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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    the more emotional you get the more you will be taking seriously

    More lulz. Look here, trainee; you are the most emotional one in your group. You are the typical progressive who loathes religion and religious people. Now, you've just exposed your SJW sentiments. Duh. You need to practice being subtle.

    I suggest you be mentored by TheCount. Now, he uses the same technique of trying to marginalize members, but he's more low key about it. Even better is to follow Zipper John. He follows certain people around, but is even more subtle.

    But the absolute best at the craft is PRB. I suggest you read his posts. Practice the technique. Come back when you're more interesting.




    p.s. can someone wheel NCL back to his nursing home he seems to have gotten lose again

    Well, okay; that's not bad. Still a little cliched, and I think you mean nut house.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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  3. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    Simple solution. Have less tables and less seating.
    I am a Starbuck's customer regularly - during the winter at least.
    Free refill, free (fast) wifi, lots of seating - open at 4:30am till 11pm - and I use the hot java + half and half with vanilla or chocolate
    often enough for free food once a month or so.

    They accommodate people whether they are a paying customer ordering and going - or seated while online - or just getting a water.
    People may wander in to just to use the restroom but that is discouraged kinda.

    But it is a business and like every other business I do not think it is usual for non-paying customers to just be able to take a seat
    that a customer might prefer - one can NOT just sit in a McDonald's without buying at least a french fry ?

    Why is this such big news (?) - Starbuck's didn't choose to press the trespassing charge -
    oh, yeah - two POC get picked out as non-paying seated occupants that are trespassing - and were asked to leave - and refused (?)

    It is probably not even the first time these two were trespassing and asked to leave (?)
    Last edited by Jan2017; 04-17-2018 at 01:02 PM.

  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    $#@! Starbucks!

    $#@! the two black men.

    And $#@! the cops!


    LOL, but yeah, I'd probably go with this! + rep!
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    More lulz. Look here, trainee; you are the most emotional one in your group. You are the typical progressive who loathes religion and religious people. Now, you've just exposed your SJW sentiments. Duh. You need to practice being subtle.

    I suggest you be mentored by TheCount. Now, he uses the same technique of trying to marginalize members, but he's more low key about it. Even better is to follow Zipper John. He follows certain people around, but is even more subtle.

    But the absolute best at the craft is PRB. I suggest you read his posts. Practice the technique. Come back when you're more interesting.




    Well, okay; that's not bad. Still a little cliched, and I think you mean nut house.
    You are doing very well! Excellent syntax and word choice. I would like to remind you, however, the topic for discussion today is nonfiction. Nevertheless, one day I'm sure you will become a successful fantasy author!



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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    You are doing very well! Excellent syntax and word choice. I would like to remind you, however, the topic for discussion today is nonfiction. Nevertheless, one day I'm sure you will become a successful fantasy author!
    Yeah, I see I hit right on the money. Heh heh.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




    Disrupt, Deny, Deflate. Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eptive-members

  8. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Police should not exist in a free and civilized society.... Period.

    Police are Enforcers of Control.. "Police" by definition are "to control"..
    It is an authoritarian construct... and necessary for authoritarian society.. But has no place in a Free Society.


    If you want someone off you property then man up an remove them yourself rather that some STATE Bully boys.
    Responsibility,, for your actions,, and the consequences.

    Calling police is a cowardly duck of responsibility.
    Force exists. Get over it.


    Every time I hear that silly anarchist stuff I think of the song Imagine:

    "Imagine no possessions
    I wonder if you can
    No need for greed or hunger
    A brotherhood of man
    Imagine all the people sharing all the world"

  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    Force exists. Get over it.


    Every time I hear that silly anarchist stuff I think of the song Imagine:

    "Imagine no possessions
    I wonder if you can
    No need for greed or hunger
    A brotherhood of man
    Imagine all the people sharing all the world"
    Yup. Welcome to your authoritarian society in which you own NOTHING. How's that working for you?

