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    4 7.27%
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    2 3.64%
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    5 9.09%
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    41 74.55%
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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This only proves Trump's sense of humor.
    So true, and not the kinda funny who was just born yesterday but a track record of being humorous going back decades. That's genuine article.




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  3. #62
    TBDA, having a big vision counts for something.



    Trump orders NASA to send American astronauts to the moon, Mars





    There is no eveidence that a page was taken from Bush's big vision playbook.

    CNN.com - Bush unveils vision for moon and beyond - Jan. 15, 2004
    www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/01/14/bush.space/
    Jan 15, 2004 - U.S. President Bush unveils the multi-billion dollar space initiative. Launch manned mission to moon between 2015 and 2020

  4. #63
    Unlike tough crowd here, it appears many Senators still care for President's statements:

    Senators demand Trump say whether Saudi prince ordered Khashoggi killing

    By BURGESS EVERETT
    11/20/2018

    The bipartisan leadership of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee is demanding a definitive determination from President Donald Trump about whether Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia ordered the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...illing-1009549

  5. #64
    How about having some faith, he seems much more honest and straight shooter compared to Hillary:

    Money managers are realizing that Trump isn't 'dependable enough' for the market: Cramer



    • CNBC's Jim Cramer attributes part of Tuesday's marketwide collapse to political uncertainty brought about by the Trump administration.
    • Money managers are realizing that the president doesn't take his economic policies "seriously enough to be considered dependable," the "Mad Money" host says.
    • And when money managers are faced with uncertainty, they tend to sell, Cramer says.


    Published 6 Hours Ago

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/04/cram...ependable.html


    ‘Chaos breeds chaos’: Trump’s erratic and false claims roil the globe. Again.

    December 4
    After his Argentine steak dinner last weekend with Chinese President Xi Jinping, President Trump announced that they had reached an “incredible deal” to temporarily suspend his trade war. But days later, Trump declared, “I am a Tariff man.”
    Trump last week proposed stripping away electric-car subsidies from General Motors as punishment for the automotive giant moving to cease production at plants in the United States and Canada. But then his chief economic adviser, Larry Kudlow, said the White House would do no such thing. Targeting a single company, he explained, would be illegal.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...7e7_story.html



    Tue Dec 4
    The Treasury yield curve just inverted, sounding the alarm for recession



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  7. #65
    Coulter may be crossing the line here:


    Coulter: Trump Will Not Finish Current Term, "joke presidency who scammed the American people"



    GUTLESS PRESIDENT IN WALL-LESS COUNTRY

    December 19, 2018

    If you were elected president after decades of politicians doing nothing about the millions of illegals pouring into our country every year, committing crimes, dealing drugs, driving drunk, molesting children and killing Americans like Kate Steinle, and your central campaign promise -- repeated every day -- was to build a wall, wouldn't you have spent the entirety of your transition period working on getting it done?

    Wouldn't you have been building prototypes, developing relationships with key congressional allies and talking to military leaders about using the Seabees or the Army Corps of Engineers to build the wall?

    Wouldn't you skip the inauguration and take the oath of office in San Diego so you could get started on supervising wall construction immediately after putting your hand on the Bible and being sworn in as the leader of the free world?

    You would if you meant it.

    Well, Donald Trump didn't do that.

    OK, sure he could have taken the oath in D.C., gone to a few balls, then started the wall on day two of his presidency. But he didn't do that either.

    Maybe I'm a literalist. A zealot. When people kept telling me to be patient -- the wall is coming! -- I nursed a private hope that I was wrong, and they were right.

    It is now crystal clear that one of two things is true: Either Trump never intended to build the wall and was scamming voters all along, or he has no idea how to get it done and zero interest in finding out.

    He sacrifices every opportunity to make the wall happen.

    For two years, Trump pretended to believe the president of the United States needs express authorization from Congress to defend the nation's borders and blamed the Republican majority for not "funding" the wall.

    In a few weeks, he'll start blaming the Democratic House.

    Last week -- several whole days ago -- Trump said over and over again that he would shut down the government if he didn't get funding for the wall -- the precise thing he claims he needs. "We need border security. The wall is a part of border security," he said. "If we don't have border security, we'll shut down the government."



    Trump wore the shutdown over the wall as a badge of honor: "You want to know something? OK, you want to put that on me. I'll take it. You know what I'll say? Yes, if we don't get what we want ... I will shut down the government. Absolutely."

