David Hogg was at Home During the Parkland Shooting

[shakey1]

That kid ranks right up there with Chuck Schumer and Adam Schiff on the "face you'd like to punch" meter.

I'm not a violent person, but yeah, this^^.

[fedupinmo]

[Lamp]

What a dumb $#@!..........

[Brian4Liberty]

update:

*Update: After being supplied with further information from CBS via the Washington Examiner’s inquiry, it has come to our attention that CBS released the video segment out of context. Hogg was referring to his returning to the school that night to interview witnesses.

That explanation would be consistent with an interview I saw with him at the time. He said he didn't know there was a shooting until he saw the headlines. So apparently a lot of kids went home thinking it was a drill. He saw the headline, realized there really was a shooting, and went back to the school to "get interviews" (be interviewed).

[nobody's_hero]

Seriously, my biggest fear is that someone decide to take matters into their own hands and beat the living crap (or worse) out of this kid. He certainly needs it, but making a martyr out of this punk would just give the left the ammo they need. Probably not a concern as I'll bet he has a well-armed security detail...

It does drive me a little crazy how the media is falling all over themselves to promote this tool.

I'm doing my best to try to ignore these kids, really. But my fellow Americans keep pushing for that 16th minute of fame.

[H_H]

This kid needs to go away.

Umm, no, absolutely not, because:

That kid ranks right up there with Chuck Schumer and Adam Schiff on the "face you'd like to punch" meter.

Think about it for a minute.

I look forward to hope for at least another 8 months of non-stop coverage of The Kids(TM). Another few marches. Perhaps their own hit primetime show: Boggs & Baldy.

Bring it, bring it, double down! The European-style socialists in the MEDIA have gone too far left, and, bigger problem, the country is starting to shift back K (rightward), so they don't realize their error. They don't realize they're seriously triggering some K-selected amygdalae. They're too far out of whack. So they have lost their ability to persuade the mainstream.

Partially, of course.

Obviously when your group controls everything, you still can exert some heavy-duty crowd-control power. Controlling everything is nice like that.

[Anti Federalist]

I am sure the author was pressured to change it. In David Hoggs own words he says this! Then it was said that CBS took it out of context. I'm with other people here who said, what parent would allow their child to go back to a school to take photos and talk to students after a shooting? I think the agenda is pretty clear here, this kid is protected to serve their purpose. Never let a good crisis go to waste...

The author of the article has now confirmed that the comment was taken out of context by CBS.

*Update: After being supplied with further information from CBS via the Washington Examiner’s inquiry, it has come to our attention that CBS released the video segment out of context. Hogg was referring to his returning to the school that night to interview witnesses.

https://columbianpost.com/latest-new...land-shooting/

[Anti Federalist]

I think the agenda is pretty clear here, this kid is protected to serve their purpose

Of course the kid is protected and serving an agenda.

You do not disprove that with easily discredited bull$#@! though.

That only improves his position, makes him more credible and weakens our already weak and minority point of view.

This is too important and too critical to $#@! up, between disheartened, disgruntled and asleep patriots, about to be gutted by this scatterbrained fraud in the White House and an army GOP Quislings and traitors in the House and Senate, we're on the verge of losing years of progress on the gun rights front, THE ONLY PROGRESS ON INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY THAT CAN ARGUABLY BE SAID TO HAVE MADE GAINS OVER THE LAST THREE OR FOUR DECADES, all driven by a bunch of Bolshevik kids and their enablers.

These people need to be shouted down, loudly, boldly and with facts, not with tales of George Soros Boogeymen and out of context quotes that mean something completely different than what they actually mean.

[angelatc]

Seriously, my biggest fear is that someone decide to take matters into their own hands and beat the living crap (or worse) out of this kid. He certainly needs it, but making a martyr out of this punk would just give the left the ammo they need. Probably not a concern as I'll bet he has a well-armed security detail...

It does drive me a little crazy how the media is falling all over themselves to promote this tool.

I have to keep reminding myself that he is a 17 year old kid who is in way over his head. There is a look in his eyes that isn't normal though. When his 15 minutes are over, I hope he doesn't start shooting people.

[pcosmar]

I have to keep reminding myself that he is a 17 year old kid who is in way over his head. There is a look in his eyes that isn't normal though. When his 15 minutes are over, I hope he doesn't start shooting people.

17 or 24,, he is deeply entrenched and invested in this.. And I suspect his father is complicit if not a driving force.

That would make him a political asset of the FBI.. and Agent of the FBI. (Agent Provocateur )

and complicit with a Media Campaign,, Connected with CNN.. which makes him an agent of the Government pushing an agenda.

No Sympathy for what he reaps.

