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    Trump furious over leak of warning to not congratulate Putin

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/21/polit...ons/index.html


    President Donald Trump was infuriated after it quickly leaked that he had been directly instructed by his national security advisers in briefing materials not to congratulate Russian President Vladimir Putin on his recent election victory during their call Tuesday morning, a source familiar with the President's thinking said.

    Trump was fuming Tuesday night, asking his allies and outside advisers who they thought had leaked the information, noting that only a small group of staffers have access to those materials and would have known what guidance was included for the Putin call, the source said.
    According to the source, the incident resurfaces his long-held belief there are individuals inside his administration -- especially in the national security realm -- who are actively working to undermine him.

    White House chief of staff John Kelly also is furious that a confidential presidential briefing became public knowledge, a White House official said, and intends to address the matter Wednesday as aides try to figure out who disclosed the warning.

    "If this story is accurate, that means someone leaked the President's briefing papers. Leaking such information is a fireable offense and likely illegal," another senior White House official told CNN Wednesday.

    The Washington Post first reported Tuesday that Trump congratulated Putin despite warnings from multiple national security advisers and briefing materials that said "DO NOT CONGRATULATE." The White House declined to officially comment to CNN on the matter, with an official adding that they "cannot comment on alleged classified deliberative documents allegedly provided to the President."

    The President often makes calls to foreign leaders while he is still in the residence during what has been dubbed "executive time." National security adviser H.R. McMaster has been known to join Trump in the residence during these calls, and was present during his Tuesday morning call with Putin. According to the public schedule released by the White House Tuesday, the President was not scheduled to be in the West Wing until noon, when he greeted the Saudi crown prince.

    The leak, which one source said contributes to the ongoing atmosphere of paranoia in the West Wing, irked White House aides as well. Though the reaction has been described as "rattled," a White House official said it is more like anger and disappointment.

    "This is unacceptable," the White House official said, speaking about the leak that some believe was an attempt to embarrass the President and McMaster. Another called it "ridiculous."

    One of the White House officials described anger and disappointment in the West Wing over the leak.

    It is still unclear if Trump actually read the guidance that was given to him by his advisers. Multiple officials have noted that he often follows his own path during his calls with world leaders. The substance of the call was not seen as a major deal by national security staffers, but the leak certainly was.

    Another White House official didn't dispute to CNN Tuesday the language on the notes provided by members of Trump's National Security Council, but said Trump didn't read or see the notecard. The official added that Trump often disregards advice in calls with foreign leaders.

    Trump's comments drew significant criticism among US politicians, including by Arizona GOP Sen. John McCain, a noted Russia hawk, who said "an American president does not lead the free world by congratulating dictators on winning sham elections."



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    President Donald Trump was infuriated after it quickly leaked that he had been directly instructed by his national security advisers in briefing materials not to congratulate Russian President Vladimir Putin on his recent election victory during their call Tuesday morning, a source familiar with the President's thinking said.


    "A source familiar with the President's thinking." LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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    Such feeble little minds who attribute Russia as a dominating factor in GOP politics? Not a word about Israel.


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    That is the diplomatic thing to do. There are tons of stupid things Trump does, but the obsession on this issue tells me that someone really wants another unnecessary war.
    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    That is the diplomatic thing to do. There are tons of stupid things Trump does, but the obsession on this issue tells me that someone really wants another unnecessary war.
    Exactly.
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    It's pretty bad when you can't pin Donnie Dumbass on the things he actually does, but rather make stuff up.




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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    Every time the left and the Neocons beat the drums for cold and hot wars with Russia again indicates why it was and still is necessary to keep them out of power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Every time the left and the Neocons beat the drums for cold and hot wars with Russia again indicates why it was and still is necessary to keep them out of power.
    Says the guy who spent the best part of 2016 cussing and belittling people for not wanting to elect a Democrat-turned-neocon who is now in power.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    "The Washington Post first reported Tuesday that Trump congratulated Putin despite warnings from multiple national security advisers and briefing materials that said "DO NOT CONGRATULATE.' "


    ​Orders from Bibi...

