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Thread: IL - Village of Deerfield bans "assault rifles" and magazines

  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    For your own good.
    Yeah, would make the undertaker happy too.



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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    My frustration is this:

    I wonder just how many of those gun owners will pack up their families, their businesses, and their tax dollars and move to other more gun-friendly states, or will they eventually just comply and settle back down and hope this is as far as it goes?

    Why do gun owners still live in New Jersey? Or Connecticut, or Deerfield, Illinois? Why help keep those areas of the country worthy of even being put on a map? Leave, and announce your exit boldly. And hell, let criminals know that law-abiding gun owners of Deerfield are bugging out but leaving the gate open.
    $#@! a bunch of "packing up the family." Carry openly. Shoot, or beat the $#@! out of, the first sumbitch that tries to take it away from you. Like John Joe Gray.



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    So break down my door in the middle of the night like a thief, and then they'll find out if I'm armed.
    What about during the day?

  6. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    They just sent a crystal clear message to criminals that the people of Deerfield, IL are now sitting ducks.
    Yep . . . let it be known then - the goal is that the only folks that are gonna be armed in Deerfield, Illinois
    would be the goonerment and the bad guys.

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    What about during the day?
    If they knock at the door, I'll answer....

    Break the door down and I'll figure I'm being assaulted.

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    If they knock at the door, I'll answer....

    Break the door down and I'll figure I'm being assaulted.
    What about driving to the local hardware store?

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    What about driving to the local hardware store?
    What about it?

    Pull me over and I'm pulled over.... now what?

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    What about it?

    Pull me over and I'm pulled over.... now what?
    "Mr. 3D we've pulled you over because we've been informed by our data base that you have illegal weapons. We're going to take you into custody because you have not turned your gun in nor payed your fines."

    Now what, indeed?

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    "Mr. 3D we've pulled you over because we've been informed by our data base that you have illegal weapons. We're going to take you into custody because you have not turned your gun in nor payed your fines."

    Now what, indeed?
    Yeah, well I'm too old for that $#@!.... give me life and it wouldn't be more than five years anyway.

  12. #40
    Jan2017
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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    "Mr. 3D we've pulled you over because we've been informed by our data base that you have illegal weapons. We're going to take you into custody because you have not turned your gun in nor payed your fines."

    Now what, indeed?
    An unlawful possession of firearm (can even be in an adjoining room in the house - unloaded) . . .
    is a serious felonious enhancement to whatever the State accuses you of doing - jaywalking unlawfully armed (?)- shame shame - go to jail.
    Last edited by Jan2017; 04-04-2018 at 07:51 PM.



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Jan2017 View Post
    Yep . . . let it be known then - the goal is that the only folks that are gonna be armed in Deerfield, Illinois
    would be the goonerment and the bad guys.
    You are being redundant.
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  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Yeah, well I'm too old for that $#@!.... give me life and it wouldn't be more than five years anyway.
    Don't think that way, we need you and all the liberty lovers to live forever.
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  16. #43
    Jan2017
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You are being redundant.
    Well, ok, I meant the "legally authorized goonerment" and the "illegal, criminal bad guys" (?) -
    damn, still no difference.

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Don't think that way, we need you and all the liberty lovers to live forever.
    Well, they could ask and I could tell them, I am storing my firearms outside of their stinking little village.

    But would they believe me?

    Might be a great business opportunity for somebody.
    Build a storage facility just outside of town for folks in that stinking little town to store their contraband items.

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Well, they could ask and I could tell them, I am storing my firearms outside of their stinking little village.

    But would they believe me?

    Might be a great business opportunity for somebody.
    Build a storage facility just outside of town for folks in that stinking little town to store their contraband items.

    And when seconds count, just like cops, it is only minutes away...
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  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    And when seconds count, just like cops, it is only minutes away...
    Just use your revolver.

