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    Democratic Party files suit alleging conspiracy by Trump campaign, Russia, WikiLeaks

    The Democratic Party on Friday filed a multimillion-dollar federal lawsuit against Trump campaign officials, the Russian government and WikiLeaks alleging a widespread conspiracy to tilt the 2016 election in Donald Trump's favor.
    Calling it an “all-out assault on our democracy,” the Democratic National Committee filed the civil suit in federal district court in Manhattan. The suit amounts to another legal broadside related to the 2016 race, on top of the special counsel's ongoing Russia probe and the FBI raid on Trump's personal attorney last week.
    "The conspiracy constituted an act of previously unimaginable treachery: the campaign of the presidential nominee of a major party in league with a hostile foreign power to bolster its own chance to win the Presidency," the suit states.
    It claims that Trump campaign officials worked in tandem with the Russian government and its military spy agency to bring down Hillary Clinton by hacking into the computer networks of the DNC and spreading stolen material.
    “During the 2016 presidential campaign, Russia launched an all-out assault on our democracy, and it found a willing and active partner in Donald Trump’s campaign,” said DNC Chairman Tom Perez in a statement, calling the alleged collusion “an act of unprecedented treachery.”

    More at: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...-election.html



    Discovery for the defense should be interesting.
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    Grasping at straws now.
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    Lol, probably not their best decision...
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Hail Mary pass

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    the suit gives no allusion to physical evidence or depositions, but supports its claims with links to "reputable" news stories including Fox News! Ask a liberal you know if Fox News is credible, then say they are referenced in this suit, so is the suit credible?
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 04/20/16
    There won't be a contested convention
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
    The shooting of Gabrielle Gifford was blamed on putting a crosshair on a political map. I wonder what event we'll see justified with pictures like this.

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    I hope they spend millions of dollars on lawyers working on this.
    *******

    I didn't start out thinking that anti-vax people were fools or impervious to reason, it's from my experience here that I now think that.
    - AmyPi 2014 (RIP)

    Anti-vaxxers, responsible for a 30 percent uptick in totally preventable diseases in the world, have blood on their hands. They shouldn't be considered civilized members of society. If they refuse to listen to a century of scientific studies confirming time and time again that vaccination is an unquestionable good for humanity, then it's time for us to start treating anti-vaxxers as what they are: dangerous and worthy of shame and condemnation. If we can't convince anti-vaxxers to change their minds, we must attach enough social stigma to the delusion that agnostics cease to join them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    I hope they spend millions of dollars on lawyers working on this.
    They should definitely work on retainer..
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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    If you know any dems let them know the money they donate is being used to sue the russians .

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    Blue Ebb Tide.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    If you know any dems let them know the money they donate is being used to sue the russians .
    @Zippyjuan, Listen to Uncle Oyarde.
    *******

    I didn't start out thinking that anti-vax people were fools or impervious to reason, it's from my experience here that I now think that.
    - AmyPi 2014 (RIP)

    Anti-vaxxers, responsible for a 30 percent uptick in totally preventable diseases in the world, have blood on their hands. They shouldn't be considered civilized members of society. If they refuse to listen to a century of scientific studies confirming time and time again that vaccination is an unquestionable good for humanity, then it's time for us to start treating anti-vaxxers as what they are: dangerous and worthy of shame and condemnation. If we can't convince anti-vaxxers to change their minds, we must attach enough social stigma to the delusion that agnostics cease to join them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Blue Ebb Tide.

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    Pakistani mystery man


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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    The Democrats are suing @WikiLeaks and @JulianAssange for revealing how the DNC rigged the Democratic primaries. Help us counter-sue. We've never lost a publishing case and discovery is going to be amazing fun: https://www.iamwikileaks.org/donate/ More options: https://shop.wikileaks.org/donate

    3:13 PM - 20 Apr 2018

    https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/987454233862705152
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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    There they go again, throwing around that word, "democracy" like it's something we should have.

    Nowhere in the Constitution is that word even mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    There they go again, throwing around that word, "democracy" like it's something we should have.

    Nowhere in the Constitution is that word even mentioned.
    This is a battle call for the ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is a battle call for the ignorant.
    Heck, they even have the so called 'conservative news' using that stupid word.

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    Senor Trump is right... this suit opens 'discovery'. hahaha

    my guess?
    This ill advised 'suit' was/is introduced 'solely' for the 2018 mid-term as a 'talking point'... a campaign strategy.
    It will be slo-footed at every opportunity in the courts (by the Dems)...
    and hammered 'nightly' by the MSMs.

    It will be 'dropped' after the elections.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 04-20-2018 at 07:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Senor Trump is right... this suit opens 'discovery'. hahaha

    my guess?
    This ill advised 'suit' was/is introduced 'solely' for the 2018 mid-term as a 'talking point'... a campaign strategy.
    It will be slo-footed at every opportunity in the courts (by the Dems)...
    and hammered 'nightly' by the MSMs.

