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    Lockheed Martin Patents Nuclear Fusion-Powered Fighter Jet

    Lockheed Martin has secretly been developing a game-changing compact nuclear fusion reactor that could potentially fit into a fighter jet. The Maryland-based defense contractor recently obtained a patent associated with its design for a fully compact fusion reactor, after filing for the patent in 2014.
    If the latest patent from the defense company serves as a benchmark, nuclear fusion technology could revolutionize the aeronautic industry and eventually begin the quantum leap from fossil fuels to compact fusion reactors for the industry.
    According to CBS Washington, the prototype system would be the size of a normal shipping container but capable of producing enough energy to power 80,000 residential homes or a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier, sometime in the next year or so.
    The patent, tilted “Encapsulating Magnetic Fields for Plasma Confinement,” is dated Feb. 15, 2018. CBS indicates that Skunk Works, also known as Lockheed Martin’s Advanced Development Programs or its advanced R&D group, has reportedly been developing the compact fusion reactor since about 2014, with latest reports suggesting the technology could be ready for production by 2019.


    Lockheed indicates that the compact size of the reactor has induced a technology revolution, which instead of taking “five years to design and build a concept, it takes only a few months.”
    “The compact size is the reason that we believe we will be able to create fusion technology quickly. The smaller the size of the device, the easier it is to build up momentum and develop it faster. Instead of taking five years to design and build a concept, it takes only a few months. If we undergo a few of these testing and refinement cycles, we will be able to develop a prototype within the same five year timespan.”
    As the technology advances, the size of the fusion reactor shrinks. Lockheed has dropped the bombshell and indicated the reactor could be ready to mount on “a truck, aircraft, ship, train, spacecraft, or submarine.” Across the board, Lockheed could revolutionize the transportation industry in the very near term.

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...ed-fighter-jet
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    Didn't Russians just announce this? - "Like a Meteorite" - http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...Meteorite-quot

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    Zerohedge loves sensational headlines- even ones their own articles contradict.

    The size of their proposed reactor is "the size of a shipping container" which would be pretty large to try to put on a fighter jet as the Zerohedge headline tries to claim. A shipping container is eight feet by eight feet by a minimum of 20 feet. Way too big for a fighter jet. It is also said to weigh about 20 tons which is also a problem for aircraft (this blog says it will actually be 100 times bigger than that: https://thefusionblog.quora.com/An-A...-Fusion-Effort ). Large cargo aircraft can be capable of carrying such loads.

    From a link via the Zerohedge article:

    http://washington.cbslocal.com/2018/...ckheed-martin/

    Lockheed Martin Receives Patent For ‘World Changing’ Fusion Reactor

    CBS Local — Lockheed Martin has reportedly been working on a revolutionary new type of reactor that can power anything from cities to aircraft carriers.

    The Maryland-based defense contractor recently received a patent for the compact fusion reactor (CFR) after filing plans for the device in 2014. According to reports, one generator would be as small as a shipping container but produce the energy to power 80,000 homes or one of the U.S. Navy’s Nimitz-class carriers.
    the blog: https://thefusionblog.quora.com/An-A...-Fusion-Effort

    The Compact Fusion Reactor

    The Compact Fusion Reactor is the name for the fusion power plant idea put forth by Lockheed Martin. This plant is projected to make ~320 megawatts of electricity. That would make it a fusion reactor, on par with a combined cycle natural gas plant. It would make it smaller than todays’ nuclear reactors and more powerful than current solar plants. Its fuel source could be cheap, and its’ radioactive waste could be very low. But - based on the newest numbers - the CFR is not as compact as we had thought [31]. The core looks to be over 50 feet long and 20 feet in diameter. A hot plasma will sit inside this ~16.3 cubic meter space.
    Nobody has yet demonstrated a successful fusion reactor.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 04-01-2018 at 02:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    The size of their proposed reactor is "the size of a shipping container" which would be pretty large to try to put on a fighter jet as the Zerohedge headline tries to claim. A shipping container is eight feet by eight feet by a minimum of 20 feet. Way too big for a fighter jet. It is also said to weigh about 20 tons which is also a problem for aircraft (this blog says it will actually be 100 times bigger than that: https://thefusionblog.quora.com/An-A...-Fusion-Effort ). Large cargo aircraft can be capable of carrying such loads.