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Yeah, well I'm too old for that $#@!.... give me life and it wouldn't be more than five years anyway.
    What I thought..

    and 30 years past due I don't know if I want to do another 30.
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  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Jan2017 View Post
    Yep . . . let it be known then - the goal is that the only folks that are gonna be armed in Deerfield, Illinois
    would be the goonerment and the bad guys.
    you are being redundant.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Just use your revolver.

    I inherited a couple of those...but never shot them. I prefer my semi-automatic arsenal, that I am trained on.

    The government even trained me to shot over my shoulder sitting down facing forward while protecting my neck from knife attacks.
    Last edited by Danke; 04-04-2018 at 10:56 PM.
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  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    The government even trained me to shot over my shoulder sitting down facing forward while protecting my neck from knife attacks.
    In case of Injun attacks?
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  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    In case of Injun attacks?
    I don't allow Injuns to fly on my airplanes.
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  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    I don't allow Injuns to fly on my airplanes.
    I meant stowaways.
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  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    $#@! a bunch of "packing up the family." Carry openly. Shoot, or beat the $#@! out of, the first sumbitch that tries to take it away from you. Like John Joe Gray.
    Less chance of that happening than moving away, to be honest. I feel like we conservatives keep liberal strongholds above water. We should stop being their milk-cows.
    We leave, we take our wealth and self-sufficiency with us, and those areas will wither and blow away. Detroit 2.0.

    Then it becomes a vicious cycle of a slow, painful decay. Poverty increases. Crime increases. Taxes increase to compensate for loss of tax revenue and need to expand law enforcement. Further strain on the businesses who remain. Poverty increases. Crime increases. Everyone starts getting taxed, not just the wealthy. Taxes increase to compensate. Liberal leaders become rulers of a kingdom of rubble and condemned buildings. Poverty increases. Crime increases. Taxes increase. The city dies.
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    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
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  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    And when seconds count, just like cops, it is only minutes away...
    And will secure the perimeter of the scene.

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  29. #55
    A second lawsuit is seeking to overturn the village of Deerfield’s assault weapons ban that is scheduled to take effect June 13.

    The suit filed Thursday by the advocacy group Guns Save Life and Deerfield resident John William Wombacher III challenges the Deerfield ordinance that was approved April 2 on numerous grounds.
    The National Rifle Association’s Institute for Legislative Action issued a news release Thursday saying it was supporting the Guns Save Life lawsuit.
    The suit contends, among other things, that a provision instructing the Deerfield chief of police to confiscate and destroy assault weapons and large-capacity magazines violates a guarantee under the Illinois Constitution that private property shall not be taken for public use without just compensation.
    The suit also challenges the definition of “so-called assault weapons” and “large capacity magazines” in the ordinance, noting the ban covers prevalent firearms that are overwhelmingly used for self-defense. Those include the AR-15, described in the suit as “America's most popular semiautomatic rifle.”
    “What we are looking to do is block the village of Deerfield’s unconstitutional efforts, in our opinion, to deny residents, passers through and people visiting the right to firearms based merely on cosmetic appearance,” said John Boch, executive director of Guns Save Life.
    Boch said the Deerfield ordinance banning firearms “based on appearances makes no more sense than banning brown M&M’s just because the village doesn’t like the color of the particular M&M.”

    Deerfield officials could not be reached Thursday for comment on the latest lawsuit.

    More at: http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburb...426-story.html
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  30. #56
    A Lake County Circuit Court judge has issued a temporary restraining order blocking the Village of Deerfield from enforcing the assault weapons ban scheduled to take effect Wednesday.
    The Deerfield ordinance, which was approved April 2, gave residents until June 13 to turn in any guns that fit the village’s definition of assault weapons, remove them from the village, or alter the weapons so they would not be prohibited under the ordinance. Residents found in violation could be fined up to $1,000 a day.
    Plaintiffs in two lawsuits challenging the village’s authority to prohibit assault weapons asked Circuit Court Judge Luis Berrones Tuesday to prevent enforcement until the case could be heard. The judge issued a written ruling later Tuesday granting the request.

    More at: http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburb...621-story.html
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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