    One week later, The Drudge Report:

    WALL FUNDING OFF TABLE

    In other words, Trump is doing exactly what I feared he would do in the worst conceivable way. He's not building the wall, while making ridiculous promises right up until the second before he folds.

    The Washington Post loves to find the one crazy, trailer park lady who supports Trump because she's had religious ecstasies about him, but most people who voted for him did so with a boatload of qualms.

    The basic factory setting on the perception of Trump is: gigantic douchebag. This is a man who manufactured fake Time magazine covers featuring himself with the headline, "Donald Trump: The 'Apprentice' is a television smash!" so that he could put framed copies of it on the walls of his clubs.

    His business is convincing people with lowbrow taste to give him their money.

    He's a vulgar publicity hound who used to call reporters in a fake voice and pretend to be his own PR agent, "John Miller" or "John Barron," so he could brag that actresses wanted to date him.

    On one "Apprentice" episode, the reward for the winning team was: to see Trump's apartment. Not to eat there or spend the night. They got to see it. "As a little treat," he said, "you're gonna see the nicest apartment in New York City." He added: "I show this apartment to very few people. Presidents, kings ..."

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/20...html#read_more

  8. #66

  9. #67

  10. #68


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjHPDzUOe2U




    Granted critics are right in that MAGA used race card to win election and energize Far Right (many of whom feel betrayed now ) ahead of 2016, but media calling him a 'racist' was fakenews.
    There has never been a 'racist' in entire US history who supported racial-mixing , interracial romances. Hip top donor is a socialist liberal and he himself is more liberal than Hillary Clinton whom he used to fund incidentally.

  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjHPDzUOe2U




    Granted critics are right in that MAGA used race card to win election and energize Far Right (many of whom feel betrayed now ) ahead of 2016, but media calling him a 'racist' was fakenews.
    There has never been a 'racist' in entire US history who supported racial-mixing , interracial romances. Hip top donor is a socialist liberal and he himself is more liberal than Hillary Clinton whom he used to fund incidentally.
    O'Bummer was not a Natural Born US citizen even if he was born in the US (which is doubtful) because his mother had to renounce his citizenship to get him Indonesian citizenship and he never reclaimed it.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  12. #70
    Do you find MAGA more credible in above video or tweet .. or both (in post #68)?

    Do you agree with critics who had claimed that he used race card pre-elections and then changed his tune after winning elections?

  13. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Do you find MAGA more credible in above video or tweet .. or both (in post #68)?

    Do you agree with critics who had claimed that he used race card pre-elections and then changed his tune after winning elections?
    I told you what I believe regarding O'Bummer's citizenship and the citizenship question isn't racial.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  14. #72
    You seem to be focussing solely on trees/'factoids' but context of this discussion is the forest/credibility of MAGA conservative wing's top leadership.

    But if you want to insist on analyzing tiny facts, was this racial/ race card play?
    He never made similar statements after 8 years of disastrous Bush-Cheney term.



    Pre-election:






    Post election:

    10-26-2018
    Trump says very soon there will be a Black President
    While talking to black leaders earlier today, he said very soon one of you will be a President.. or three, four of you will be where I am.



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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by thoughtomator View Post
    Bolton is there for the same reason Scaramucci was there. To fire as many Obama-Bush people as possible until it becomes impossible for him to operate effectively against them, and then the next guy will come in. My guess is he lasts to the end of August.
    Well its June 2019 and he still hasn't been fired.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

  17. #74
    Such Conservative/Right/Far Right supporters exits from MAGA camp the reason for his falling poll numbers?


    Coulter on Trump : "Joke presidency who scammed the American people"
    According to the Daily Beast, Coulter additionally noted that this current decision of Trump’s to back away from a shutdown over the border wall could permanently dismantle his legacy.
    Either Trump never intended to build a wall and was scamming voters from the beginning or he hasn’t the first idea in how to get it done and no interest in finding out. My prediction is his support will evaporate and Trump will very likely not finish his term and definitely not be elected to a second term.”
    “Trump will just have been a joke presidency who scammed the American people, amused the populists for a while, but he’ll have no legacy whatsoever.”
    https://www.inquisitr.com/5216330/an...erm-over-wall/


    Conservative Gun Owners Of America leader on Trump: 'He's a fraud and has betrayed us twice now'

    Drudge is turning on Trump



    White Nationalist leader Spencer who once supported Trump now says he's playing a 'con game'

    David Duke supported Trump in 2016 and now supports Ilhan Omar




    NEWSWEEK: Coulter has joined fellow conservative Drudge to attack Trump, Says Prez Is 'Too Chicken' to Attack Drudge

