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    David Hogg was at Home During the Parkland Shooting

    David Hogg was at Home During the Parkland Shooting

    By Danny Wolf - March 26, 2018



    In a recently released excerpt of a CBS video documentary with the students behind the March For Our Lives movement, David Hogg candidly admits he wasn’t at Marjory Douglas Stoneman High School during the shooting.

    He explains that he was at home, and adds that he grabbed his camera so he could get footage of the events to advance his aspiring future career in journalism.

    On the day of the shooting, I got my camera and got on my bike and rode as fast as I could three miles from my house to the school to get as much video and to get as many interviews as I could because I knew that this could not be another mass shooting.

    He doesn’t elaborate on why he was at home during the shooting, and admits he didn’t know most of the students who were killed.

    I didn’t know most of these people at a very personal level, but I wanted to make their voices heard and that’s what I’m really trying to do.

    These statements are in direct conflict with Hogg’s earlier interview with Time Magazine. Here’s an excerpt of that interview:

    When Hogg heard a “pop” while sitting in an AP environmental science class around 2:30 p.m. Wednesday, he told his teacher it sounded strangely like a gunshot. But there had been a fire drill that very morning and talk of a “Code Red” exercise to prepare for an active shooter. This must just be a surprise drill, he reasoned.

    The full CBS documentary is yet to be released, but the excerpt is now available. You can watch the video below, Hogg’s statements on being home during the shooting start right after the 4:30 mark.

    https://columbianpost.com/latest-new...land-shooting/
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    Damn. I hope it's true.

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    Those behind the shooting wouldn't want their own kids at risk.
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    This kid needs to go away. His 15 minutes of fame are up. The Taco Bell drive thru is backing up he needs to go back to work.

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    Is this a surprise?

    From exactly one month ago:

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    I believe he is a student there, but he certainly has career ambitions to be a leftist activist or CNN actor. There was an interview with him where he admitted that he didn't even know there was a real shooting at the school until he saw headlines. He was either no where near the shooting, or not even on campus at the time.
    That kid ranks right up there with Chuck Schumer and Adam Schiff on the "face you'd like to punch" meter.
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    Okay what the actual f***

    I never like to jump to conclusions I just don't have the mat for it ...BUT, this smells like a fking op bigger than BEAR $#@! and if it is heads should roll I mean that people should have their heads chopped off with a guillotine in public for punishment for treason.

    or if you prefer they can be hung as the law states, (like they follow any laws anyway).
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    The only thing I can think of that might square all this up is if he was in his AP Environmental Studies class at around 2:30, heard a 'pop', thought it was a drill, then once they saw the headlines and realized it was a shooting, he started video taping his classmates on his phone, then when they let everybody out he rode his bike home, got his high quality camera, rode his bike back and did interviews with students.. but why would the students still be at school? Still doesn't make a lot of sense, and it would be interesting if somebody could rip a hole in this theory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkr View Post
    Okay what the actual f***

    I never like to jump to conclusions I just don't have the mat for it ...BUT, this smells like a fking op bigger than BEAR sh it s*and if it is head should roll I mean that people should have their heads chopped off with a guillotine in public for punishment for treason.

    or if you prefer they can be hung as the law states, (like they follow any laws anyway).
    Firing squads: the ultimate ironic justice in this case.
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    Fake as a $3 bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The only thing I can think of that might square all this up is if he was in his AP Environmental Studies class at around 2:30, heard a 'pop', thought it was a drill, then once they saw the headlines and realized it was a shooting, he started video taping his classmates on his phone, then when they let everybody out he rode his bike home, got his high quality camera, rode his bike back and did interviews with students.. but why would the students still be at school? Still doesn't make a lot of sense, and it would be interesting if somebody could rip a hole in this theory.
    It's pretty simple. He was at home watching CNN, and when the headlines came on about a possible shooting at his school, he grabbed his camera and rode his bike to school, long after the fact. No doubt he was looking for a chance to get his face on CNN.
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    Well at least we have confirmed he wasn't a crisis actor as actors need to be on set.
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    why would he contradict himself now, on video? I don't think he is that stupid? or is he? This is an edited clip. This is bait. They will release the full version where he adds the needed context, then he will claim victim status once again to demonize any critics.

    Seriously if he wasn't at the school at the time, not a single other student would call him out on it publicly?
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    why would he contradict himself now, on video? I don't think he is that stupid? or is he? This is an edited clip. This is bait. They will release the full version where he adds the needed context, then he will claim victim status once again to demonize any critics.

    Seriously if he wasn't at the school at the time, not a single other student would call him out on it publicly?
    When this gets out to enough people, Youtube will just delete it like they did with his profanity-laden video acting like a little punk, which is no longer available. It will go down the memory hole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    why would he contradict himself now, on video? I don't think he is that stupid? or is he? This is an edited clip. This is bait. They will release the full version where he adds the needed context, then he will claim victim status once again to demonize any critics.