    It will be 'dropped' after the elections.
    Will the judge be another close personal friend of George Soros
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    It will go to a Deep State judge and another fresh set of scandalous behavior by political actors betraying the public trust will ensue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Senor Trump is right... this suit opens 'discovery'. hahaha

    my guess?
    This ill advised 'suit' was/is introduced 'solely' for the 2018 mid-term as a 'talking point'... a campaign strategy.
    It will be slo-footed at every opportunity in the courts (by the Dems)...
    and hammered 'nightly' by the MSMs.

    It will be 'dropped' after the elections.
    apparently it's not a novel thought


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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Democratic Party files suit alleging conspiracy by Trump campaign, Russia, WikiLeaks

    The Democratic Party on Friday filed a multimillion-dollar federal lawsuit against Trump campaign officials, the Russian government and WikiLeaks alleging a widespread conspiracy to tilt the 2016 election in Donald Trump's favor.
    This is controversial at many levels and crosses so many lines. Going after elders/nation states is one thing but they have even sued son and widey respected son-in-law of a sitting POTUS right in the middle of his mideast peace mission:









    Fox news in probably in hurry mised their names. Even if Dems are looking to create a contigency venue to keep this affair in headlines if Mueller is fired on Giuliani advise, bringing children and in laws into this will create too much of a media distraction for POTUS trying to serve people the best way he knows how to.



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    I feel like the lawsuit should be heard by a 3rd party, outside of our legal/political system, and I think it would be hilarious if the Russians were asked to mediate.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
    T.S. Elliot's The Hollow Men

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    I hope they spend millions of dollars on lawyers working on this.
    They'll have GoFundMe for legal fees. Pocket change to the big donors, but they would also get a bunch of poor, ignorant people.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
    They are what they hate.” - B4L


    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Senor Trump is right... this suit opens 'discovery'. hahaha

    my guess?
    This ill advised 'suit' was/is introduced 'solely' for the 2018 mid-term as a 'talking point'... a campaign strategy.
    It will be slo-footed at every opportunity in the courts (by the Dems)...
    and hammered 'nightly' by the MSMs.

    It will be 'dropped' after the elections.
    Probably.

    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Will the judge be another close personal friend of George Soros
    Quote Originally Posted by thoughtomator View Post
    It will go to a Deep State judge and another fresh set of scandalous behavior by political actors betraying the public trust will ensue.
    But they may have a chance with the corrupt legal system.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
    They are what they hate.” - B4L


    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    If you know any dems let them know the money they donate is being used to sue the russians .
    No, let them donate and waste it away in the hopes the party goes bankrupt.
    Where is John Galt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    I hope they spend millions of dollars on lawyers working on this.
    They're probably betting on it causing more media talk on the issue / party / election in general than they could buy with the same amount of money.
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
    H. L. Mencken


    I don't hate you. You're just some person on the internet who believes in things that aren't real.

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    Democrats sue Trumps, Kushner and Russia over election hacking
    Apr 20, 2018


    Defense has also been beefed up with widely celeberated legal eagle Giuliani.

    "Nothing wrong with surrounding yourself with the best.
    To give credit where due, new addition also seems well connected and seems more competent than Michael Cohen:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDY4tSibYpo
    "

    A year and half after the elections, this suit could be political posturing ahead of midterms to inflict political damage. Timing is bit peculiar, the suit is filed just days after Trump's personal lawyer was raided by FBI. Is it possibe DNC and Stormy Daniel's lawyer (allegedly ex Dem operative) are colluding/tag-teaming here and DNC opportunsitcally trying to capitalize on new evidence that may have been collected in other cases?

    Stormy Daniels lawyer predicts Trump deposition, says they’ve found his ‘Achilles heel’

    By Luis Sanchez - 04/21/18

    Stormy Daniels’s lawyers told “Real Time” host Bill Maher on Friday that he has found President Trump’s “Achilles' heel” and predicts he can get Trump and Michael Cohen to appear for a deposition.

    “I think we are going to get an opportunity to depose Michael Cohen and the president within the next 60 to 90 days and ... I truly believe this is the Achilles' heel of the president,” Avenatti said about the president and his personal lawyer. “He has trusted a moron with his innermost secrets."

    “The problem is he has surrounded himself in his adult life with people that are incompetent and the chickens are going to come home to roost,” Avenatti added.

    Maher said that even if Trump gets a deposition, he might not show up to court and trigger a constitutional crisis.
    Avenatti predicted the president would show up to court, but argued that it might not matter since he thinks Cohen will end up telling the court everything he knows about the president.
    “Michael Cohen knows where almost all the bodies are buried and I think he is going to sing like a canary,” Avenatti said. “I know he is going to fold.”
    “When you have a fixer, you need two things, at least. You need a guy who is tough and you need a guy that is smart,” Avenatti said. “This guy is neither tough nor smart.”
    http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...eyve-found-his

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