    Trump Hits Washington Examiner as ‘Fake News’ for Report That He Hasn’t Built Any New Wall

    Ann Coulter: Trump by the Numbers





    Potentially Related




    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox...emocratic-race

  18. #75
    Ann Coulter must have a VESTED interest in the MIC (investments, stocks) who help create the problems (lobbyists) and then provides the “solutions” (legislation). Instead of calling for an End to Welfare. She never did like Ron Paul, did she.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...tention-Center


    Nothing to see here, moving along...
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

  19. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Ann Coulter must have a VESTED interest in the MIC (investments, stocks) who help create the problems (lobbyists) and then provides the “solutions” (legislation). Instead of calling for an End to Welfare.
    ...

    To be fair, she is one of the few on Right who have criticized neoconservative foreign interventions lobbyist financier funding GOP-MAGA wing. Granted she went too far in her criticism of MAGA ( using i-word and scam) , she has a following among hardcore conservatives and cannot be dismissed enitrely.

    Between GOP-Adelson/MAGA and Coulter, currently whose stance do you see as worse on foreign interventions, MIC, border wall, DACA etc?

  20. #77

  21. #78

  22. #79
    Strange how my post in this thread is blank

    Anyone see my post? Post? IsThatMyPost? YousheenMyPost?

    Meh...

    Gulag Chief:
    "Article 58-1a, twenty five years... What did you get it for?"
    Gulag Prisoner: "For nothing at all."
    Gulag Chief: "You're lying... The sentence for nothing at all is 10 years"



  23. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by brushfire View Post
    Strange how my post in this thread is blank

    Anyone see my post? Post? IsThatMyPost? YousheenMyPost?

    Meh...
    The image isn't working today, it will probably be working again another day.

    That happens around here randomly for some reason.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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  25. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The image isn't working today, it will probably be working again another day.

    That happens around here randomly for some reason.
    Thanks... I'd just been concocting an elaborate, conspiratorial explanation in my head.

    Your explanation seems overly simple, yet entirely plausible. "Horses, not zebras"...

    Gulag Chief:
    "Article 58-1a, twenty five years... What did you get it for?"
    Gulag Prisoner: "For nothing at all."
    Gulag Chief: "You're lying... The sentence for nothing at all is 10 years"



  26. #82


    To be fair, his change of stance could be due to latest expert advice :



    Trump's Sr. Advisor Ivanka is Advising Her Father to Stand For Gun Control

    President Trump's daughter and senior aide Ivanka Trump is involved in the White House's outreach to members of Congress, a White House official told CBS News. Her outreach, the official said, is a part of the White House office of legislative affairs' efforts to engage members of Congress in talks about gun policy.
    Ivanka Trump "has trusted relationships on both sides of the aisle and she is working in concert with the White House policy and legislative teams," a White House official said. Axios first reported Ivanka Trump's involvement.
    The president's elder daughter was the first in the Trump family to declare the shootings in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio, acts of "terror." And she has voiced support for "red flag" laws, which would allow law enforcement to take weapons from Americans deemed to be a risk to themselves or others.

  27. #83
    https://theweek.com/speedreads/86015...kground-checks

    Trump evidently chose NRA chief Wayne LaPierre over Ivanka Trump on universal background checks

    President Trump spoke by phone with National Rifle Association CEO Wayne LaPierre for at least 30 minutes on Tuesday, and according to at least three accounts of their conversation, Trump assured LaPierre that expanding background checks — supported by 90 percent of Americans in multiple polls conducted after the back-to-back mass shootings in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio — is off the table.

    In the call, Trump assured LaPierre that "he was not interested in legislation establishing universal background checks and that his focus would be on the mental health of the gunmen, not their guns," The New York Times reports. Trump said as much after the phone call, telling reporters "we have very, very strong background checks right now," and "mental problems" are the "sort of missing areas and areas that don't complete the whole circle." He added: "A lot of the people that put me where I am are strong believers in the Second Amendment, and I am also."

    This wasn't Trump's first aborted post-shooting lurch toward gun control, nor his first conversation with LaPierre after the El Paso and Dayton mass murders. Three days after the shootings, daughter and senior adviser Ivanka Trump "had proposed the idea of a televised Rose Garden appearance as a way to nudge her father toward supporting universal background checks," promising a made-for-TV occasion "where Trump could sign a document and call it 'historic' and 'unprecedented' — and receive positive media attention," The Atlantic reports.

