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  1. #151
    I see the forum leftists (if not being politically-correct, I would say, Communists) are still hard at work.
    Last edited by LibertyEagle; 04-02-2018 at 02:20 PM.
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    Trump tweet: The US has no border protections. Mexico power is "absolute".

    "Mexico has the absolute power not to let these large 'Caravans' of people enter their country. They must stop them at their Northern Border, which they can do because their border laws work, not allow them to pass through into our country, which has no effective border laws. Congress must immediately pass Border Legislation, use Nuclear Option if necessary, to stop the massive inflow of Drugs and People. Border Patrol Agents (and ICE) are GREAT, but the weak Dem laws don't allow them to do their job. Act now Congress, our country is being stolen!"
    Of course if Trump decides to end any aid to Mexico or shut down NAFTA (which also involves Canada) Mexico could decide to let everybody freely pass through to the US.

    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 04-02-2018 at 02:43 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    I see the forum leftists (if not being politically-correct, I would say, Communists) are still hard at work.
    More misguided as opposed to communists. They want to make our community an even further marginalized group.

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    I can hear the freedom from America. All that liberty and freedom is just oozing from their pores!

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...-idUSKCN1H90C1

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    I can hear the freedom from America. All that liberty and freedom is just oozing from their pores!

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...-idUSKCN1H90C1
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    I can hear the freedom from America. All that liberty and freedom is just oozing from their pores!

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...-idUSKCN1H90C1
    BBBBBBBBut they will all vote LP if they come here.
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  9. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I'm getting sick of hearing the lie that all of the world's problems are America's fault, other countries have done plenty to cause their own problems.

    Even if you think the empire is responsible for everything wrong in the world that doesn't mean American citizens should have to eat the consequences, those who cause the problems have harmed us enough already.
    The end of the United States is planned.

    The ways in which the United States is planned to end is both internal and external. The goal is to cause an emotional reaction to the US, which people do not think logically about. Once the US is gone, the Writers of History will only focus on how the US ended, and not how it started or why it started off so well. Facts will be excluded to alter the perception of future readers that the US only acquired its wealth and power by greed and covet means, and not say anything about the US being a Symbol of Freedom, where the common man had an opportunity to not only provide for themselves, but to thrive.

    The US Govt is being construed as an Enemy to the people in order to incite either Civil War, or Collapse by voting in a new and more dangerous form of government that does not represent the people. We already know damn good and well the people are not represented by our government. A full scale collapse or regime change will only cement the replacement authority.

    Never will the people told who the people are that truly plan and invoke the collapse of the most free nation in the world. Every good thing the US govt has ever done will be brandished as a mistake, while its actual mistakes will spotlighted for all to see how much of a failure the model of freedom is. There are many targets. Monetary takeover, which has already taken place. Physical takeover, by replacing the existing population that knows of the power of freedom with those that demand an ever increasing govt to provide for them. The destruction of the Reputation of the United States is a major tool in propaganda against freedom. The US is a Symbol that is a threat to dangerous dominant men, and their goal is not just the collapse of the US, but what the US represents. The Symbol of Freedom will be demonized until people only believe government is their only path to survival, as dismal and bleek as their futures will ever be without the Light of Liberty cast by the Symbol of Freedom and equality for all.
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    Our central bank is not privately owned.

  10. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    The end of the United States is planned.

    The ways in which the United States is planned to end is both internal and external. The goal is to cause an emotional reaction to the US, which people do not think logically about. Once the US is gone, the Writers of History will only focus on how the US ended, and not how it started or why it started off so well. Facts will be excluded to alter the perception of future readers that the US only acquired its wealth and power by greed and covet means, and not say anything about the US being a Symbol of Freedom, where the common man had an opportunity to not only provide for themselves, but to thrive.

    The US Govt is being construed as an Enemy to the people in order to incite either Civil War, or Collapse by voting in a new and more dangerous form of government that does not represent the people. We already know damn good and well the people are not represented by our government. A full scale collapse or regime change will only cement the replacement authority.

    Never will the people told who the people are that truly plan and invoke the collapse of the most free nation in the world. Every good thing the US govt has ever done will be brandished as a mistake, while its actual mistakes will spotlighted for all to see how much of a failure the model of freedom is. There are many targets. Monetary takeover, which has already taken place. Physical takeover, by replacing the existing population that knows of the power of freedom with those that demand an ever increasing govt to provide for them. The destruction of the Reputation of the United States is a major tool in propaganda against freedom. The US is a Symbol that is a threat to dangerous dominant men, and their goal is not just the collapse of the US, but what the US represents. The Symbol of Freedom will be demonized until people only believe government is their only path to survival, as dismal and bleek as their futures will ever be without the Light of Liberty cast by the Symbol of Freedom and equality for all.
    And many members here are wittingly or unwittingly accomplices to that plan.
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  11. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    The end of the United States is planned.
    No, it isn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And many members here are wittingly or unwittingly accomplices to that plan.
    They must be punished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    The end of the United States is planned.