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yup. This.

    Even if it didn't calling the cops is only going to make the situation worse, even if you "win".

    Starbucks now has a PR $#@!-storm that will cost them millions by the time it dies down.
    I'm sure this action will cost several million....
    Starbucks to close all company-owned stores on the afternoon of May 29 for racial-bias education day

    Starbucks will close 8,000 of the company's U.S.-based locations to train 175,000 employees and address implicit bias, promote inclusion and help prevent discrimination.

    Once the company has completed this training at its company-owned locations it will make the it available to its licensed partners.

    The company is working with the Anti-Defamation League, the NAACP Legal Defense and Education Fund and the Equal Justice Initiative, among others to create the program.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/17/star...ation-day.html

  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I'm sure this action will cost several million....
    Time to hit the streets in ever major metro area and let the homeless know that starbucks will let them sit and $#@! at their shops without purchase.

  12. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I'm sure this action will cost several million....


    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/17/star...ation-day.html
    It's not enough!!! (it never is)
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  13. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Time to hit the streets in ever major metro area and let the homeless know that starbucks will let them sit and $#@! at their shops without purchase.
    Good way to take it to the absurd extreme..

    These were not homeless squatters,, They were meeting at Starbucks for business. They were about 5 minutes early and BLACK.

    a second video has surfaced verifying this FACT..

    Srarbucks is addressing this issue,,, Because it is an issue.. that just bit them in the butt.

    Pretending this was anything other than blatant racism is disingenuous..
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's not enough!!! (it never is)
    They need to serve the customer or go out of business..
    Overpriced trendy business models will not last long abusing customers.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Good way to take it to the absurd extreme..

    These were not homeless squatters,, They were meeting at Starbucks for business. They were about 5 minutes early and BLACK.

    a second video has surfaced verifying this FACT..

    Srarbucks is addressing this issue,,, Because it is an issue.. that just bit them in the butt.

    Pretending this was anything other than blatant racism is disingenuous..
    I guess I just don't pretend to assume what is in the hearts and mind of others. It very well could have nothing to do with race, but you've already made up your mind. My point still stands, homeless are now welcome to camp out at starbucks all day long.

  17. #74
    Jan2017
    Member

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I'm sure this action will cost several million....

    Starbucks to close all company-owned stores on the afternoon of May 29 for racial-bias education day

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/17/star...ation-day.html
    wtf?

    White or black or brown or yellow or rainbow - the color of the trespassers should not matter - but ok . . .

    I think the Starbuck franchises SHOULD have a racial celebration day or sometin' - well. several -
    So, a day for free coffee for whites . . . another day for free coffee for blacks . . . another day for Hispanics,
    then, to be fair a seperate day free coffee for Asians.

    And what the hell - toss in a seperate day for green card holders and illegal immigrants - though the barista may need to see your papers.
    Last edited by Jan2017; 04-17-2018 at 02:29 PM.

  18. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    I guess I just don't pretend to assume what is in the hearts and mind of others. It very well could have nothing to do with race, but you've already made up your mind. My point still stands, homeless are now welcome to camp out at starbucks all day long.
    I have seen it often enough..

    Got micky'd in a bar for protesting the same.

    And experienced it myself,,, as a homeless man,, and when that was just assumed.

    The second video shows the distinction between a white man and a black man asking the same question in the same place..
    and the quite different response.

    Starbucks is taking it serious,,, because it is a glaring problem.

    Those trying to justify what Starbucks does not even try to justify is curious.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  19. #76
    Jan2017
    Member

    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Pretending this was anything other than blatant racism is disingenuous..
    Do you need to get verification of other race individuals getting kicked out of Starbucks or McDonalds to see that is NOT true ?
    It happens ALL the time - color does not $#@!ing matter one iota.
    Their "business" meeting should be able to utilize a Starbucks without support of their reception lobby why ?
    Use the wifi to arrange the business meeting or charge their cell phone while waiting - this is a colorless problem really for the restaurant.
    Last edited by Jan2017; 04-17-2018 at 02:38 PM.

