Originally Posted by Madison320
You don’t know much, and that’s a fact. – The Duchess, Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland Chapter 6
There is no spoon.
As I said, I have never called the cops. However, it is good to see you admit that sometimes certain patronage is not desired.
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That was never an issue,, despite me being misread.
Blatant Racism is.
And a lot of folks want to change the issue to property rights....
and pretend that the very obvious racist bias does not exist.
I believe it to be disingenuous.
I find the alt-right and anafta to be an equally disgusting phenomenon. reminiscent of 1930s Germany or Iran in 1953.
I ain't playing that game.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
I know what a catch 22 is. What would have been the downside of not calling the cops?
Preach Pete. I just like you hate racial prejudice, I think those guys were stereotyped and singled out to be kicked out because of the colour of their trousers. And I will add that I would personally boycott any business that conducts business this way but I don't think they should face any govt sanctions or fines.
Just my 2 cents.
Do you think they will get the message, considering conservatives are also boycotting Starbucks for putting their SJW underwear on and presuming that race was involved in the manager's decision?Preach Pete. I just like you hate racial prejudice, I think those guys were stereotyped and singled out to be kicked out because of the colour of their trousers
Just my 2 cents.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
What a moron. The guy says hes all for fairness and then is OK with the fact that they kicked out a potential customer 10 mins after their arrival because they choose to enforce a rule that they rarely enforced.
Also, Starbucks paraphernalia? I guess someone is used to frying their brain cells (or what little is left of it) on drugs. I know when I go to starbucks, I buy their product or merchandise and not their paraphernalia
And yes, I stereotyped that mental retard because he seems to be cool with stereotyping other people
Last edited by juleswin; 04-19-2018 at 02:49 PM.
For whom? At what time? This time? Or the time this incident began to unfold?
I don't think starbucks takes welfare cards, his business won't be missed. Btw, anyone still wearing a Trump T shirt this point in the game is a special kind of stupid. Even Alex Jones has woken up.
Wow! The discernment! That is a great skill that will be in demand by the .gov in the future when classifying thought crimes. Blatant is even more serious.
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I agree
Oh, thank you so much. Chapter 6, you say? Mmm! You don't say! How informative! You are so very literate.
I challenge you to read this book that AZQuotes is quoting for you. There's the challenge of the day! Spoiler Alert: It was written by an Imperialist European Male of the White Persuasion, bigoted against everyone, and hateful against virtually everything you believe. It is hopelessly reactionary for Current Year.
Happy reading!
Oh, and based on your avatar: Your hair wants cutting.
Nice troll, obviously you didn't watch the video and have no genuine interest in the subject.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
They were never customers, never going to be.
What the $#@! are you talking about??And yes, I stereotyped that mental retard because he seems to be cool with stereotyping other people
Also, nice job NOT addressing the actual topic of the video at all. Just like you do with all other videos posted here. I don't even remember him saying the word paraphernalia, yet you go off for two paragraphs on it even though it had nothing to do with the topic of the video.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Seen it before
and it is common enough here,, with the Stormfront folks that attached to Ron.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
oh noes, racists everywhere.
Uh-oh, uh-oh, red alert. The Starbuck Lords in these tapey-tapes do seem to be biased... against the Impolite, and in favor of the Polite.
You aren't implying -- no! you wouldn't! -- that certain races are more disposed to be polite and quiet and others to be impolite and loud*. Are you? Nah, you wouldn't do that. You're an ANTI-racist, after all. But I feel ya. It's hard to be an anti-racist without also simultaneously being a racist. Pretty hard. Totally worth it, but pretty hard. Really hard. Probably impossible.
* (and thus can't be blamed and shouldn't be held to account for their behavior: that would be an unfair, too-high standard)
Last edited by H_H; 04-19-2018 at 03:08 PM.
You just said your sisters owned bars/businesses and had to kick people out for misbehaving.
