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    Judge says emoluments case against Trump can proceed in DC

    http://www.businessinsider.com/trump...-ruling-2018-3

    A federal judge on Wednesday ruled that a pair of attorneys general have legal standing to sue President Donald Trump for allegedly violating the Constitution, marking the first time such a lawsuit has cleared that legal hurdle.

    The suit alleges that Trump violated the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution by taking payments from foreign government officials via his Washington, DC, hotel.

    The ruling, which is likely to be appealed, was made by US District Judge Peter J. Messitte. If the ruling stands, Maryland Attorney General Brian Frosh and DC Attorney General Karl Racine may be able to seek Trump Organization documents related to Trump's Washington hotel.

    "While the Trump Organization is not a party to the lawsuit, the court's decision today does significantly narrow the scope of the case," the Trump Organization said in a statement to The Washington Post.

    The statement noted that the judge narrowed the scope of the suit to only encompass the DC hotel.

    "The court has yet to rule on several additional arguments, which we believe should result in a complete dismissal," the statement said.

    The attorneys general celebrated the ruling.

    "We won the first round! Our case moves forward!" Frosh wrote in a tweet.

    The Emoluments Clause bars public officials from receiving gifts or cash from foreign governments. Ethics experts and lawmakers have repeatedly raised concerns over the patronage of Trump's properties by foreign government officials. Trump, who passed along his business to his two adult sons and a top Trump Organization executive, maintains ties to the business. He did not fully divest from his business as experts had hoped.

    Trump pledged to donate all profits at his hotels from foreign government officials to the Treasury. The Trump Organization recently announced that money was donated last month.

    The attorneys general argue in the suit that Trump's refusal to cut ties with his businesses led to foreign officials directly paying his company. The lawsuit additionally alleges that Maryland and Washington, DC, have lost out on business opportunities as a result of foreign officials instead choosing to spend money at Trump properties.

    A federal judge tossed out a similar lawsuit earlier this year. The judge questioned whether action from Congress would be better to settle the emoluments issue, rather than the judiciary. But Messitte had a different interpretation, writing, "In absence of Congressional approval, this court holds that it may review the actions of the president to determine if they comply with the law."

    Last week, Trump was issued a summons in the case. The summons came as the suit was expanded to include his personal capacity as a businessman. His lawyers had three weeks to respond to the summons from when it was first issued.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 03-28-2018 at 01:44 PM.



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    Two Major Lawsuits Facing President Trump Hinge on This Constitutional Question

    http://time.com/5312522/donald-trump...summer-zervos/

    June 14, 2018

    President Donald Trump faces two very different lawsuits, but their outcomes could depend on the same unanswered constitutional question.

    On Thursday, New York Attorney General Barbara Underwood sued Trump and three of his children over allegedly misusing a family charity for personal business, such as paying off creditors.

    That same day, New York’s highest court rejected an appeal from Trump’s lawyers to dismiss or delay a defamation case brought by former “Apprentice” contestant Summer Zervos against Trump.

    The two cases are underpinned by the same contention: a sitting president can be subject to a civil lawsuit in a state court.

    As it turns out, that’s an unresolved question, and Trump’s lawyers have tried to use it to his advantage.

    Trump lawyer Marc Kasowitz argued in New York state court in early December that “state court can’t exercise any control over the president under any circumstances, and he argued that a motion to dismiss Zervos’ case is about “protecting the ability of the president to do his constitutionally mandated job.”

    In court filings in the Zervos case, Trump’s team has cited the Supreme Court’s 1982 decision in Nixon v. Fitzgerald, which held that the president has “absolute immunity” from being held liable for damages in civil lawsuits for conduct within the “outer perimeter” of his official presidential duties.

    “Because of the singular importance of the President’s duties,” the decision reads, “diversion of his energies by concern with private lawsuits would raise unique risks to the effective functioning of government.”

    But there are limits to the decision in Nixon v. Fitzgerald: the case only applied to civil suits in federal court, not state court, and only to civil suits related to official actions as president, not personal conduct.

    Indeed, in a later Supreme Court case, 1997’s Clinton v. Jones, the court furthered the understanding of that decision. In the 1997 case, in which former Arkansas state employee Paula Jones accused President Bill Clinton of sexual harassment, the Supreme Court said the Nixon v. Fitzgerald ruling on immunity from civil damages did not apply to “unofficial conduct” by the president.