  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Starbucks is taking it serious,,, because it is a glaring problem.

    Those trying to justify what Starbucks does not even try to justify is curious.
    I'm justifying a business owner/manager asking a noncustomer to leave the premises and forcing them out when they refuse. That is all I am justifying. They got off easy in my opinion and I couldn't give one $#@! about race.

  21. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by Jan2017 View Post
    wtf?

    White or black or brown or yellow or rainbow - the color of the trespassers should not matter - but ok . . .
    They were customers in an open for business location..

    They were not trespassing,, they were waiting for the other member of the party.. Who Was present at the arrest.

    Having customers arrested is (AND SHOULD BE) Bad for Business.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  22. #79
    Jan2017
    Member

    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    They were customers in an open for business location..
    Not involved in any business but their own , , , not buying anything - what is there legal reason to be at that restaurant conducting NO BUSINESS with that restaurant ?

    This form of "trspass" happens ALL the $#@!ing time regardless of COLOR - McDonalds or Starbucks - BLACK or white.
    Last edited by Jan2017; 04-17-2018 at 02:43 PM.

  23. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    I'm justifying a business owner/manager asking a noncustomer to leave the premises and forcing them out when they refuse. That is all I am justifying. They got off easy in my opinion and I couldn't give one $#@! about race.
    They were customers..
    Customers who had not ordered YET.

    Stupid move..
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  25. #81
    I don't know or care about this specific incident, people have a right to be bad stupid racists, people have a right to ask anyone to leave their property for any or no reason, many people are weak and not proficient in the use of weapons and it is the job of police/sheriff's deputies to protect their rights from those who violate them.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  26. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't know or care about this specific incident, people have a right to be bad stupid racists, people have a right to ask anyone to leave their property for any or no reason, many people are weak and not proficient in the use of weapons and it is the job of police/sheriff's deputies to protect their rights from those who violate them.
    It is not.

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  27. #83
    Behold

    The Justifications of the Authoritarians.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  28. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    It is supposed to be, very many things in life are not as they are supposed to be, that doesn't mean that their purpose doesn't exist it just means that they are broken.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  29. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    They need to serve the customer or go out of business..
    Overpriced trendy business models will not last long abusing customers.
    Those weren't customers, they were at a 'business meeting' at the request of someone who is probably a regular customer.

    Customers of starbucks like to go in, get some coffee and leave or sit in a nice quiet area.

    Starbucks or not is irrelevant, because there are a lot of coffee shops just like starbucks and they aren't going anywhere. Some are chains, some are privately owned by individuals. They aren't that overpriced, you can buy good gourmet coffee for less than $2. It's the specialty drinks that are in the $3-$5 range.
    Last edited by dannno; 04-17-2018 at 02:54 PM.
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  30. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    They were customers..
    Customers who had not ordered YET.
    Stupid move..
    If they hadn't ordered and weren't in line waiting to order, then they weren't $#@!ing customers.
    They could have just ordered and avoided the whole thing. I mean, that's what they were supposedly there for.

  31. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by Jan2017 View Post
    Not involved in any business but their own ,
    Their business is none of yours nor Starbucks..

    They were invited there for a business meeting,, by a third man,,,who was buying coffee..
    They got there minutes before him and asked to use the Facilities.. They were Customers.

    The management was an Ass,, and they should take their business elsewhere.

    The police are only a problem. and only increased the insult.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  32. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It is supposed to be, very many things in life are not as they are supposed to be, that doesn't mean that their purpose doesn't exist it just means that they are broken.
    Lol. It's not even supposed to be.

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  34. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    The management was an Ass,, and they should take their business elsewhere.
    It seems to me that, that is exactly what the management was asking them to do. And then they refused...

  35. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    It is SUPPOSED to be their job whether some police departments were born broken or not.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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