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    Tucker: Would war against Assad make US safer?



    Syria is a complicated situation. With Assad gone, who would run it?
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    A good rule of thumb is, a war with anyone, makes the US safer.
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    Has the War Party Hooked Trump?

    by Patrick J. Buchanan Posted on April 10, 2018

    With his Sunday tweet that Bashar Assad, "Animal Assad," ordered a gas attack on Syrian civilians, and Vladimir Putin was morally complicit in the atrocity, President Donald Trump just painted himself and us into a corner.

    "Many dead, including women and children, in mindless CHEMICAL attack in Syria," tweeted Trump, "President Putin, Russia and Iran are responsible for backing Animal Assad. Big price… to pay."

    "Big price… to pay," said the president.

    Now, either Trump launches an attack that could drag us deeper into a seven-year civil war from which he promised to extricate us last week, or Trump is mocked as being a man of bluster and bluff.

    For Trump Sunday accused Barack Obama of being a weakling for failing to strike Syria after an earlier chemical attack.

    "If President Obama had crossed his stated Red Line In The Sand," Trump tweeted, "the Syrian disaster would have ended long ago! Animal Assad would have been history!"
    Trump’s credibility is now on the line and he is being goaded by the war hawks to man up. Sunday, John McCain implied that Trump’s comments about leaving Syria "very soon" actually "emboldened" Assad:

    "President Trump last week signaled to the world that the United States would prematurely withdraw from Syria. Bashar Assad and his Russian and Iranian backers have heard him, and emboldened by American inaction, Assad has reportedly launched another chemical attack against innocent men, women and children, this time in Douma."

    Pronouncing Assad a "war criminal," Lindsey Graham said Sunday the entire Syrian air force should be destroyed.

    So massive an attack would be an act of war against a nation that has not attacked us and does not threaten us. Hence, Congress, prior to such an attack, should pass a resolution authorizing a U.S. war on Syria.

    And, as Congress does, it can debate our objectives in this new war, and how many men, casualties and years will be required to defeat the coalition of Syria, Russia, Hezbollah, Iran, and the allied Shiite militias from the Near East.

    On John Bolton’s first day as national security adviser, Trump is being pushed to embrace a policy of Cold War confrontation with Russia and a U.S. war with Syria. Yet candidate Trump campaigned against both.

    The War Party that was repudiated in 2016 appears to be back in the saddle. But before he makes good on that threat of a "big price… to pay," Trump should ask his advisers what comes after the attack on Syria.

    Lest we forget, there was a reason Obama did not strike Syria for a previous gas attack. Americans rose up as one and said we do not want another Middle East war.
    When John Kerry went to Capitol Hill for authorization, Congress, sensing the national mood, declined to support any such attack.

    Trump’s strike, a year ago, with 59 cruise missiles, on the air base that allegedly launched a sarin gas attack, was supported only because Trump was new in office and the strike was not seen as the beginning of a longer and deeper involvement in a war Americans did not want to fight.

    Does Trump believe that his political base is more up for a major U.S. war in Syria today than it was then?
    The folks who cheered Trump a week ago when he said we were getting out of Syria, will they cheer him if he announces that we are going deeper in?

    Before any U.S. attack, Trump should make sure there is more hard evidence that Assad launched this poison gas attack than there is that Russia launched that poison gas attack in Salisbury, England.

    One month after that attack, which Prime Minister Theresa May ascribed to Russia and Foreign Minister Boris Johnson laid at the feet of Putin himself, questions have arisen:

    If the nerve agent used, Novichok, was of a military variety so deadly it could kill any who came near, why is no one dead from it?
    Both the target, Sergei Skripal, and his daughter Yulia are recovering.

    If the deadly poison was, as reported, put on the doorknob of Skripal’s home, how did he and Yulia manage to go to a restaurant after being contaminated, with neither undergoing a seizure until later on a park bench?

    If Russia did it, why are the British scientists at Porton Down now admitting that they have not yet determined the source of the poison?

    Why would Putin, with the prestige of hosting the World Cup in June on the line, perpetrate an atrocity that might have killed hundreds and caused nations not only to pull out of the games, but to break diplomatic relations with Russia?

    U.S. foreign policy elites claim Putin wanted Trump to win the 2016 election. But if Putin indeed wanted to deal with Trump, why abort all such prospects with a poison gas murder of a has-been KGB agent in Britain, America’s foremost ally?