    The ways in which the United States is planned to end is both internal and external. The goal is to cause an emotional reaction to the US, which people do not think logically about. Once the US is gone, the Writers of History will only focus on how the US ended, and not how it started or why it started off so well. Facts will be excluded to alter the perception of future readers that the US only acquired its wealth and power by greed and covet means, and not say anything about the US being a Symbol of Freedom, where the common man had an opportunity to not only provide for themselves, but to thrive.

    The US Govt is being construed as an Enemy to the people in order to incite either Civil War, or Collapse by voting in a new and more dangerous form of government that does not represent the people. We already know damn good and well the people are not represented by our government. A full scale collapse or regime change will only cement the replacement authority.

    Never will the people told who the people are that truly plan and invoke the collapse of the most free nation in the world. Every good thing the US govt has ever done will be brandished as a mistake, while its actual mistakes will spotlighted for all to see how much of a failure the model of freedom is. There are many targets. Monetary takeover, which has already taken place. Physical takeover, by replacing the existing population that knows of the power of freedom with those that demand an ever increasing govt to provide for them. The destruction of the Reputation of the United States is a major tool in propaganda against freedom. The US is a Symbol that is a threat to dangerous dominant men, and their goal is not just the collapse of the US, but what the US represents. The Symbol of Freedom will be demonized until people only believe government is their only path to survival, as dismal and bleek as their futures will ever be without the Light of Liberty cast by the Symbol of Freedom and equality for all.
    The US must usher in global government first, before it is finally sacrificed. You always hear the progs talking about the US leading the global order. The dismal future we're heading to must erase any residue of rugged individualism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    The US must usher in global government first, before it is finally sacrificed. You always hear the progs talking about the US leading the global order. The dismal future we're heading too must erase any residue of rugged individualism.
    China is being considered as a replacement and the EU is auditioning for the part, fortunately neither one is up to the task, there will be more wars and schisms in the elite before we get close to world government.
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  15. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
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  16. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    I see the forum leftists (if not being politically-correct, I would say, Communists) are still hard at work.
    I don't see communists as a threat (if the mythical thing existed),, but there are a lot of socialists in both parties.. some use the rhetoric,, and the others change the wording. and a lot of confused fascists.

    ALL of them Authoritarian. Liberty is the minority.

    but if I have to choose between Commie Socialism,, or Fascist Socialism,,, well,, I'm not going to play.

    I don't think it really matters in the end who is running the Police State.. I'm not going to play.nice
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  17. #164
    Trump Pushing For Nafta Deal In Next Two Weeks
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...next-two-weeks


    gee... why the rush?

  18. #165
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Trump Pushing For Nafta Deal In Next Two Weeks
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...next-two-weeks


    gee... why the rush?
    He also threatened to kill NAFTA if Mexico doesn't do something about border security.

    I don't think a deal can be made.
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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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  19. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He also threatened to kill NAFTA if Mexico doesn't do something about border security.

    I don't think a deal can be made.
    Fine. Bi-Lateral agreements only... from scratch with some tight clauses and teeth.

  20. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Fine. Bi-Lateral agreements only... from scratch with some tight clauses and teeth.
    Yup.
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  21. #168
    If you keep walking away from negotiated treaties, countries will be less willing to negotiate new ones with you.



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  23. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    If you keep walking away from negotiated treaties, countries will be less willing to negotiate new ones with you.
    That might be a good thing.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  24. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    If you keep walking away from negotiated treaties, countries will be less willing to negotiate new ones with you.
    That is a good thing right now, we need less treaties not more.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  25. #171
    Big if true. Looks like Mexico may inforce their laws after all. This is from the reporter traveling with the caravan.

    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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  26. #172

    Phoney excuses to grant DACA amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post

    Lies, and more lies. The tweets are nonsense. President Trump has two basic powers to keep them from invading.

    1) US Constitution, Article IV Section 4 -- "Protect the States against invasion". The Militia, paid (organized) or unpaid (unorganized), take your pick and obey your oath of office as Commander In Chief.

    2) Immigration Law -- Illegal aliens are to be deported, do it!