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Says the guy who spent the best part of 2016 cussing and belittling people for not wanting to elect a Democrat-turned-neocon who is now in power.
    Did not happen and in fact was your tactic against anyone agreeing with certain specific aspects of Trump's platform discussed during that news cycle. Here we are 2018 and you still can't let it go with your pathetic witch hunt polluting every thread.

    As for that later part Hillary is still beating the war drums with Russia to this day. Despite Trump's flaws, on this issue we are far better off with Trump standing against the Neocon war mongers.

    Last edited by kahless; 03-21-2018 at 03:34 PM.

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    Trump must be doing something right if all those snowflakes are melting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Trump must be doing something right if all those snowflakes are melting.
    Except that, as we can see, the snowflakes that are melting are the ones who used to be his fans.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Except that, as we can see, the snowflakes that are melting are the ones who used to be his fans.
    The Neocons were always #nevertrumpers like you. Maddogpac campaigns against the GOP. How did they used to be his fans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    The Neocons were always #nevertrumpers like you. Maddogpac campaigns against the GOP. How did they used to be his fans?
    1. Does that include Pompeo? How about John Bolton--remember there were two kinds of Trump trolls in 2016, those who were paid by Bolton and those dumb enough to do volunteer work for Bolton. Neocon nevertrumpers my ass. We told you and told you and told you how we knew you were getting suckered.

    2. Who was talking about Mad Dog? Do I look like GoldHydrogenTwenty to you? The only melting snowflakes I see in this thread you'd need a mirror to gaze at.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 03-21-2018 at 04:16 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.



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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    1. Does that include Pompeo? How about John Bolton--remember there were two kinds of Trump trolls in 2016, those who were paid by Bolton and those dumb enough to do volunteer work for Bolton. Neocon nevertrumpers my ass. We told you and told you and told you how we knew you were getting suckered.

    2. Who was talking about Mad Dog? Do I look like GoldHydrogenTwenty to you?
    Yes, Pompeo was a #NeverTrumper

    Still, in a year in which a political novice can win a major party nomination, and a socialist can compete on the other side, activists insist a viable independent candidacy is no longer just a pipe dream of the disaffected.“Something unique is happening,” said Charlie Wheelan, a founder of the Centrist Project, a group that seeks to recruit and support independent political candidates. “What we don’t know is how the chapter ends.”

    That optimism has prompted some Republicans and conservatives to continue a frantic search for a true independent as an alternative to Trump and Clinton — a candidate who could run in at least some states, either winning outright or blocking the major candidates from winning an Electoral College majority.

    Names have surfaced: Mitt Romney, the two-time presidential candidate, or Sen. Ben Sasse of Nebraska. Former Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma is getting a look.
    “There are folks out talking about it,” said U.S. Rep. Mike Pompeo, a Kansas Republican. “Actively, to this very moment. We’ll see how it unfolds.”


    http://www.kansascity.com/news/polit...e80387377.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Do I look like GoldHydrogenTwenty to you?
    Who is that? A rapper?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Says the guy who spent the best part of 2016 cussing and belittling people for not wanting to elect a Democrat-turned-neocon who is now in power.
    Did not happen and in fact was your tactic against anyone agreeing with certain specific aspects of Trump's platform discussed during that news cycle. Here we are 2018 and you still can't let it go with your pathetic witch hunt polluting every thread.
    Oh, of course. You spent the entire primary season hanging around randpaulforums.com because you were all for Rand Paul, right? You weren't trolling at all...

    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Each cycle all the other Republicans were hard core NAFTA and free trade agreement candidates. Those that opposed had no where else to go other than to hold their nose for Rand or Ron since at least they said these agreements violate national sovereignty. It was only a matter of time a nationalist or protectionist candidate entered the race the average folks would flock to.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    1. Does that include Pompeo? How about John Bolton--remember there were two kinds of Trump trolls in 2016, those who were paid by Bolton and those dumb enough to do volunteer work for Bolton. Neocon nevertrumpers my ass. We told you and told you and told you how we knew you were getting suckered.
    See post above.