    Trump "loved it. He was all spun up about it," a former senior White House official told The Atlantic, but when he enthusiastically pitched the idea to LaPierre on an Aug. 7 call, LaPierre shot it down, and, as an NRA official put it, "the Rose Garden fantasy" was dead. The NRA, despite scandal and shrinking support, has kept up the lobbying onslaught unabated, to a receptive White House. Ivanka Trump assured GOP donors in Wyoming on Monday night that the White House is still focused on background checks, The Atlantic notes, but "less than 24 hours later, her father reportedly assured LaPierre of the opposite." Peter Weber
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
    "There is always a tweet. That has become accepted fact in the Trump presidency: For every pronouncement the President makes, there is at least one tweet from his past that directly contradicts his current view." -CNN

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

  28. #84


    Looking at poll results, have to say it's astonishing how little value is placed on MAGA's word around here.
    To give credit where due, MAGA did expose lyin politicians and puppets of globalists.












    Potentially Related

    Trump to announce gun control this week

  29. #85
    'Fool me' 1.0

    04-05-2018
    Trump: 'Just Kidding. We're Staying In Syria.'



    'Fool me' 2.0


    Oct. 7, 2019
    Trump Administration Appears to Reverse Syria Decision Following Backlash
    The U.S. is not removing its forces from Syria in the face of a Turkish incursion, said the official, speaking on the condition of anonymity.
    Source: USNEWS.com


    Potentially Related

    'Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...'

  30. #86
    The spambot is going ballistic and trying to portray Trump's pulling out of Syria as a bad thing, it obviously has a zionist warmonger agenda in spite of its attempts to feign otherwise, Trump has never been the warmonger it wants so it has constantly tried to trick those who support him for not being a warmonger into rejecting him so he can be replaced by a zionist approved warmonger.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  31. #87
    Q Mr. President, are you confident that — are you confident that these gentlemen — I guess, mostly who are sitting around you — believe what you’re doing in Syria is the best idea at this point?

    THE PRESIDENT: Well, we’ve been in Syria for a long time.
    And it was supposed to be a very short hit, and — hit on ISIS. But it didn’t work out that way. They never left. And they’ve been there for many, many years. And we are — we were down to very few soldiers in Syria. We had 50 in the region that you’re talking about — 50 soldiers — and they’ve been already moved out.

    But we’ll see what happens with respect to a lot of different things. We’ve told Turkey — I spoke with President Erdoğan of Turkey, and I said, “Got to treat them good, and you got to take care of ISIS.” Don’t forget, we’ve captured — we defeated — this group, largely — defeated ISIS. One hundred percent of the caliphate. One hundred percent. And we wanted to do 100 percent. I was going to do this nine months ago, and we were not at 100 percent, but we were pretty close. Everyone said, “Can we get to 100 percent?” Now I get to 100 percent, and they say, “Well, maybe we could stay longer.” I say, “Well, when do we get out?” There’s got to be a time we get out. We have to bring our people back home.
    And frankly, our great soldiers have been talking about this on the campaign. You go back three years ago and more, and you watch the speeches. We want to bring our soldiers back home. These are the endless wars.
    And we’re not fighting; we’re policing, to a large extent. We’re policing in certain areas. We’re not police, we’re — these are fighters, great fighters; the greatest in the world. And that’s what they do.
    So I’ve told President Erdoğan — I hope he’s going to treat everybody with great respect. You have to understand, they’ve been fighting various of the people that we were working with, and they — Turkey has been fighting them for many years. Somebody said hundreds of years. You had just mentioned to me yesterday, 200 years, maybe more.
    At some point, we have to bring our people back home. And that’s what we’re doing. That’s what we’re doing.
    Q Is it a firm decision, sir?
    THE PRESIDENT: It’s always a firm decision. Last time I made a firm decision, but — and I said, “We’ll do it over a period of time.” We’ve been doing this, actually, over a period of time — over a very long period of time. And we’ve been working with the people in this room, and our soldiers have been coming back over that period of time.

    More at: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings...itary-leaders/
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  32. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    said the official, speaking on the condition of anonymity.
    How many times have you been fooled by that so far?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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  34. #89

  35. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    You fall for EVERY "anonymous source" that the MSM makes up because you are part of the same propaganda operation and are required to.

    Trump has refused to start a war with Iran or send US troops to Yemen or attack Assad or invade Venezuela and that makes you mad so you lie and twist about his efforts to withdraw our troops in the hopes of getting rid of him and getting someone who will.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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