    But again, that case only was limited to civil suits in federal court and did not address the question of bringing a similar case in state court.

    In fact, the Supreme Court explicitly decided not to decide that question, explaining that state court suits could raise different legal questions than the ones decided in Clinton v. Jones. “Because the Supremacy Clause makes federal law ‘the supreme Law of the Land,’ any direct control by a state court over the President, who has principal responsibility to ensure that those laws are ‘faithfully executed,’ may implicate concerns that are quite different from the interbranch separation of powers questions addressed here,” the majority opinion notes in a footnote. The power difference between state and federal court arises in part from the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution, which establishes that federal law bars states from interfering in federal functions.

    As it stands now, Trump cannot be held liable for civil damages in conduct related to his presidential powers, but he can be held liable in federal court for civil damages related to his personal conduct before he became president. And now with both the Zervos and the Trump Foundation suits pending, it seems likely that Trump’s presidency will lead to a clear decision on whether the president can be subject to a civil suit on personal conduct in state court.

    Zervos’ attorneys feel like the decision Thursday put the momentum on their side of the argument.

    “New York’s highest court has rejected Defendant’s motion for a stay,” Zervos’s attorney Mariann Wang tells TIME in a statement. “This is now the third time the courts have rejected Defendant’s effort to block the progress of this case. We look forward to continuing the discovery process and exposing the truth.”

    But a spokesperson for Kasowitz Benson Torres, the firm representing Trump, argued that the appeals court’s decision had nothing to do with the substantive legal question over whether Trump can be subject to these cases.

    “The New York State Court of Appeals’ decision today was on purely procedural grounds — that the order appealed from was not within that court’s jurisdiction because it was not the final order in the case,” the spokesperson said in a statement provided to TIME. “The Court of Appeals did not address the merits of the issue at stake here (an issue first raised by the U.S. Supreme Court in Clinton v. Jones) — namely, that, under the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution, state courts do not have jurisdiction over a sitting President.”

    Still, the progress in the Zervos case so far likely bodes well for the new case against the foundation moving forward. (These are far from the only cases facing Trump— he’s been sued numerous times since becoming president, and is involved in other high-profile cases including another defamation case brought by Stormy Daniels and a case involving alleged Emoluments Clause violations.) Stephen Vladeck, professor at the University of Texas School of Law, tweeted that the appeals court’s decision on Zervos “also cements the propriety of the major new suit by @NewYorkStateAG being brought in state—rather than federal—court.”



    Amid the news that the Zervos case can move forward, Trump reacted to the new foundation lawsuit by tweeting, “I won’t settle this case!”



    Even if courts find that Trump can be subject to both of these cases while he’s in office, presidents are entitled to deference in scheduling concerns and other burdens of litigation, so don’t expect either lawsuit to wrap up soon, legal experts caution.

    “This starts a process that is often long and involved anyway,” says Ross Garber, defense attorney at The Garber Group. “But particularly given that it involves a sitting president, it may be even longer and more involved.”

    In fact, the Paula Jones lawsuit lasted nearly four years. But depositions in the case about Clinton’s other relationships led to the uncovering of the Monical Lewinsky scandal, which ended with his impeachment in the House of Representatives.


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    Emoluments Lawsuit Against Trump Linked to Top Liberal Operative

    http://freebeacon.com/politics/emolu...ral-operative/

    June 16, 2018



    A watchdog organization linked to top liberal operative David Brock is involved with a lawsuit against President Donald Trump alleging that he has violated the Constitution's emoluments clause, which bars foreign governments from paying U.S. officials.

    A federal judge in the U.S. District Court of Greenbelt, Md. ruled this week that the suit filed last June may proceed, marking the first instance where litigation "of this kind has cleared the initial legal hurdle," the Washington Post reports.

    The suit, brought forth by Karl Racine, D.C.'s attorney general, and Brian Frosh, the attorney general from Maryland, both Democrats, alleges "violations by the President of two distinct yet related provisions of the U.S. Constitution that seek to make certain that he faithfully serves the American people, free from compromising financial entanglements with foreign and domestic governments and officials."

    The lawsuit mimics an earlier New York suit from the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) that was ultimately dismissed by a federal judge.

    The lawsuits are nearly identical because the organization is also quietly involved with the current suit against Trump.

    Noah Bookbinder, CREW's executive director, and Stuart McPhail, CREW's litigation counsel, are both listed on the original lawsuits beneath the attorney generals.