    The sole beneficiaries of the gas attacks in Salisbury and Syria appear to be the War Party.

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    Tucker nails it.

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    Tucker nails it.


    tucker made mincemeat of this senator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    That is the sad truth of US politics. If this sick, disgusting, anti American policy stance by both parties is not broken, things will never change for the better around here. This is one of the reasons I never trusted Trump, the man has a strong pro Israeli history before he got into politics.
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    Trust principles; not people.
    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.

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    Antisemite accusations in 5,4,3,2...............
    “Force the normies into taking sides. At the moment they are just like "meh, I am minding my own business" retreating culturally into their private bubbles and "safe-spaces" since they don't understand what is going on. When the actual "us vs them" starts, they will be forced to fight or they'll die.” - Anonymous Poster

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    TUCK-ER, TUCK-ER, TUCK-ER, TUCK-ER...

    The Last MAN on Television.

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    Truth is a social construct. 👁👁

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Antisemite accusations in 5,4,3,2...............
    Truth is a social construct. 👁👁

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    Quote Originally Posted by H_H View Post
    TUCK-ER, TUCK-ER, TUCK-ER, TUCK-ER...

    The Last MAN on Television.
    He's come around somewhat. (Probably quite a bit off-air.)
    In sorrow, we must go, but not in despair. Behold! We are not bound forever to the circles of the world, and beyond them is more than memory. Farewell!

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    No , war against Assad does not make US citizens safer or Syrian citizens safer .

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    No , war against Assad does not make US citizens safer or Syrian citizens safer .
    Should war advocates be forced disclose their portfolio positions in MIC securities?
    Truth is a social construct. 👁👁

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    Quote Originally Posted by H_H View Post
    TUCK-ER, TUCK-ER, TUCK-ER, TUCK-ER...

    The Last MAN on Television.
    But Tucker was not allowed to name the real reason Assad must go. Because Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vieux Canard View Post
    But Tucker was not allowed to name the real reason
    Gateway drugs are a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H_H View Post
    Gateway drugs are a thing.
    That's what the gatekeepers say at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    That's what the gatekeepers say at least.
    Can be a blurry, wavy line, through a dark glass, si. Doctor or dealer? Red-purple or blue-purple pills? Well, 'tis not mine to judge.

    All I know is that I like Tucker. A lot. And that's never even having seen his show! (no veg tube)

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    I liked him even back in the Ron Paul bow tie days. He covered positively, spoke honestly, and just... didn't seem like a total CIA asset. Good man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Should war advocates be forced disclose their portfolio positions in MIC securities?
    If you are in congress and voting on war declaration yes . I also see nothing wrong with requiring they be sold when elected .

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    If you are in congress and voting on war declaration yes . I also see nothing wrong with requiring they be sold when elected .
    Yes. I am generally against slavery, but selling pro-MIC Congressmen to some sadistic Nigerian tribe would be great; I give it the unambiguous Moral Thumbs-Up. Or Ghana. They could hoe the blood chocolate fields.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H_H View Post
    Yes. I am generally against slavery, but selling pro-MIC Congressmen to some sadistic Nigerian tribe would be great; I give it the unambiguous Moral Thumbs-Up. Or Ghana. They could hoe the blood chocolate fields.
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    Quote Originally Posted by H_H View Post
    I liked him even back in the Ron Paul bow tie days. He covered positively, spoke honestly, and just... didn't seem like a total CIA asset. Good man.
    He's about as good as you're going to get on Faux News. Actually I'm surprised they haven't Napolitano'd him yet. RT has better (channel 321 on DirectTV).

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    No war with Assad will not make us safer. It'll actually make us less free.

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    And the contrast with Tucker Carlson was the reaction from teocons like Sean Hannity and Mark Levin, who fear-mongered and advocated attacking Syria as aggressively as John Bolton ever could.

    Levin had a guest on his radio show to discuss Syria. He tweeted a message to follow his guest expert:


    https://twitter.com/marklevinshow/st...07793729806336
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    God I hate Hannity and Levin. Both are freaking hypocrites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    God I hate Hannity and Levin. Both are freaking hypocrites.
    Domestically they are fine, but they have the most atrocious foreign policy views.
    “Force the normies into taking sides. At the moment they are just like "meh, I am minding my own business" retreating culturally into their private bubbles and "safe-spaces" since they don't understand what is going on. When the actual "us vs them" starts, they will be forced to fight or they'll die.” - Anonymous Poster

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