    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    "We told you and told you and told you how we knew you were getting suckered".
    You mean threads where people here told you and told you we know what Trump is all about but it was worth it compared to the alternative with multiple policy reasons listed but you lost your $#@! anyway? History so far has proven us right despite the negatives.

    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    2. Who was talking about Mad Dog?
    I went with the assumption you were not hearing voices since that was the only possibility in the thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    The only melting snowflakes I see in this thread you'd need a mirror to gaze at.
    I am a melting snowflake because I agree with Trump and are against the Neocons war mongering? So now we are supposed to be pro-war because you are anti-Trump?
    Have you have completely lost your mind?

    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Do I look like GoldHydrogenTwenty to you?
    Think I got my answer to that last question. Like anyone here would remember an old RPF post of you giving Auh20 that nickname.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Like anyone here would remember an old RPF post of you giving Auh20 that nickname.
    He gave himself that name.

    It's a common troll trick. Goldwater--AuH2O--was a good libertarian and a popular poster who lost interest in the forum not long before GoldHydrgenTwenty--AuH20--showed up. So, in order to blend in and hopefully be mistaken for AuH2O, he named himself AuH20.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    He gave himself that name.

    It's a common troll trick. Goldwater--AuH2O--was a good libertarian and a popular poster who lost interest in the forum not long before GoldHydrgenTwenty--AuH20--showed up. So, in order to blend in and hopefully be mistaken for AuH2O, he named himself AuH20.
    Actually the first guy joined in 2007, the second guy joined in 2009. Both were active through at least 2015.

    Here's your "good libertarian"

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-who-can-t-win

    Can we reserve the educational campaigns for candidates who can't win?

    Don't get me wrong, I'm opposed to the CRA, the Fair Housing Act, Restaurant Smoking bans and the like. But shouldn't we stick to taxes, spending, ObamaCare and Cap-and-Trade in order to get Rand elected? I don't even want to hear him talking about the Fed or Foreign Policy, frankly. Let him get into office and be a good vote for our issues rather than forcing the electorate to vet every single one of the liberty movements more "fringe," and often politically untenable positions.

    It was good for Ron to raise awareness for libertarian philosophy because the nomination was unwinnable. Let's stick to the greatest hits with Rand and skip over the "kookier" B-Sides. He'd have to really stumble to lose this, but it were ever to happen, it wouldn't be over Obamacare and federal deficits.
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    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    He gave himself that name.

    It's a common troll trick. Goldwater--AuH2O--was a good libertarian and a popular poster who lost interest in the forum not long before GoldHydrgenTwenty--AuH20--showed up. So, in order to blend in and hopefully be mistaken for AuH2O, he named himself AuH20.
    The troll trick is your continued derailment with this and my old post which is a statement of fact based on polling-voting patterns. Try as you like but some of us are not going to oppose Trump on not going full Neocon on Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Trump must be doing something right if all those snowflakes are melting.
    We all are getting tired of putin up with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    We all are getting tired of putin up with them.
    Typical of spring, now they should all melt and not be seen till next fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    He gave himself that name.

    It's a common troll trick. Goldwater--AuH2O--was a good libertarian and a popular poster who lost interest in the forum not long before GoldHydrgenTwenty--AuH20--showed up. So, in order to blend in and hopefully be mistaken for AuH2O, he named himself AuH20.

    Why is it a trick? I assume the second AuH guy used a capital letter "O" instead of a the number zero (0) because you can't duplicate a user name. So, it looks like this:


    AuH20--user name taken in 2007
    AuH2O--new user name not yet taken in 2009
    Gold water (Au + H20) is probably a popular internet user name in the element symbol form.
    Last edited by NorthCarolinaLiberty; 03-21-2018 at 09:29 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    We all are getting tired of putin up with them.



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