the coffee thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    Probably a mistake to claim benefits, should have just said that coffee is not harmful. Getting out of bed is risky too. Still it seems back-asswards to make them prove benefits to avoid a warning label.
    Apparently it helps prevent liver cancer, in particular, and other cancers due to it's anti-oxidant properties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    California has health warnings on just about everything... i wouldn't lose any sleep over the coffee thing.
    Start losing sleep when parents go to jail for letting their kids drink coffee, eat sugared cereal, or anything else that is deemed "ungood" and requires that you be over 21 to do anything.
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    Acrylamide is in a lot of foods (especially fried foods). So by saying it is in coffee is to confuse the issue and have people dismiss it. People should do their own research.


    https://www.cleanlabelproject.org/co...nd-acrylamide/
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    Here is a some good info:


    Does Coffee Cause Cancer?

    by Tim Thompson on Thursday, September 28th, 2017 | No Comments

    Newsweek reports that California is going to add warning labels to coffee out of fear that coffee causes cancer. What is this all about? First what does Newsweek say?

    A lawsuit filed by the organization in 2010 resumed earlier this week, the Associated Press reports. Its chief complaint is that retailers such as Starbucks, Whole Foods and Trader Joe’s violated the California Safe Drinking Water and Toxic Enforcement Act, also known as Proposition 65, according to court papers.

    The plaintiff argues that these companies knowingly violated the health code, which states, “No person in the course of doing business shall knowingly and intentionally expose any individual to a chemical known to the state to cause cancer or reproductive toxicity without first giving clear and reasonable warning to such individual.”

    The lawsuit hinges on whether or not the chemical acrylamide which is produced when coffee is roasted causes cancer in coffee drinkers. But it gets a little more complicated because of the law in California which maintains a list of chemicals that have caused cancer when given, sometimes in huge amounts, to laboratory animals. And if a chemical is on the list it should not be given to humans. The problem here is that when something is given in 10,000 fold higher amounts to a lab rat and causes cancer there needs to be some human evidence that the amounts that humans are exposed to really cause cancer. In addition the half-life of acrylamide in the human body is about two hours. That means every two hours after ingestion your body reduces the amount in your system by half. It does not hang around very long.

    What Is Acrylamide and How Does It Get Into Coffee?

    The American Cancer Society web site discusses acrylamide.

    Acrylamide is a chemical used mainly in certain industrial processes, such as in making paper, dyes, and plastics, and in treating drinking water and wastewater. There are small amounts in some consumer products, such as caulk, food packaging, and some adhesives. Acrylamide is also found in cigarette smoke.

    Acrylamide can also form in some starchy foods during high-temperature cooking, such as frying, roasting, and baking. Acrylamide forms from sugars and an amino acid that are naturally in food; it does not come from food packaging or the environment.

    Foods that may contain acrylamide include potato products, grain products, or coffee. French fries and potato chips have the highest levels. When coffee is roasted acrylamide is formed and higher temperatures and longer roasting produce more of this chemical. The site discusses how scientists determine if a food substance causes cancer by first testing it on lab animals and then looking at human populations to see if folks who consume that food or drink have higher levels of cancer.

    The only types of cancer where there may be a problem are cancers of the kidney, endometrium and ovary and those results are mixed. For example in 2011 we published a report of reduced endometrial cancer in coffee drinkers.

    Researchers have noted a reduced endometrial cancer incidence in coffee drinkers. Data from the Harvard School of Public Health Nurses’ Health Study indicates that high coffee consumption is related to a twenty-five percent lower incidence of cancer of the lining of the uterus, endometrial cancer. Endometrial cancer is the most common type of cancer of the uterus.

    What to Do?

    The EPA regulates the acceptable level of acrylamide in water from industrial exposure. It may turn out that some government agency will regulate the acceptable level of acrylamide in coffee. In the meantime please realize that the Council for Education and Research on Toxics appears to be a front for the law firm pursuing the suit in California. A somewhat cynical web page put up by another lawyer is instructive. It appears that the only purpose of the “Council” is to lend legitimacy to the law suit. If the plaintiffs win they will want “$2,500 per exposed person each day” as damages. That is a lot of money for alleged damages from a drink that has been shown to prolong life, reduce the risk of diabetes, Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, various forms of cancer, etc.
    https://buyorganiccoffee.org/2058/do...-cause-cancer/
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    And here comes another 'study'.
    What should come first, healthy heart or fear of cancer..



    Coffee Scientists Find an Optimal Number of Cups for a Healthy Heart

    "We've disproved what doctors have told your grandma."


    By Emma Betuel on June 21, 2018


    Despite the fact that having too many morning cold brews makes you feel like your heart will explode, a study from PLOS Biology released Thursday shows that there’s an optimum amount of coffee you can drink to maintain a healthy heart. “We’ve disproved what doctors have told your grandma: Don’t drink coffee if you have a heart problem,” study co-authors Joachim Altschmied, Ph.D. and Judith Haendeler, Ph.D., tell Inverse.

    Altschmied and Haendeler, both University of Dusseldorf biologists, explain that there is extensive previous research demonstrating the health effects of caffeine at a “physiologically relevant amount” — namely, four cups. “It’s known that four cups or more of coffee lowers the risk for heart attack, stroke,, and diabetes,” says Altschmied. Now, they know the reason why this happens: Caffeine can “push” a protein called p27 into the mitochondria, or energy powerhouses, of heart cells. This, in turn, can help those heart cells function more efficiently. In their experiments, Altschmied and Haendeler found this process had a time-machine effect: The mitochondria in caffeinated old rats performed as efficiently as mitochondria in the healthy younger rats.

    https://www.inverse.com/article/4625...ealth-caffeine



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