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    Exclamation Alaska Airlines pilot accused of drugging, raping, co-pilot

    The outrage squads across the internet are already spooling up over this one.

    Nobody knows if any of it is true, of course.

    Unless @Danke has been moonlighting at Alaska Air without us knowing about it...

    In any case, this man's life is now $#@!ed, regardless, all over chasing some tail.

    WRT to women in the workplace, especially in situations like this with overnight stays in various cities and hotels:

    No contact. No interaction. No communication other than required by the job at hand.


    Alaska Airlines pilot accused of rape grounded as shocking details emerge, outcry grows

    http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2018/0...cry-grows.html

    By Janine Puhak | Fox News

    Betty Pina has filed suit against Alaska Airlines in Washington State Superior Court. Paul Engelien (right) is named in Pina’s lawsuit, but not as a defendant.

    Alaska Airlines told Fox News that the male senior pilot accused of drugging and raping a female first officer on an overnight trip in June 2017 has been grounded, as new details emerge in Betty Pina’s lawsuit against the carrier and infuriated supporters call for a boycott of the airline.

    The pilot, identified in court documents and confirmed by the airline as Paul Engelien, “is not flying and was taken off the line immediately after learning of the incident,” company spokeswoman Ann Johnson told Fox News via email Thursday, adding, “It is our policy to withhold an employee from work during this type of investigation."

    While declining to comment on the investigation or lawsuit, Johnson said, "What we can say is that we are taking this matter seriously. The safety and well-being of our employees and guests is a top priority."

    To date, Pina still employed by and actively working for Alaska Airlines.

    Attorneys Eric Makus and Lincoln Beauregard, representing Pina in Washington State Superior Court, confirmed to Fox News on March 14 that the 39-year-old Seattle woman had first served a lawsuit against the airline on Feb. 15. As Alaska Airlines failed to answer within 20 days, the lawsuit was filed on March 14 in Seattle's King County Superior Court.

    According to the report cited in the lawsuit provided to Fox News, Pina, a distinguished Army helicopter pilot who flew combat missions in Afghanistan, alleges that she was assaulted by Paul Engelien, a 50-year-old captain, during a three-day assignment from Anchorage to Seattle to Minneapolis. It was the first time that Pina, who has been employed by the airline since 2016, met the married Nevada resident, who is a veteran with the airline, the suit states.

    Engelien is named in Pina’s lawsuit, but not as a defendant.

    According to testimony in the lawsuit, upon their initial meeting on June 4, Pina and Engelien "got along really well" through “a lot of military speak," which made Pina "more comfortable.” Engelien soon invited Pina on a hike and asked if she’d speak to the daughter of a family friend who was learning to fly. On June 5, the suit alleges Engelien told Pina that the Minneapolis hotel where the flight crew would be staying had a concierge room where "the crews hang out,” offering wine and pizza for $11.

    When Pina arrived, she had her "first glass of wine without any problem,” and Engelien then "brought her a second glass of wine” to which Pina began "having a hard time keeping her head up and things appeared to be closing in." According to the report, Pina typically feels tipsy after three or four glasses of wine, not two.

    Pina is “infuriated” that her alleged assailant continued to be employed by Alaska Airlines in the wake of her complaint.

    Engelien allegedly again took Pina's glass for a refill, and "the next thing she remembers is waking up and being pulled on her right ankle.” She then recalls that she said “No” before rolling over on her side, realizing she was in Engelien’s bedroom, and that she was naked from the waist down. She was soon “freaked out” to find her underwear zipped up inside her purse, as it hit her that she and Engelien had "been in the same bed” which had vomit on the sheets as "the other bed [did] not look like anyone had laid on it."

    "We're f---ed. We're f---ed, I missed a call from the FODO at 10:47 p.m." she claims she heard Engelien say. The captain received a message stating that a flight attendant had spotted him walking down the hotel hall "with a girl and two glasses of wine" and didn't feel comfortable flying with him.

    According to the report, Pina went to her room and realized that "the sickness was not a hangover.” After immediately vomiting upon taking her birth control pill the next morning, she felt “foggy” as “her stomach hurt the worst.”

    “When Ms. Pina challenged Mr. Engelien as to what had occurred, he denied any sexual contact, saying, "You were coming on to me pretty hard," the complaint alleges. Pina was then taken off "active flight crew,” and only recently returned to full duty. Her attorney Makus told ABC News that she did not file a police report on the assault in Minneapolis but did notify the Air Line Pilots Association on June 7, two days after it allegedly took place.

    "To the best of Ms. Pina’s knowledge," Engelien is still employed with Alaska Airlines and "remains a threat to other employees," the report states. Further, the lawsuit charges that not only do Engelien's actions as the supervising officer on the flight "constitute violations of Washington Laws Against Discrimination, sexual assault and negligence" but also that Alaska Airlines is liable for his actions.

    For her part, Pina is “infuriated” that Engelien continued to be employed by Alaska Airlines in the wake of her complaint.

    “I’m worried about everything I’ve ever worked for,” Pina told the Seattle Times of her fears of the incident jeopardizing her 17-year career in aviation. “I’m not married, I don’t have kids. My career has been my No. 1.”

    @AlaskaAir Unless you publicly deal with your Pilot/Rapist Paul Engelien, I, my family, and all of our co-workers will stop using @AlaskaAir. Support Betty Pina!
    — Daniel Hart (@chaoops123) March 14, 2018

    Do the right thing @AlaskaAir...failing to defend and support Betty Pina gives the impression you encourage sexual assault & cover ups. Remove the accused "predator pilot" & fix this problem immediately https://t.co/ruPdfEPCgo
    — SisterResister2 (@SisterResister2) March 14, 2018

    You are courageous, Betty Pina. https://t.co/1ccSm2O5kE
    — 🔸susıə🔸 (@_LilyOaks_) March 15, 2018

    Meanwhile, support for the “courageous” Pina has been growing on social media.

    “Unless you publicly deal with your Pilot/Rapist Paul Engelien, I, my family, and all of our co-workers will stop using @AlaskaAir. Support Betty Pina!” one user wrote.

    “Remove the accused "predator pilot" & fix this problem immediately” another chastised the airline.

    “My hope is that by me doing this, it may protect other women,” Pina said. “How many other victims are out there? I may not be the first case, but I hope to be the last. It’s time to take responsibility. The culture needs to change. We can’t sweep this under the rug any longer.”

    The Air Line Pilots Association did not immediately return Fox News’ request for comment.

    Calls and emails to Engelien were not returned
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    She should have gotten a blood test/rape kit and notified the higher-ups immediately.. If she was drugged then she was in no condition to fly..
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    Lawsuit ghost written by feminazis?

    It's going to cost this guy lots of money in lawyers to try and save his career from this woman's story. Apparently there's no evidence of any kind, just her story.

    Maybe the guy was drugged & date rapped, who knows?
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