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  1. #511
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    It's called PR- when a thing like this is pushed into everyone's face, so that it takes over the MSM, a smart business will have to "do" something to ebb the tide.
    Well Yale should expel the trouble maker.

    https://nowthisnews.com/videos/polit...t-for-sleeping

    Racism is flat stupid,, but regardless,, racism exists.. everywhere.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Starbucks drops Jewish group from bias training - POLITICO

    Apr 30, 2018 - Left-wing activists had attacked Starbucks over the ADL's involvement, citing the ADL's support for Israel and its arms-length relationship to the ...

    As happened in case of ADL, liberal boycott groups probably would next demand Starbucks to cut ties with Trump Tower and Ivanka Trump/Kushner also as shocking report of them being blessed by racist Israeli rabbi who compared black people to 'monkeys' gets published in US media.





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  5. #513
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    She was sleeping in the Common Room of her Dorm Building..

    Cops were called because a Black person was there. and that she obviously did not belong..

    except she did.

    and when looking for the article,,it seems this was the second time a Racist has Called the Cops..
    Just to start chit.

    There are two problems,,, Racists and the Cops who respond to them.


    it has nothing to do with "homeless". (Never mind that more and more are being created)

    That is incorrect, you have this all completely wrong. She would have called the cops on anybody who she felt didn't belong there, regardless of race. There are rules saying what the common area is to be used for, and sleeping is NOT one of those uses. Most dorms have rules against sleeping in the common area. If you ask someone who lives in a dorm to sleep in their common area for a few weeks, somebody will notice, they will get kicked out, regardless of race.

    The other time she called the cops was because her friends were there who didn't live in the dorm and they were acting in a way that made her feel uncomfortable or unsafe.
    Last edited by dannno; 05-14-2018 at 04:50 PM.
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  6. #514
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Well Yale should expel the trouble maker.

    https://nowthisnews.com/videos/polit...t-for-sleeping

    Racism is flat stupid,, but regardless,, racism exists.. everywhere.
    So does stupidity to an even larger extent. Why isn't anybody railing against that?

  7. #515
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    racism exists... everywhere.
    So I'm sure you are happy to see it finally getting more prominent coverage in the media, in the form of a ~semi-weekly story to stir up racial outrage and division.

    With our universal and pervasive hatred and racism getting non-stop front-page coverage, at last our nation can come to grips with this problem, and perhaps finally find a solution.

  8. #516
    https://www.nmu.edu/housing/hallcommonarea

    Residence Hall Lobbies



    For the most part, lobbies, the most public of residence hall common areas, serve a public reception function, as general lounge and recreation space, and occasionally a place for scheduled activities, including those intended for raising funds for residence hall students and their guests. The behavior of students, their guests, and visitors must reflect those primary functions and, therefore, inappropriate behavior – e.g., disorderly conduct, littering, sleeping, cutting hair, watching personal TV’s, etc. – will not be permitted.


    https://reslife.ucla.edu/regulations

    Sleeping or loitering in lounges, common or other public areas is not permitted.



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  9. #517
    Quote Originally Posted by H_H View Post
    With our universal and pervasive hatred and racism getting non-stop front-page coverage, at last our nation can come to grips with this problem, and perhaps finally find a solution.
    Nope..

    The Divisions ARE being leveraged. And that is deliberate and calculated...

    There are folks (and have been),, that are trying to eliminate the divisions. or to minimize the impact..

    And there are Police. Who are just a problem.. from inception.

    I have seen it personally too many times.. I walked through a near Riot in Prison over it.
    God Blessed me to see peace there.. and to make peace there.

    Your world outside is becoming my world inside.. and I don't like seeing it.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  10. #518
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post

    Residence Hall Lobbies[/h]
    Residence hall lobbies are completely irrelevant.. as it was not the lobby.

    And you can drop the dumb crap..

    It was deliberate harassment and the offender has been called out on it.
    So you can stop pretending to didn't happen or it was something else..
    https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2018/...n-common-room/
    “Universities are not utopias, and people of color experience racism on our campus as they do elsewhere in our country. This fact angers and disappoints me,” Salovey wrote. “Each of us has the power to fight against prejudice and fear. I hope you will join me in doing so.”
    this is not the first time Braasch has called the police to HGS.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  11. #519
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Residence hall lobbies are completely irrelevant.. as it was not the lobby.
    It was a common area, they use words like lobby sometimes, but it's the same thing. A study area with couches, sometimes there is a tv or games.


    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    It was deliberate harassment and the offender has been called out on it.
    So you can stop pretending to didn't happen or it was something else..
    https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2018/...n-common-room/


    this is not the first time Braasch has called the police to HGS.
    LOL, ya, she got called out on it just like Starbucks manager got called out for performing her job duties as instructed... Yale is not being sensible, Starbucks is not being sensible, they are protecting themselves from the irrational leftists who want to come crashing down on them.
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  12. #520
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It was a common area, they use words like lobby sometimes, but it's the same thing. A study area with couches, sometimes there is a tv or games.