    From a link via the Zerohedge article:

    http://washington.cbslocal.com/2018/...ckheed-martin/



    the blog: https://thefusionblog.quora.com/An-A...-Fusion-Effort



    Nobody has yet demonstrated a successful fusion reactor.
    We shall see.

    They may be planning to bring black budget tech out in the open.
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    I already got one.
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    It's a great idea to take a nuclear reactor airborne into something that might crash or be shot down.
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    Mr.Fusion(backtothefuture).gif

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We shall see.

    They may be planning to bring black budget tech out in the open.
    We already see. The article itself refutes the lying headline. No fighter jet was patented. A reactor was patented. No fighter jet is proposed. Lockheed says it could be mounted on an airplane, but says nothing about that airplane (with a shipping container-sized thing in the middle of it) being either fast or nimble enough to shoot down other aircraft.

    The headline is bull$#@!. End of sentence.
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    The embodiment as proposed in the patent won't be used on military ships. The fringe fields put out by the design are enormous. The Navy spends a lot of time and money to ensure their ships and submarines are magnetically invisible so that they are less susceptible to those types of mines and torpedo detonators.

    Then again LockMart makes the Little Crappy Ships which are not even Level 2 survivable like the frigates they replaced. The Navy also failed to down select on the program to ensure the Congressional pork remained, so maybe they'd buy this as well.

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    Just add guns and missiles...

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    We already see. The article itself refutes the lying headline. No fighter jet was patented. A reactor was patented. No fighter jet is proposed. Lockheed says it could be mounted on an airplane, but says nothing about that airplane (with a shipping container-sized thing in the middle of it) being either fast or nimble enough to shoot down other aircraft.

    The headline is bull$#@!. End of sentence.
    Patent FIG. 1 illustrates example applications for fusion reactors, according to certain embodiments.
    “As one example, one or more embodiments of fusion reactor 110 are utilized by aircraft 101 to supply heat to one or more engines (e.g., turbines) of aircraft 101. A specific example of utilizing one or more fusion reactors 110 in an aircraft is discussed in more detail below in reference to FIG. 2. In another example, one or more embodiments of fusion reactor 110 are utilized by ship 102 to supply electricity and propulsion power. While an aircraft carrier is illustrated for ship 102 in FIG. 1, any type of ship (e.g., a cargo ship, a cruise ship, etc.) may utilize one or more embodiments of fusion reactor 110. As another example, one or more embodiments of fusion reactor 110 may be mounted to a flat-bed truck 103 in order to provide decentralized power or for supplying power to remote areas in need of electricity. As another example, one or more embodiments of fusion reactor 110 may be utilized by an electrical power plant 104 in order to provide electricity to a power grid. While specific applications for fusion reactor 110 are illustrated in FIG. 1, the disclosure is not limited to the illustrated applications. For example, fusion reactor 110 may be utilized in other applications such as trains, desalination plants, spacecraft, submarines, and the like.”

    Patent FIG. 2 illustrates an example aircraft system utilizing fusion reactors, according to certain embodiments.
    “In general, fusion reactor 110 is a device that generates power by confining and controlling plasma that is used in a nuclear fusion process. Fusion reactor 110 generates a large amount of heat from the nuclear fusion process that may be converted into various forms of power. For example, the heat generated by fusion reactor 110 may be utilized to produce steam for driving a turbine and an electrical generator, thereby producing electricity. As another example, as discussed further below in reference to FIG. 2, the heat generated by fusion reactor 110 may be utilized directly by a turbine of a turbofan or fanjet engine of an aircraft instead of a combustor.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Patent FIG. 1 illustrates example applications for fusion reactors, according to certain embodiments.
    “As one example...


    In a patent for an aircraft, an aircraft is not used "as one example".