[parocks]

why would he contradict himself now, on video? I don't think he is that stupid? or is he? This is an edited clip. This is bait. They will release the full version where he adds the needed context, then he will claim victim status once again to demonize any critics.

Seriously if he wasn't at the school at the time, not a single other student would call him out on it publicly?

Yup. Stay away from this one.

He was at the school - during the day - then went home - and then went on TV. School typically ends at what, 3 pm? And TV cameras started showing up - and then they stayed. It was dark out when he was giving interviews. Night time. School, home, and then back to school.

There are a lot of lies in all of this. This is not the lies. Somebody is fcking up here.

[Swordsmyth]

17 or 24,, he is deeply entrenched and invested in this.. And I suspect his father is complicit if not a driving force.

That would make him a political asset of the FBI.. and Agent of the FBI. (Agent Provocateur )

and complicit with a Media Campaign,, Connected with CNN.. which makes him an agent of the Government pushing an agenda.

No Sympathy for what he reaps.

^^^THIS^^^

Those time travel theorists who debate the morality of killing Hitler as a child might be debating whether killing Hogg would be justified 75 years from now.

[Influenza]

^^^THIS^^^

Those time travel theorists who debate the morality of killing Hitler as a child might be debating whether killing Hogg would be justified 75 years from now.

LOL can i have that rep back that i gave u 30 min ago

[Swordsmyth]

LOL can i have that rep back that i gave u 30 min ago

I didn't say it was moral to kill him now, I would insist it isn't but we may be looking at the next Hitler in his larval stage.

[Influenza]

I didn't say it was moral to kill him now, I would insist it isn't but we may be looking at the next Hitler in his larval stage.

wow we sure got a lot of future hitlers in our country

[Swordsmyth]

wow we sure got a lot of future hitlers in our country

Fake News.

However we do have many budding NAZIs, almost all Demoncrats, a little less than half of Independents and some Republicans.
Hogg is a potential Hitler not just a NAZI because he has the connections and is being groomed for it.

[donnay]

Anti-Gun Activist David Hogg Raises Some Eyebrows After Recent Interview (VIDEO)

by Cristina Laila March 26, 2018

Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School student, David Hogg raised some eyebrows after it appears he told CBS News an under reported version about what transpired on the day Nikolas Cruz went on a shooting spree on February 14th.

Hogg initially told the media he was in his AP Environmental Science class when he heard a “pop” sound and immediately recognized it as a gunshot.

The 17-year-old student describes being huddled in a hot closet with other students during the shooting; he even filmed himself with a camera cell phone.

In a new CBS documentary about the Parkland students called “39 Days,” which aired on Saturday, Hogg says on the day of the shooting he grabbed his camera and quickly rode his bike 3 miles from his house to the school to get interviews.



CBS transcript:

6 HOURS AFTER THE RALLY
Delaney Tarr: It wasn’t even like an intentional — we all grouped together. It was – we all had these different things that we were saying and different things we were doing that people were responding to. And that was just kind of a natural push to get us to come together and for us to become, like, a united force.

DAVID HOGG: On the day of the shooting, I got my camera and got on my bike and road as fast as I could three miles from my house to the school to get as much video and to get as many interviews as I could because I knew that this could not be another mass shooting.

Hogg also admits he didn’t personally know many of the students who died that day.

DAVID HOGG: I didn’t know most of these people at a very personal level, but I wanted to make their voices heard and that’s what I’m really trying to do.

CBS should have cleared up the context.

This version has been overlooked by most of the media. Vox was first to report this version of the story:

The evening after the shooting, Hogg says, he biked up to the school, where the media was still camped out. This time, he put himself in front of the camera, making his first — but not final — plea for an end to mass shootings. He made another on CNN on Thursday morning, calling on lawmakers to “get something done.”

In an interview with TIME Magazine on the day of the shooting, Hogg says all he could think of during the shooting was “pull out my camera because if we all die the camera survives.”

Hogg told TIME in the hours following the ordeal. “And the only thing I could think of was, pull out my camera and try telling others. As a student journalist, as an aspiring journalist, that’s all I could think: Get other people’s stories on tape. If we all die, the camera survives, and that’s how we get the message out there, about how we want change to be brought about.”

In David Hogg’s interview with CBS he says he jumped on his bike with his camera and rode as fast as he could from his house to the school to get interviews.

Perhaps CBS should’ve clarified the timeline to put this into context.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018...zen.yandex.com

[Influenza]

Fake News.

However we do have many budding NAZIs, almost all Demoncrats, a little less than half of Independents and some Republicans.
Hogg is a potential Hitler not just a NAZI because he has the connections and is being groomed for it.

I can't speak for the other issues, but I've seen many polls about universal background checks and I've even seen them as high as 97% in favor. And probably not the kind of background checks that dylan roof was subject to - basically none at all because of the maximum waiting period. If you aren't in favor of universal background checks you might be a paranoid schizophrenic.