    LOL, ya, she got called out on it just like Starbucks manager got called out for performing her job duties as instructed... Yale is not being sensible, Starbucks is not being sensible, they are protecting themselves from the irrational leftists who want to come crashing down on them.
    Dude,,the Racist bitch that called Police was a Leftist,, batppoop crazy feminist .. it is a friggin' university..a leftist indoctrination center..

    not the first time Braasch has called the police
    it's a habit..
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  14. #521
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    https://www.nmu.edu/housing/hallcommonarea

    Residence Hall Lobbies


    [FONT="] [/FONT]
    For the most part, lobbies, the most public of residence hall common areas, serve a public reception function, as general lounge and recreation space, and occasionally a place for scheduled activities, including those intended for raising funds for residence hall students and their guests. The behavior of students, their guests, and visitors must reflect those primary functions and, therefore, inappropriate behavior – e.g., disorderly conduct, littering, sleeping, cutting hair, watching personal TV’s, etc. – will not be permitted.


    https://reslife.ucla.edu/regulations

    Sleeping or loitering in lounges, common or other public areas is not permitted.



    LMAO! So now your comeback is "Well it's against the rules at a different university?" Seriously...that....that's your argument? So if someone is arrested for going to the Bunny Ranch in Nevada the arrest is okay because prostitution is illegal in Alabama?

    Yale != North Michigan University.

    I can't believe you would even try to float such a retarded argument. Then again.....
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  15. #522
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Well Yale should expel the trouble maker.

    https://nowthisnews.com/videos/polit...t-for-sleeping

    Racism is flat stupid,, but regardless,, racism exists.. everywhere.
    Oh, I agree- and I've never understood it.
    There is no spoon.

  16. #523

    Starbucks Says Drug Use, Sleeping Unacceptable as It Clarifies Guest Policy

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/starbuc...icy-1526918854

    May 21, 2018

    Starbucks Corp. SBUX 0.31% tried to dig itself out of controversy Monday by attempting to clarify a policy toward nonpaying guests that generated an onslaught of weekend criticism.

    The Seattle-based retailer on Saturday had said it would allow all guests in its U.S. company-owned stores to use its cafes, including its restrooms, whether or not they make a purchase. That announcement, which attracted some support, also drew complaints that cafes wouldn’t have enough seats for paying customers and would turn into homeless shelters and drug havens.

    On Monday, Starbucks revealed more about the policy, telling The Wall Street Journal that employees now have detailed instructions on what to do if someone is behaving in a disruptive manner, such as smoking, using drugs or alcohol, using restrooms improperly or sleeping.

    At issue, in essence, is whether Starbucks views itself as a business that caters to customers, or a quasi-public place generally welcome to all. The uproar, which follows the arrest last month of two black men who wanted to use a Starbucks bathroom in Philadelphia, demonstrates the unusual spot that the nation’s biggest coffee chain holds in American culture.

    While many other restaurants and retailers also must manage the issue of lingering customers and nonpaying guests who come in to use restrooms, Starbucks has promoted itself as providing a “third place” between home and work where people can freely exchange ideas. It essentially pioneered the idea that is now generating controversy.

    Other restaurants and cafes have followed suit in recent years. McDonald’s Corp. and Panera Bread now offer free Wi-Fi and encourage customers to linger. Panera didn’t respond to a request for comment, and McDonald’s—which is almost entirely franchised—said it lets its franchisees determine how to best serve their customers.

    “The whole Starbucks situation has opened up a can of worms. In most cases restaurants leave it up to the discretion of the individual restaurant and most are too busy to enforce a policy,” said Joe Pawlak, managing principal at restaurant consulting firm Technomic Inc.

    Starbucks’s piecemeal messaging on the issue and the outpouring of commentary that ensued shows the challenges firms can face in an era when every corporate move can be immediately telegraphed and then dissected by the public at large.

    “Often the people with the strongest views on either end of the spectrum will be the loudest online,” said Jeremy Robinson-Leon, president of Group Gordon, a corporate and crisis communications firm.

    Views over the last few days ran the gamut. “It sounds like Starbucks is turning their stores into homeless shelters. Their coffee is strong but their management is weak,” said Ron Raduechel, a 64-year-old retired supply chain executive from Waukesha, Wis., who said he would no longer go to Starbucks.

    “I believe Starbucks is doing what’s right in their hearts whether its outcome sparks negativity or not,” said Johnny Varela, a 31-year-old carpenter in Orlando, Fla. “I think Starbucks is very humanitarian.”