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Patent FIG. 2 illustrates an example aircraft system utilizing fusion reactors, according to certain embodiments.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Here is a complete, comprehensive and exhaustive list of all the world's operational four engine fighter aircraft since the invention of the airplane:
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    They now need to make it smaller so that it fits inside of a toaster
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    In a patent for an aircraft, an aircraft is not used "as one example".



    Here is a complete, comprehensive and exhaustive list of all the world's operational four engine fighter aircraft since the invention of the airplane:
    A patent application also usually tries to list as many possible applications as possible- even if they seem highly unlikely- so they are covered should somebody actually try the idea.

    This is actually an update of a patent application they filed in 2014. That one is still "pending".

    Link to the patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/US...2018%2f0047462
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 04-01-2018 at 01:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XNavyNuke View Post
    The embodiment as proposed in the patent won't be used on military ships. The fringe fields put out by the design are enormous. The Navy spends a lot of time and money to ensure their ships and submarines are magnetically invisible so that they are less susceptible to those types of mines and torpedo detonators.

    Then again LockMart makes the Little Crappy Ships which are not even Level 2 survivable like the frigates they replaced. The Navy also failed to down select on the program to ensure the Congressional pork remained, so maybe they'd buy this as well.

    XNN
    A power plant generating a minimum of 100 million degrees celsius and emitting large amounts of radiation would make a pretty easy target.

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    https://thebulletin.org/fusion-react...racked-be10699

    Fusion reactors: Not what they’re cracked up to be

    Fusion reactors have long been touted as the “perfect” energy source. Proponents claim that when useful commercial fusion reactors are developed, they would produce vast amounts of energy with little radioactive waste, forming little or no plutonium byproducts that could be used for nuclear weapons. These pro-fusion advocates also say that fusion reactors would be incapable of generating the dangerous runaway chain reactions that lead to a meltdown—all drawbacks to the current fission schemes in nuclear power plants.

    And, like fission, a fusion-powered nuclear reactor would have the enormous benefit of producing energy without emitting any carbon to warm up our planet’s atmosphere.

    But there is a hitch: While it is, relatively speaking, rather straightforward to split an atom to produce energy (which is what happens in fission), it is a “grand scientific challenge” to fuse two hydrogen nuclei together to create helium isotopes (as occurs in fusion). Our sun constantly does fusion reactions all the time, burning ordinary hydrogen at enormous densities and temperatures. But to replicate that process of fusion here on Earth—where we don’t have the intense pressure created by the gravity of the sun’s core—we would need a temperature of at least 100 million degrees Celsius, or about six times hotter than the sun. In experiments to date the energy input required to produce the temperatures and pressures that enable significant fusion reactions in hydrogen isotopes has far exceeded the fusion energy generated.

    But through the use of promising fusion technologies such as magnetic confinement and laser-based inertial confinement, humanity is moving much closer to getting around that problem and achieving that breakthrough moment when the amount of energy coming out of a fusion reactor will sustainably exceed the amount going in, producing net energy. Collaborative, multinational physics project in this area include the International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor (ITER) joint fusion experiment in France which broke ground for its first support structures in 2010, with the first experiments on its fusion machine, or tokamak, expected to begin in 2025.

    As we move closer to our goal, however, it is time to ask: Is fusion really a “perfect” energy source? After having worked on nuclear fusion experiments for 25 years at the Princeton Plasma Physics Lab, I began to look at the fusion enterprise more dispassionately in my retirement. I concluded that a fusion reactor would be far from perfect, and in some ways close to the opposite.

    Scaling down the sun. As noted above, fusion reactions in the sun burn ordinary hydrogen at enormous density and temperature sustained by an effectively infinite confinement time, and the reaction products are benign helium isotopes. Artificial (terrestrial) fusion schemes, on the other hand, are restricted to much lower particle densities and much more fleeting energy confinement, and are therefore compelled to use the heavier neutron-rich isotopes of hydrogen known as deuterium and tritium—which are 24 orders of magnitude more reactive than ordinary hydrogen. (Think of the numeral one with 24 zeroes after it.) This gargantuan advantage in fusion reactivity allows human-made fusion assemblies to be workable with a billion times lower particle density and a trillion times poorer energy confinement than the levels that the sun enjoys. The proponents of fusion reactors claim that when they are developed, fusion reactors will constitute a “perfect” energy source that will share none of the significant drawbacks of the much-maligned fission reactors.