[Swordsmyth]

I can't speak for the other issues, but I've seen many polls about universal background checks and I've even seen them as high as 97% in favor. And probably not the kind of background checks that dylan roof was subject to - basically none at all because of the maximum waiting period. If you aren't in favor of universal background checks you might be a paranoid schizophrenic.

Anti-gunners are the paranoids.

[Influenza]

Anti-gunners are the paranoids.

that's rich coming from the guy who thinks there's a conspiracy around every corner

[Swordsmyth]

that's rich coming from the guy who thinks there's a conspiracy around every corner

Even paranoids have real enemies.

People kill people, the tool doesn't matter and shouldn't be restricted, especially since it doesn't work anyway.

[Influenza]

Even paranoids have real enemies.

People kill people, the tool doesn't matter and shouldn't be restricted, especially since it doesn't work anyway.

The tool certainly does matter, lmao. You don't exactly see dozens of people being killed by lone wolves with knives. You say it shouldn't be restricted because it doesn't work, but... it does work. Look at every other first world country and compare the homicide by firearm rate. And then compare the general homicide rate. Your argument simply doesn't hold up when you look at the numbers.

A far more compelling argument is: no gun should be blanket banned because freedom, which is an argument that I agree with. But to say that there shouldn't be background checks is just $#@!ing lunacy.

[Swordsmyth]

The tool certainly does matter, lmao. You don't exactly see dozens of people being killed by lone wolves with knives. You say it shouldn't be restricted because it doesn't work, but... it does work. Look at every other first world country and compare the homicide by firearm rate. And then compare the general homicide rate. Your argument simply doesn't hold up when you look at the numbers.

A far more compelling argument is: no gun should be blanket banned because freedom, which is an argument that I agree with. But to say that there shouldn't be background checks is just $#@!ing lunacy.

Those lies have been debunked over and over.

[dannno]

But to say that there shouldn't be background checks is just $#@!ing lunacy.

Is it in the Constitution?

[Influenza]

Those lies have been debunked over and over.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ted_death_rate

Which lies?

Country (homicide by firearm) (overall intentional homicide rate)
US (3.5) (4.88)
France (0.21) (1.58)
UK (0.06) (0.92)
Italy (0.35) (0.78)
Australia (0.18) (0.98)
Japan (0.00) (0.31)
South Korea (0.02) (0.74)

As you can see, no country's overall intentional homicide rate even comes close to the US homicide by firearm rate. An analysis of the data will tell you that murderers choose to do their murdering with other tools in those countries, but they are far less prolific.

Or are the transparent sources of wikipedia lying to us? (conspiracy?)

[Influenza]

Is it in the Constitution?

Don't think so, but of all the $#@! the gov. does that's against the constitution, it's kind of weird to get hung up on one thing that makes sense

[Swordsmyth]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ted_death_rate

Which lies?

Country (homicide by firearm) (overall intentional homicide rate)
US (3.5) (4.88)
France (0.21) (1.58)
UK (0.06) (0.92)
Italy (0.35) (0.78)
Australia (0.18) (0.98)
Japan (0.00) (0.31)
South Korea (0.02) (0.74)

As you can see, no country's overall intentional homicide rate even comes close to the US homicide by firearm rate. An analysis of the data will tell you that murderers choose to do their murdering with other tools in those countries, but they are far less prolific.

Or are the transparent sources of wikipedia lying to us? (conspiracy?)

There are other causes of the homicide rate difference, murders have gone down at the same time that gun ownership has gone up.

(and other countries do lie about their homicide rate)

[H_H]

Look at every other first world country and compare the homicide by firearm rate.

Does South Africa count as "First World"?

It sure used to.

Hmm, maybe we should be looking at the rate of some other factor as an explanation for varying violence levels.

[H_H]

Country (homicide by firearm) (overall intentional homicide rate)
US (3.5) (4.88)
France (0.21) (1.58)
UK (0.06) (0.92)
Italy (0.35) (0.78)
Australia (0.18) (0.98)
Japan (0.00) (0.31)
South Korea (0.02) (0.74)

Excellent!

I wonder if even more insight could be gained by further examining the copious data that is, for better or worse, at our fingertips?

Does New Hampshire count as a first world country?

Does Louisiana? (Should it?)

I wonder if there's any difference in homicide rate between those two countries.

And if so, hmm, I wonder why.

[Influenza]

Is it in the Constitution?

Actually I changed my mind, a "well-regulated militia" would certainly have some screening process of who can and cannot be part of said militia. You would definitely have to amend the Constitution to blanket ban any firearm, which, ironically we do, but I don't think you would need to to justify background checks.