    The dust-up is far from Starbucks’s first. It has driven attention to itself before by using its size to try to enact social change. The company in 2015 tried to foster conversations about race relations by urging baristas to write “Race Together” on customers’ cups, a move from which it backed away following social-media backlash.

    Before the Affordable Care Act was proposed, Starbucks Chairman Howard Schultz decried the lack of affordable health-care for millions of Americans. He caused an uproar among gun-rights proponents when he told U.S. customers that firearms were no longer welcomed in its stores.

    Conveying a message of inclusiveness without alienating paying customers is critical for Starbucks at a time when its cafe business is more important than ever.

    The company this month agreed to sell the rights to market and distribute its packaged coffee in grocery stores to Nestlé SA so it could focus on its coffee shops. Sales at its U.S. cafes have been slowing.

    “Starbucks is making a strategic bet that by defining its own moral code they will continue to attract a core consumer group that will remain loyal, but you max out on that demographic at some point,” said Eric Schiffer, chairman of Reputation Management Consultants.

    Starbucks, he said, had no choice but to take action rather than just apologizing and then letting the news die down. “The whole goal of managing a crisis is regaining credibility and that comes from aligning words with actions,” he said.

    Under the procedures for handling disruptive guests, Starbucks said Monday, managers and baristas should first ask a fellow employee to verify that a certain behavior is disruptive and if it is, respectfully request that the customer stop.

    Other examples of disruptive behavior include talking too loudly, playing loud music and viewing inappropriate content. The company provided employees with examples of when they should call 911, which includes when a customer is using or selling drugs.

    The arrests last month in Philadelphia came after a manager’s decision to call the police after the two men asked to use the bathroom without purchasing anything and allegedly refused to leave when asked.

    Starbucks quickly apologized for the actions of the store manager, who ultimately left the company. When a video of the men’s arrests went viral, people immediately took to social media calling for a boycott of Starbucks.

    A couple of days after the news spread, the boycott threats died down.

    The company announced a few days later that it would close its more-than 8,000 U.S. company-owned stores on May 29 to conduct antibias training for employees. Later, Starbucks said it settled with the two men for an undisclosed amount.

  17. #524
    Sound like time for more memes to re-counter-clarify.

  18. #525
    I love it when the chickens come home to roost! Isn't karma awesome!

  19. #526
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Starbucks drops ADL from bias training amid protests
    I just saw this. Too funny! Obviously Jews did not make the "approved" minority list.

    I wonder how much those groups get paid for the "diversity training"?

  20. #527
    Last edited by angelatc; 05-24-2018 at 08:19 PM.

  21. #528
    Starbucks should close all interior bathrooms to public and have portable toilets managed by a private firm placed outside in the parking lot and put picnic tables outside with a sign inside area reserved for paying customers.



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  23. #529
    The locations in the cities are going to fill up with hobos.

    Starbucks closing 8,000 stores today to give employees classes in rooting out racial bias

    ....

    During Starbucks’ training today, Schultz said, employees will "be sharing life experiences, hearing from others, listening to experts, reflecting on the realities of bias in our society and talking about how all of us create public spaces where everyone feels like they belong -- because they do."

    Employees will also watch a video guiding them through the lesson and partly narrated by Academy Award-winning rapper Common.

    ...
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/starbucks-...ry?id=55501441
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  24. #530
    Starbucks has quietly walked back their "all inclusive" bathroom policy, perhaps after realizing that their employees and customers alike weren't responding well to the prospect of vagrants using their stores as a homeless shelter.

    As part of their new "Third Place Policy" which the company shuttered 8,000 stores to pound into employees heads on Tuesday, Starbucks says "We want our stores to be the third place, a warm and welcoming environment where customers can gather and connect. Any customer is welcome to use Starbucks spaces, including our restrooms, cafes and patios, regardless of whether they make a purchase."
    Ok - so far so good for homeless people looking to catch some free air conditioning this summer or simply drop that massive cabbage dump that's been brewing.
    But wait - what's this? Starbucks' new Third Place Policy also reads:
    When using a Starbucks space, we respectfully request that customers behave in a manner that maintains a warm and welcoming environment by:
    Using spaces as intended
    Being considerate of others
    Communicating with respect
    Acting responsibly
    Uh oh, this isn't looking good for those looking to take a sink-bath while breathing in freshly brewed coffee...
    On occasion, the circumstances of a customer’s disruptive behavior may make it necessary to prohibit that customer from returning to our stores.
    Excuse us?
    In these situations, Starbucks partners should follow “Requesting A Customer Restrictionprocedure for U.S. company-operated stores.
    Starbucks Executive Vice President Rossann Williams gave an example of how an employee should approach a "disruptive" customer using foul language:
    “You are in our store every day, and we love that this is your third place, but from one human to another human, the language that you are using is making other customers uncomfortable. So either you have to change your behavior, and stay and be a part of our third place, or I’m going to have to ask you to leave, and you can come back at a later time, when you feel like you can be a part of our third place. And in fact if you want to go have a seat, I’ll bring you over a cup of water, just to make sure that it’s a great rest of your day."
    Not so inclusive now, are we Starbucks? Sure, the marginally diverse group of well dressed customers pictured below might be able to enjoy using the facilities at Starbucks, but what about the differently housed? What constitutes a "disruption?"

