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    Think You're Smart About Politics? You Might Be Libertarian

    A study of voters' tendencies toward emotional or analytical decisions confirms some stereotypes.

    You might think that politics is an area where being analytical is especially useful. If you do, well, I have news for you: Libertarians measure as being the most analytical political group. That’s according to something called the cognitive reflection test, which is designed to measure whether an individual will override his or her immediate emotional responses and give a question further consideration. So if you aren’t a libertarian, maybe you ought to give that philosophy another look. It’s a relatively exclusive club, replete with people who are politically engaged, able to handle abstract arguments and capable of deeper reflection.


    What else can we learn from this new study of political and analytical tendencies, conducted by Gordon Pennycook and David G. Rand of Yale University?

    For the 2016 election, one group that measured as especially nonanalytical was Democrats who crossed party lines and voted for Donald Trump. There is a stereotype of a less well-educated voter, perhaps both white and male, who reacts negatively and emotionally to Hillary Clinton, who decided to vote for Trump even if Trump’s actual policies will not prove in his best interest. For all the dangers of stereotyping, the study’s data are consistent with that picture.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...tarians-on-top


    Everything seems to check out. Libertarians are just smarter.



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    Chances are they would be smarter . They would be more likely to have basic knowledge of free markets , real money etc . Things most americans know nothing of .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    Everything seems to check out. Libertarians are just smarter.
    And for lack of analytical inclinations, no non-libertarian will read this.

    ...it's rather like proving the calculus on a planet inhabited by nothing but sea sponges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    Everything seems to check out. Libertarians are just smarter.
    And yet, they nominated Gary Johnson. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    And yet, they nominated Gary Johnson. lol
    Doh!
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    I tend to agree with emotion helping Trump win. Before we all start su..er..patting each other on the back, there was plenty of emotion to go around in "libertarian" circles as well as everywhere else.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    And the Democrats market heavily to them [emotion]. Emotion vs. logic is the key.

    If we look at the Democrats and Republicans in terms of the Myers-Briggs, Thinking vs. Feeling indicator, 75% of women are "Feeling", 75% of men are "Thinking".

    Thus as a simplified example, in a two Party system with a sterile environment free of marriage, family and other entanglements, women would probably be 75% Democrat, and men would be 75% Republican.

    Now this does not indicate a particular position on any given issue. Any issue can be argued from an emotional standpoint (Feeling) or a reasoning standpoint (Thinking). So the Democrats come at every issue from an emotional angle, while Republicans tend to come from a reasoning perspective. It an issue of style and focus, with a big portion of dividing into "us vs. them" thrown in.

    Good arguments for any given issue should come from both emotional and rational positions, thus the power of the two Parties is weakened.

    While the MBTI T/F trend is a statistical generalization, we should always remember that everyone is an individual, and that the percentages are not absolute. 25% of women are "Thinking", while 25% of men are "Feeling".
    It was an interesting election, with quite a bit of emotion. And an interesting twist where the Party of emotion had a cold, calculating robot (Hillary), and the Party of thinking had an emotional candidate (Trump).

    Hillary tries to play to emotion, but no matter how much she said "girl power" and "racists", no one believed her. She could not generate any emotional appeal. On the other hand, Trump catered mostly to emotion, and successfully generated it in huge amounts, both in those who cheered him, and those who detested him. It was possibly the most emotion driven election in history (albeit hard to determine without living through all of them).
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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    And yet, they nominated Gary Johnson. lol
    A calculated decision. Not a terribly good calculation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    A calculated decision. Not a terribly good calculation.
    Depending on what your objective is. LP is not a viable option? Done and done.



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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    And yet, they nominated Gary Johnson. lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    A calculated decision. Not a terribly good calculation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    I tend to agree with emotion helping Trump win. Before we all start su..er..patting each other on the back, there was plenty of emotion to go around in "libertarian" circles as well as everywhere else.



    It was an interesting election, with quite a bit of emotion. And an interesting twist where the Party of emotion had a cold, calculating robot (Hillary), and the Party of thinking had an emotional candidate (Trump).

    Hillary tries to play to emotion, but no matter how much she said "girl power" and "racists", no one believed her. She could not generate any emotional appeal. On the other hand, Trump catered mostly to emotion, and successfully generated it in huge amounts, both in those who cheered him, and those who detested him. It was possibly the most emotion driven election in history (albeit hard to determine without living through all of them).
    We need libertarians who can lead emotional sheeple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    And yet, they nominated Gary Johnson. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    And yet, they nominated Gary Johnson. lol
    Not great but at least I can stand to look at him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    And yet, they nominated Gary Johnson. lol
    lol LP has been LINO for a long time, tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    And yet, they nominated Gary Johnson. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    And yet, they nominated Gary Johnson. lol
    They should have gone with the naked guy.
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    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...us-authoritar/

    Former Republican Rep. Ron Paul on Wednesday blasted GOP presidential hopeful Donald Trump as a “dangerous” authoritarian on a power trip who won’t value civil liberties the way a U.S. president should.

    “I think he’s is a dangerous person,” said Mr. Paul, whose son, Sen. Rand Paul is running against Mr. Trump for the Republican presidential nomination.

    And a lot of people find him sort of funny, and love him, even Libertarian types,” Mr. Paul, who is now a registered Libertarian, lamented on Fox News Radio. “They like him because he’s so disruptive to the party system, and I enjoy that too. But I think he’s a man that if conditions deteriorate, which they can — see I work on the assumption that the world is no more stable than Greece, and if those conditions come, people want to be told what to do: ‘And I know what the answer is, and I’ll do this, and I am the man to this.’

    “And [Mr. Trump] comes across this very well, and people listen to him, and I believe he may be raising white horses someplace and he’s going to ride in,” Mr. Paul continued. “Because he is almost the opposite of a Libertarian, because it’s not like ‘I want to give you your freedom and your liberty to run your life as you choose. Your civil liberties are absolutely yours, you can’t hurt anybody, it’s your own money you can spend it any way you want.’ But he sounds like the person, ‘I know the answers and I’m going to do this and I’ve done this, I’ve done this, this and this.’”

    “An authoritarian?” Fox’s Alan Colmes asked.

    “He’s an authoritarian and that’s the way he claims he made all his money. So I see that as dangerous,” Mr. Paul responded.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/02/24/ron-...p-nominee.html

    The race for the White House has become "Trump-ism versus Sander-ism," said Paul, referring to Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders. He said both approaches are "not a whole lot different" in their wrongheadedness.

    Sanders wants to make the government bigger and Trump wants to be the government, said Paul, who unsuccessfully sought the GOP presidential nomination in 2008 and 2012. He also ran in a failed bid for the White House in 1988 as the nominee of the Libertarian Party.



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    When Ron Paul agrees with your anti-republican views, you quote him. Otherwise, what he says is the antithesis of your support of the Democrat Party positions.
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    Yes pro-liberty people tend to be more thoughtful than others, but are still susceptible to emotions and manipulation like everyone else (to a lesser degree though).
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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    And yet, they nominated Gary Johnson. lol
    Was the party infiltrated by intelligence agencies?

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    Libertarians are bad but anarchists are the worst. They think their smarter then everybody.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Libertarians are bad but anarchists are the worst. They think their smarter then everybody.
    Acshually, it's "They'r...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We need libertarians who can lead emotional sheeple.
    I've been saying that for years, but no one cares. Libertarians are very emotional about logic.
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