    But unlike what happens in solar fusion—which uses ordinary hydrogen—Earth-bound fusion reactors that burn neutron-rich isotopes have byproducts that are anything but harmless: Energetic neutron streams comprise 80 percent of the fusion energy output of deuterium-tritium reactions and 35 percent of deuterium-deuterium reactions.

    Now, an energy source consisting of 80 percent energetic neutron streams may be the perfect neutron source, but it’s truly bizarre that it would ever be hailed as the ideal electrical energy source. In fact, these neutron streams lead directly to four regrettable problems with nuclear energy: radiation damage to structures; radioactive waste; the need for biological shielding; and the potential for the production of weapons-grade plutonium 239—thus adding to the threat of nuclear weapons proliferation, not lessening it, as fusion proponents would have it.

    In addition, if fusion reactors are indeed feasible—as assumed here—they would share some of the other serious problems that plague fission reactors, including tritium release, daunting coolant demands, and high operating costs. There will also be additional drawbacks that are unique to fusion devices: the use of fuel (tritium) that is not found in nature and must be replenished by the reactor itself; and unavoidable on-site power drains that drastically reduce the electric power available for sale.

    All of these problems are endemic to any type of magnetic confinement fusion or inertial confinement fusion reactor that is fueled with deuterium-tritium or deuterium alone. (As the name suggests, in magnetic confinement fusion, magnetic and electrical fields are used to control the hot fusion fuel—a material that takes an unwieldy and difficult-to-handle form, known as a plasma. In inertial confinement, laser beams or ion beams are used to squeeze and heat the plasma.) The most well-known example of magnetic confinement fusion is the doughnut-shaped tokamak under construction at the ITER site; inertial confinement fusion is exemplified by the laser-induced microexplosions taking place at the US-based National Ignition Facility.
    To sum up, fusion reactors face some unique problems: a lack of natural fuel supply (tritium), and large and irreducible electrical energy drains to offset. Because 80 percent of the energy in any reactor fueled by deuterium and tritium appears in the form of neutron streams, it is inescapable that such reactors share many of the drawbacks of fission reactors—including the production of large masses of radioactive waste and serious radiation damage to reactor components. These problems are endemic to any type of fusion reactor fueled with deuterium-tritium, so abandoning tokamaks for some other confinement concept can provide no relief.
    Lots more details at link.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    A power plant generating a minimum of 100 million degrees celsius and emitting large amounts of radiation would make a pretty easy target.
    If you have heat leakage you don't have sustained fusion reaction. Thermal plume would be no worse than fission reactors.

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    To be fair, anything being openly released via patent applications is usually a good indicator of where companies like Lockheed Martin, Boeing, ect were 5 to 10 years ago if those patents have any form of military applications.

    But not to derail the thread, but did anyone else read over the magnetic containment systems and fields discussed on those patent applications? Granted we're talking infant shoes but that potentially is beginning applied science to being able to use antimatter energy sources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...ed-fighter-jet
    "The patent, tilted “Encapsulating Magnetic Fields for Plasma Confinement,” is dated Feb. 15, 2018."
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    The article itself refutes the lying headline. No fighter jet was patented. A reactor was patented. No fighter jet is proposed. Lockheed says it could be mounted on an airplane, but says nothing about that airplane (with a shipping container-sized thing in the middle of it) being either fast or nimble enough to shoot down other aircraft.

    The headline is bull$#@!. End of sentence.
    It is a patent application only - even original title looks amended . . . could be years to get through a team of patent examiners.


    Last edited by Jan2017; 04-01-2018 at 09:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan2017 View Post
    It is a patent application only . . . could be years to get through a team of patent examiners.


    Or they could get special treatment:

    with latest reports suggesting the technology could be ready for production by 2019.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Or they could get special treatment:
    with latest reports suggesting the technology could be ready for production by 2019.
    Yep, the patent application process could be fast-tracked, but this article's author has already lost a bit of credibility for this topic.

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    This is an update for a patent filed in 2014.



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