What if one of the people they kicked out was black, and your sister was falsely accused by someone of kicking them out of the bar for being black, and your sister was subsequently beaten to death for it?
This is why people are comparing this to a thought crime. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MANAGER OF STARBUCKS WAS THINKING. But you pretend to know, then insinuate you want to beat them to death anyway. You don't know what the manager in the video was thinking when she didn't allow the black guy to use the restroom either, you just assumed it was because of his skin color and not his attitude.
Also, you never told me about your experiences cleaning $#@! off the walls of public restrooms, and then happily inviting everyone to come use the bathroom you keep clean.
I agree that if your thought process constantly revolves around race and you are always judging people solely on their race, that is a huge problem. It is a bigger problem in prisons, but really one of the lowest problems on the totem pole in our current society, assuming you are talking about stormfront types. But it still not as big of a problem as the SJWs in this country are creating, and you are taking the side of the SJWs in this case, people who you admit are racist.
Last edited by dannno; 04-19-2018 at 03:13 PM.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
The dumbass guy in the video said paraphernalia not you, did u even listen to the video?. Believe me, I tried to give him a chance but the vibe I got from him from the way he spoke and dressed told me that he had nothing intelligent or worthwhile to say. Nothing, so I stopped listening after about 3 mins.
Well when you say something intelligent maybe I will trust when you say somebody else doesn't say anything intelligent..
The guy laid it out, the manager asked them to buy something or leave, they refused to buy something. The cops came and said they were free to go, but they refused to buy something or leave. They were on private property, it had nothing to do with them being black. It had to do with their attitude, how they were acting, and the fact that they hadn't purchased anything.
Starbucks doesn't mind people in their store who don't buy $#@! if they aren't bothering other people.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Yes, because you're not exactly splaining your position. I just took a guess.
The downside is you'd potentially have non-paying customers replacing paying customers.
Murder, theft, trespassing can be forgiven but thinking bad thoughts gets you the death penalty!
That's how I read it.
The thing is it is not the stormfronters, but rather business owners on the forum such as myself who see thoughtcrime written all over this knee jerk reaction. Would I have called the police in this situation? Most likely not, but in theory, police are there to protect private property. After being asked to leave, the two men were trespassing... Period. Anything after that is thoughtcrime territory.
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Preach Pete. I just like you hate racial prejudice, I think those guys were stereotyped and singled out to be kicked out because of the colour of their trousers
Just my 2 cents.
I agree with you on the important part that there shouldn't be any govt sanctions and your right to boycott. Are you consistent on this? Are you against discrimination laws in general? Should Starbucks be permitted to sell to "whites only"?
I've watched that clip and my thought is that he must not have had to go that badly.
'I really have to pee. Oh wait, gotta make time for a rant on (perceived) racism. Let me turn the camera on first.'
I'm so sick of the "look at me!" generation.
Last edited by nobody's_hero; 04-19-2018 at 04:14 PM.
This is getting silly.T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men
"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato
We Are Running Out of Time - Mini Me
I think that is already part of their business plan, dunno if starbucks is run the same way here in Omaha as it is done in Philadelphia. Anyway, when I was in college, we would go to starbucks to do some school projects when we couldn't all meet in school. Ofc, we were all broke college students and the plan was always to just to use wifi and then go home. But and a big butt, most people ended up buying coffee or some pastry with the cc. Its not easy to resist the smell of starbucks coffee.
And actually, sometime nobody buys anything at all. I think the gamble(not dilemma) is that they must have calculated that not many people will come in and not buy anything. These were 2 people(even if you believe 100% that they weren't going to buy anything) in the restaurant for 10 mins waiting to meeting what I presume is a paying customer, there was no need to kick em out. It is one thing if they've been in the store for hours without buying anything and then you applying this very unknown rule on them.
My worry is that it seems like they acted a bit too quickly and applied this rule to them alone and that really worries me.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
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