    The new 68-page employee guidebook and over a dozen videos shown during the Tuesday training session included racial bias training, with much of the coffee seller's new ethos focused on teaching employees to be "color brave" - reminding everyone that institutional racism permeates society.

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...ew-color-brave
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  26. #532
    ‘Coffee Cultivation Merely Extends The System Of Colonial Oppression,’ Recite Nation’s 180,000 Radicalized Starbucks Employees After 3-Hour Anti-Bias Training

    SEATTLE—Irrevocably changed after attending a mandatory training session on racial bias, the nation’s Starbucks employees reportedly returned to work Wednesday radicalized and united behind a new credo stating that “coffee cultivation merely extends the system of colonial oppression.” “Welcome to Starbucks, you $#@!ing bourgeois pig,” said barista Alexandra Balvin, delivering the greeting in lockstep with 180,000 Starbucks workers across the nation who were suddenly sporting camouflage-printed aprons, hanging up Che Guevara posters, and writing “Imperialist Swine” or “AmeriKKKan” on customers’ coffee cups. “Can I interest you in one of our Ultra Caramel Frappuccinos? The coffee is all sourced from oppressed bean pickers exploited by the same capitalist forces that allow you to spend on a single beverage what they make during an entire week of grueling physical labor. Don’t feel pressured to buy anything, though. You’re welcome to just sit at a table or use the bathroom to wash the blood of the working class off your hands.” At press time, sources confirmed baristas at approximately 8,000 Starbucks locations were overturning tables and throwing them through plate-glass windows to notify customers that stores would be closing in 15 minutes.



  27. #533
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Your world outside is becoming my world inside.. and I don't like seeing it.
    Becoming?

    It already is...one huge, open air, "free range" prison.

  28. #534
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    ...

    with much of the coffee seller's new ethos focused on teaching employees to be "color brave" - reminding everyone that institutional racism permeates society.

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...ew-color-brave
    I had to look up color brave.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

  29. #535
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Starbucks has quietly walked back their "all inclusive" bathroom policy...corporate feelgood double speak blarg blarg blarg
    Oh that is precious.

    Hoisted by their own petard, they, Starbucks, have no place to go, having painted themselves into a politically correct corner.

    It is delightful watching them thrash around like a melting Terminator.

  30. #536
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    I just saw this. Too funny! Obviously Jews did not make the "approved" minority list.

    I wonder how much those groups get paid for the "diversity training"?
    Ahahahahahah, oh this just keeps getting better.



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    Employees Find Needles, Drug Baggies and Blood All Over the Walls After Starbucks Opens Its Bathrooms to Everyone


    by Cristina Laila May 24, 2018 398 Comments


    You’re gonna love the new Starbucks!


    Starbucks recently enacted its “Third Place Policy” which means employees should consider anyone who enters the establishment a customer regardless whether they make a purchase.


    “We are committed to creating a culture of warmth and belonging where everyone is welcome,” Starbucks said.


    Because customers who pay north of $5.00 for a fancy latte want to have a side of syringes.


    Starbucks enacted this policy after they faced a huge backlash when two black men were arrested at a Philadelphia location.


    This new policy is not only upsetting Starbucks employees, but paying customers as well, who are used to enjoying a pleasant atmosphere.


    A Starbucks employee reportedly found syringes, drug baggies and blood all over the walls in the bathroom.


    GROSS.


    Fox News reported:


    n a Starbucks subreddit, people are voicing concerns that the new policy will lead to stores being filled with homeless people and drug users. One user who claims they work at a Chicago Starbucks wrote that a homeless person using the bathroom got into a fight with a customer and police requested to see the store policy before taking action.


    Someone claiming to be an employee who works at a store in the loop in Chicago said they hate the new policy because the store bathrooms have turned into a hub for drug activity. “We haven’t been allowed to change our bathroom codes since April. So almost all the junkies and homeless people know the code now. About once a week we find needles, drug baggies, blood all over the toilet or walls,” the user wrote.


    The Wall Street Journal reported a Starbucks employee was pricked by a syringe in the bathroom.


    Starbucks openly invited bums and drug addicts into their establishment. What could possibly wrong?


    As if we needed another reason to boycott Starbucks…


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  33. #538
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    I had to look up color brave.


    "Your truths"...So flat earthers need safe spaces?
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  34. #539
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post

    You’re gonna love the new Starbucks!
    That was fast. I figured it would take awhile for Starbucks to get overrun with homeless people.

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