    David Brock, the Clinton ally who founded Media Matters for America, previously chaired CREW, which bills itself as a "nonpartisan" organization. Brock left his position in late 2016 so as to make the group appear less nakedly partisan.

    "Due to my stepped up political activities in the American Bridge opposition research super PAC, I decided to step off CREW’s board to ensure its public reputation for non-partisanship," Brock said in a statement at the time. "I’m very proud of the work CREW has accomplished during my two years on board, and its work is more relevant now than ever."

    Bookbinder and McPhail's listed address for CREW at the bottom of the lawsuit is the same location—including the same suite—as Brock's other entities including American Bridge and Media Matters.

    CREW did not respond to a request for comment on sharing an office location with Brock's other entities by press time.

    Confidential documents obtained by the Washington Free Beacon in early 2017 showed Brock planned to use CREW to file litigation and complains against Trump and Republicans.

    The documents were handed out to donors at a Florida retreat one month after Brock had officially stepped away from this position as director of CREW.

    "CREW will be the leading nonpartisan ethics watchdog group in a period of crisis with a President and administration that present possible conflicts of interest and ethical problems on an unprecedented scale," the memo states. "CREW will demand ethical conduct from the administration and all parts of government, expose improper influence from powerful interests, and ensure accountability when the administration and others shirk ethical standards, rules and laws."

    The organization said they would use "cutting-edge litigation" and an expanded legal team for their mission and would use reporters to "move major stories forward."

    "Already, top law firms and talented lawyers across the country, with specialties including civil litigation and FOIA, are volunteering to help with the effort," the memo states.

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    Good news. Everyone needs an emollient sometimes.


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    GOOD. NAIL HIM FOR EVERY CORRUPT IMPULSE IN HIS BODY.
    He is outrageously on the take, his dishonest greed is legendary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    GOOD. NAIL HIM FOR EVERY CORRUPT IMPULSE IN HIS BODY.
    He is outrageously on the take, his dishonest greed is legendary.
    How does it make him special?

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    timosman ---

    dude... never run for public office. period.

    Aratus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    timosman ---

    dude... never run for public office. period.
    No plans due to poor ROI.



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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    No plans due to poor ROI.
    Being a tad "poor boy, poor boy" is no excuse for being on thah take,
    being sorta wealthy does not innately rule this out. you like being glib.
    I get that. sometimes being sorta laid back is easy, sometimes it is not.

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    https://www.npr.org/2018/07/25/63230...wed-to-proceed

    Federal Lawsuit Against President Trump's Business Interests Allowed To Proceed

    In a blow to President Trump, a federal judge says a lawsuit that alleges Trump's business interests violate the Constitution can proceed.

    Federal District Judge Peter Messitte denied the Department of Justice's request to dismiss a case brought by the attorneys general of Maryland and the District of Columbia. The Emoluments Clause bars any president from personally profiting from his dealings with foreign governments — or even U.S. state governments.

    It's the first ruling in federal court to define "emolument," which goes undefined in the U.S. Constitution's two emoluments clauses.

    Messitte rejected the "cramped interpretation" of the term offered by the Justice Department. He wrote that the term applies to "any profit, gain or advantage" of value that Trump has gotten from foreign, the federal or domestic governments.

    "We continue to maintain that this case should be dismissed, a position that was shared by a New York court in a related case. The Justice Department is reviewing the order and determining next steps to continue vigorously defending the President," said Andy Reuss, a spokesman for the Justice Department.

    It's the second victory for Maryland Attorney General Brian Frosh and District of Columbia Attorney General Karl Racine, who were granted legal standing to sue Trump in March. They allege their jurisdictions are economically and financially harmed as political and diplomatic officials shift their business to Trump's downtown Washington, D.C. hotel from nearby convention centers owned by those governments.

    After opening shortly before the 2016 election, the Trump International Hotel has quickly became a favorite gathering place for President Trump's supporters, who frequently hold fundraisers and conferences there. Foreign governments have also frequently held events and put dignitaries up in the hotel.

    "The fact is, Trump is taking money from foreign governments," Maryland Attorney General Brian Frosh told reporters after a hearing in January. "He's taking money from the United States that's he's not entitled to, and he's also receiving payments from states — all that violate his oath of office."

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    If there are "high crimes" and "misdemeanors" being committed all over the map... Then... (!!!)

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    expect a Senate Trial...

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    https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1225812981935722498


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