    Seriously if he wasn't at the school at the time, not a single other student would call him out on it publicly?
    Yeah I agree, such an obvious oversight wouldn't have slipped through. They're not going through all these hoops of media blanketing, rallies, etc just to screw up something so simple. Everyone should tread lightly with this, for sure.
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    update:

    *Update: After being supplied with further information from CBS via the Washington Examiner’s inquiry, it has come to our attention that CBS released the video segment out of context. Hogg was referring to his returning to the school that night to interview witnesses.

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    https://columbianpost.com/latest-new...land-shooting/

    Rule number 1 - If the headline of an article is in the form of a question, the answer is almost always "no".
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 03-26-2018 at 10:08 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    Seriously if he wasn't at the school at the time, not a single other student would call him out on it publicly?
    Seriously? They have but no media coverage and video is yanked off the net.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post

    Seriously if he wasn't at the school at the time, not a single other student would call him out on it publicly?
    How would we hear?

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    Seriously, my biggest fear is that someone decide to take matters into their own hands and beat the living crap (or worse) out of this kid. He certainly needs it, but making a martyr out of this punk would just give the left the ammo they need. Probably not a concern as I'll bet he has a well-armed security detail...

    It does drive me a little crazy how the media is falling all over themselves to promote this tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Original_Intent View Post
    Seriously, my biggest fear is that someone decide to take matters into their own hands and beat the living crap (or worse) out of this kid. He certainly needs it, but making a martyr out of this punk would just give the left the ammo they need. Probably not a concern as I'll bet he has a well-armed security detail...

    It does drive me a little crazy how the media is falling all over themselves to promote this tool.
    He is being groomed for bigger things:
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    J.D. Hogg:




    Huey Hogg:




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    David Hogg:
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcreature View Post
    update:
    *Update: After being supplied with further information from CBS via the Washington Examiner’s inquiry, it has come to our attention that CBS released the video segment out of context. Hogg was referring to his returning to the school that night to interview witnesses.
    What parent would allow this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The only thing I can think of that might square all this up is if he was in his AP Environmental Studies class at around 2:30, heard a 'pop', thought it was a drill, then once they saw the headlines and realized it was a shooting, he started video taping his classmates on his phone, then when they let everybody out he rode his bike home, got his high quality camera, rode his bike back and did interviews with students.. but why would the students still be at school? Still doesn't make a lot of sense, and it would be interesting if somebody could rip a hole in this theory.

    You mean sort of like it says in the article update"l"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TxRedneck View Post
    You mean sort of like it says in the article update"l"?
    Who could have predicted
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    David Hogg Wild



    BY: David Rutz
    March 27, 2018 5:00 am

    Stoneman Douglas High School shooting survivor David Hogg has become one of the faces of the young movement for gun control in the U.S., and he's hardly been subtle in his demands for sweeping changes to the nation's laws.

    From a profanity-laced interview with The Outline that called out "pathetic $#@!ers that want to keep killing our children," to saying Sen. Marco Rubio (R., Fla.) took $1.05 for the life of every student's life in Florida, to calling the National Rifle Association "child murderers," Hogg—who dealt with false accusations of being a crisis actor in the aftermath of the shooting—has taken to inflammatory rhetoric to get his point across.

    Don't expect Hogg to tone anything down; he told CNN on Monday he hasn't been "provocative enough."
    http://freebeacon.com/issues/david-hogg-wild/
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    What parent would allow this?
    My thought as well...

    I was in a school shooting freshmen year of high school. No way my parents would have let me ride my bike back to school after getting home. It would have been impossible anyway. We were locked up for hours until the police secured the scene then we were bussed to another school where everyone's parents were directed to pick us up.

    By time we got home it was pretty late and no way were the police letting anyone on the high school campus...
    Last edited by fcreature; 03-27-2018 at 06:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post


    https://columbianpost.com/latest-new...land-shooting/

    Rule number 1 - If the headline of an article is in the form of a question, the answer is almost always "no".
    That question mark was not there when I first posted the article.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    That question mark was not there when I first posted the article.
    I would then question the reliability of the author and his source, if he added it after the fact.

    It appears that the quote was taken out of context, that what he was referring to was him going back to the school later in the day, to get statements.

    This is too important to get wrong.

    False accusations, conjecture and conspiracy theories against this kid and their movement only serves to make them that much stronger and martyrs in the eyes of public opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    What parent would allow this?
    It strains credulity to think he would be able to get within 1000 yards of the place, what with every cop in a 200 mile radius hut hutting about after the fact, looking to get their beat on somebody.

    That said, I stand by what I said before, this is way too important to cloud the issue with half truths and conjecture and "maybes?"...there are enough firm facts to shoot these clowns down, no pun intended, without that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I would then question the reliability of the author and his source, if he added it after the fact.

    It appears that the quote was taken out of context, that what he was referring to was him going back to the school later in the day, to get statements.

    This is too important to get wrong.

    False accusations, conjecture and conspiracy theories against this kid and their movement only serves to make them that much stronger and martyrs in the eyes of public opinion.
    I am sure the author was pressured to change it. In David Hoggs own words he says this! Then it was said that CBS took it out of context. I'm with other people here who said, what parent would allow their child to go back to a school to take photos and talk to students after a shooting? I think the agenda is pretty clear here, this kid is protected to serve their purpose. Never let a good crisis go to waste...
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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