    Quit lying and do the job that you swore an oath to do Trump! No legislative action is required at all, just pull your head out of your ass and get to it.
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  28. #174

    President Trump is obligated, by law, to stop the caravan invasion from Mexico

    See: Annual ‘Caravan’ of Central-American Asylum Seekers – Heading to U.S.-Mexico Border – Sparks Trump’s Concern


    April 2nd, 2018


    ”Alex Mensing, one of the US collaborators who works for Pueblo Sin Fronteras, started in the city of Tapachula, which is located in the state of Chiapas, Mexico, and borders Guatemala. The caravan of about 1,100 people is currently in Oaxaca, Mexico, about 420 miles from their starting point. Mensing said the migrants would turn themselves in and request asylum.


    Pueblo Sin Fronteras said they would not respond to Trump's tweet, but stated that the refugee caravan "is a movement made of people who were forced to flee their countries of origin due to persecution and violence."



    Note: that Pueblo Sin Fronteras means people without borders.


    Keep in mind our Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land. The fact is, our federal government is specifically charged with power:


    ”To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions” See Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15



    As President, and in compliance with our federal government’s duty to protect the United States against invasions, Trump should immediately call out the National Guard, place them on the border, block these invaders, and protect the United States against this pending invasion. To not block these invaders at our border and allow them entry into the United States will, by default, entitle them to stay while a long legal process takes place which essentially allows them to stay and burden American Citizens with the costs of their economic needs: food, shelter, clothing, public schooling, medical attention, including the costs of females giving birth.


    It’s time for President Trump to nip this madness in the bud, and do what is right for America’s citizens.



    JWK



    American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance the economic needs of millions of poverty stricken, poorly educated, low and unskilled aliens who have invaded America borders.


  29. #175

    Our President can exercise emergency powers as Commander in Chief!

    Quote Originally Posted by justoneman View Post
    This is a thread about the Resident's responsibility to enforce the law.


    As Commander in Chief, President Trump can exercise established emergency powers over our military and order them into action if, in his judgement, the common defense and general welfare of the United States are in jeopardy. In doing so, he must inform Congress within 48 hours of taking such action, and the troops cannot be committed for more than 60 days, unless Congress approves a longer time period. The President can also exercise an additional 30 days to re-deploy the troops.

    It’s time for President Trump to exercise his powers as Commander in Chief, and protect the United States and her citizens from this annual caravan invasion.

    JWK


    There was a time not too long ago in New York when the able-bodied were ashamed to accept home relief, a program created by Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1931 when he was Governor. Now, New York City and many other major cities are infested with countless government cheese factions from poverty stricken countries, who not only demand welfare, but use it to buy beer, wine, drugs, sex, and Lotto tickets.


  30. #176
    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post
    See: Annual ‘Caravan’ of Central-American Asylum Seekers – Heading to U.S.-Mexico Border – Sparks Trump’s Concern


    April 2nd, 2018


    ”Alex Mensing, one of the US collaborators who works for Pueblo Sin Fronteras, started in the city of Tapachula, which is located in the state of Chiapas, Mexico, and borders Guatemala. The caravan of about 1,100 people is currently in Oaxaca, Mexico, about 420 miles from their starting point. Mensing said the migrants would turn themselves in and request asylum.


    Pueblo Sin Fronteras said they would not respond to Trump's tweet, but stated that the refugee caravan "is a movement made of people who were forced to flee their countries of origin due to persecution and violence."



    Note: that Pueblo Sin Fronteras means people without borders.


    Keep in mind our Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land. The fact is, our federal government is specifically charged with power:


    ”To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions” See Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15



    As President, and in compliance with our federal government’s duty to protect the United States against invasions, Trump should immediately call out the National Guard, place them on the border, block these invaders, and protect the United States against this pending invasion. To not block these invaders at our border and allow them entry into the United States will, by default, entitle them to stay while a long legal process takes place which essentially allows them to stay and burden American Citizens with the costs of their economic needs: food, shelter, clothing, public schooling, medical attention, including the costs of females giving birth.


    It’s time for President Trump to nip this madness in the bud, and do what is right for America’s citizens.



    JWK



    American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance the economic needs of millions of poverty stricken, poorly educated, low and unskilled aliens who have invaded America borders.

    So we should sent our military into Mexico. Invade yet another foreign country.



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  32. #177
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    So we should sent our military into Mexico. Invade yet another foreign country.

    Trump succeeded in using diplomacy:

    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    Big if true. Looks like Mexico may inforce their laws after all. This is from the reporter traveling with the caravan.

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  33. #178
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    So we should sent our military into Mexico. Invade yet another foreign country.
    No, we just need to patrol the border and keep them out.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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  34. #179
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    No, we just need to patrol the border and keep them out.
    Which will also lead to keeping us in.
    There is no spoon.

  35. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Which will also lead to keeping us in.
    If the troops are on the border then they can't be used to tyrannize us, a wall would allow more of them to be stationed in the rest of the country.
    If you are worried about tyranny then you should want the military reduced but the remaining troops should be on the border.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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