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    High schoolers still like their guns, even after Parkland

    High schoolers still like their guns, even after Parkland

    They’re young, fierce and — at least for the moment — the most prominent voices in America’s debate over guns.

    But not all members of “Generation Columbine” cling to the rhetoric making household names out of some of their peers, those students calling for tighter gun control after the deadly Feb. 14 shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla.

    Many American high schoolers do not blame school shootings on guns and don't argue the answer is tighter restrictions on firearms. It's a view at odds with many of their classmates, yet born from the same safety concerns.

    “There’s many things that go into a solution for this, and it’s not guns,” said Melanie Clark, an 18-year-old high school senior from Tallahassee. “We’re definitely in the minority for believing that it’s not guns.”

    As gun-control advocates their age gain popularity and others cast their generation as anti-firearm, pro-gun students feel at times overlooked. But polling suggests young people aren’t overwhelmingly for gun control.

    A USA TODAY/Ipsos poll taken after the Parkland shooting found fewer than half of students 13 to 17 think tightening gun laws and background checks would prevent mass shootings. The Pew Research Center, in an April 2017 poll, found 39% of people 18-29 said protecting gun rights is of chief importance. Compare that to 58% who favor gun control.

    Pro-gun high school students told USA TODAY the school shooting problem is complex, but they maintain guns aren’t the problem. They say more can be done as it relates to school security, mental health and background checks. Some argue those calling for gun control are uninformed about and unfamiliar with firearms.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...and/444834002/
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    BTW, this really needs to not stick..


    'Generation Columbine' has never known a world without school shootings

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ngs/361656002/
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Besides the fact that columbine happened 19 years ago so almost no school age kid was even alive, let alone old enough to have been cognizant of it happening, that's just a stupid title.

    Although that's probably one of Roger Moore's movie's that gun advocates can actually agree with. It makes as much sense to blame the first hour bowling class as anything else for what caused those columbine kids to do what they did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpitcher View Post
    Besides the fact that columbine happened 19 years ago so almost no school age kid was even alive, let alone old enough to have been cognizant of it happening, that's just a stupid title.

    Although that's probably one of Roger Moore's movie's that gun advocates can actually agree with. It makes as much sense to blame the first hour bowling class as anything else for what caused those columbine kids to do what they did.
    It comes from the title of the article:

    'Generation Columbine' has never known a world without school shootings

    They call them that because they have "never known a world without school schootings"

    Nevermind that school shootings peaked in the early 90s and are way down in comparison.

    But ya, there is no way "Generation Columbine" is going to stick. Sorry, school shootings suck but they do not define or have much impact on the day to day lives of these kids besides for a week or two maybe after a big one happens. It's a total maneuver by the gun control lobby to try and make it that way.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by kpitcher View Post
    Besides the fact that columbine happened 19 years ago so almost no school age kid was even alive, let alone old enough to have been cognizant of it happening, that's just a stupid title.

    Although that's probably one of Roger Moore's movie's that gun advocates can actually agree with. It makes as much sense to blame the first hour bowling class as anything else for what caused those columbine kids to do what they did.


    I disagree with this movie. Christopher Lee was SAS, and he had not only learned all manner of weapons, but also killed men in close quarters combat. Christopher Lee should have won their duel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It comes from the title of the article:

    'Generation Columbine' has never known a world without school shootings

    They call them that because they have "never known a world without school schootings"

    Nevermind that school shootings peaked in the early 90s and are way down in comparison.

    But ya, there is no way "Generation Columbine" is going to stick. Sorry, school shootings suck but they do not define or have much impact on the day to day lives of these kids besides for a week or two maybe after a big one happens. It's a total maneuver by the gun control lobby to try and make it that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    The SSRI Generation. ??
    Not bad, but it bleeds a lot into the millennial generation.
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    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    BTW, this really needs to not stick..


    'Generation Columbine' has never known a world without school shootings

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ngs/361656002/
    Everyone can say that. They weren't exactly a new thing when the University of Texas Clock Tower event happened in 1966.
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    I'd rather be in the 'Texas A&M generation', old enough to remember when students and other members of the community took out their hunting rifles to suppress Whitman long enough for officers to make their way up the tower steps and end the threat.

    Sadly I was born into the worthless 'me first' millennial generation.
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    It started silly.
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