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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    How did Cuba and Valenzuela not make the list?

    In any case it doesn't matter, I was speaking of a comparison between most Hispanic countries and the Boers not of the most socialist nations from 2012.
    This one has 19 countries listed that include a couple of Hispanic countries.

    https://www.thetoptens.com/socialist-countries/

    And, in my own personal experience I have found Latinos to be the hardest workers I have ever know, plus very family oriented and Christian.

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    South Africa demanded on Thursday that Australian Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton retract comments that suggested white farmers were being persecuted and deserved protection with special visas from a "civilised country".Pretoria hauled in Canberra's High Commissioner for a diplomatic ticking off over Dutton's remarks, which also included a description of white farmers facing "horrific circumstances" - a characterisation South Africa has rejected.
    "The South African government is offended by the statements which have been attributed to the Australian Home Affairs Minister and a full retraction is expected," the foreign ministry said in a statement.
    Australian Foreign Minister Julie Bishop on Friday sidestepped a direct question about whether Australia would retract the statements, saying the High Commissioner has regular discussions with the South African government "on a range of issues and concerns" and citing the country's high murder rates.

    More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/south-afr...174908479.html


    Petitions:

    https://www.change.org/p/donald-j-tr...n-south-africa

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...ons-and-murder
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  4. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    South Africa demanded on Thursday that Australian Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton retract comments that suggested white farmers were being persecuted and deserved protection with special visas from a "civilised country".Pretoria hauled in Canberra's High Commissioner for a diplomatic ticking off over Dutton's remarks, which also included a description of white farmers facing "horrific circumstances" - a characterisation South Africa has rejected.
    "The South African government is offended by the statements which have been attributed to the Australian Home Affairs Minister and a full retraction is expected," the foreign ministry said in a statement.
    Australian Foreign Minister Julie Bishop on Friday sidestepped a direct question about whether Australia would retract the statements, saying the High Commissioner has regular discussions with the South African government "on a range of issues and concerns" and citing the country's high murder rates.

    More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/south-afr...174908479.html


    Petitions:

    https://www.change.org/p/donald-j-tr...n-south-africa

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...ons-and-murder
    Hahhah, well that's the end of that.

    Tough luck Boers.

    Lesson learned: Interact with your own kind only.

    Hahhah, can't do that either.

  5. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    It's weird that VDare is pushing this. They're supposed to be anti-immigration, and for keeping America American.

    What is it about bringing these white South Africans to the US that fits with that mission?
    Gee, it's a mystery. Maybe their goals aren't quite what they proclaim them to be...
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  6. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Gee, it's a mystery. Maybe their goals aren't quite what they proclaim them to be...
    Maybe they would just rather have the Boers replace the other "refugees" that are even less culturally compatible if we can't get rid of the refugee program entirely.
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  7. #126
    IF WHITE farmers want to flee for a “racist country” like Australia they should leave the keys to their houses and tractors behind, the head of South Africa’s radical Marxist opposition party says.
    But Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) leader Julius Malema, who recently declared his party was “cutting the throat of whiteness”, denied white farmers were being killed. “We don’t know violence, we know negotiations,” Malema told a packed Human Rights Day rally in Mpumalanga Stadium on Wednesday.
    “And we are very robust in our engagement sometimes. A racist country like Australia says: ‘The white farmers are being killed in South Africa.’ We are not killing them. Now Australia says: ‘Malema, EFF want to kill white farmers, they must come to Australia.’
    “If they want to go, they must go. They must leave the keys to their tractors because we want to work the land, they must leave the keys to their houses because we want to stay in those houses. They must leave everything they did not come here with in South Africa and go to Australia.”
    His comments came as Australian Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton stared down criticism from “crazy lefties” as he pushed on with plans to bring white South African farmers to Australia.
    “They don’t realise how completely dead they are to me,” Mr Dutton told Sydney radio station 2GB on Thursday.

    More at: http://www.news.com.au/finance/econo...2731aa30e2a956
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  8. #127
    One White Farmer Killed in South Africa Every Five Days

    http://www.independentsentinel.com/one-white-farmer-killed-in-south-africa-every-five-days/
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  9. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Fear has South African farmers fleeing from land grab terror

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ec1cba1aa80e22

    The Australian12:00AM March 16, 2018

    South African farmer Gert du Plessis grew up on, farmed and inherited a 2000ha spread in Eastern Transvaal, and like most Afrikaners, he felt bound to the land and the black workers he employed to help him grow corn and raise cattle.

    “I had been there all my life, I was on that farm for 50 years,” Mr du Plessis told The Australian yesterday.

    What happened to fellow farmer and friend Thys Boshoff gave him second thoughts.

    “The people just got into the place and got some money, and when he didn’t open the safe, they just shot him dead,” Mr du Plessis said. “Then they ordered his wife to open the safe, but she didn’t have a key, so they shot her hand off and left.”

    Mr du Plessis and his family moved to Australia three years ago to avoid the fate of the Boshoffs — getting out ahead of the terror now being exacted on white farmers at an alarming rate. One or two are reportedly being murdered every week.

    Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton said this week the *growing violence against white farmers, whom he described as persecuted, had impelled him to ask his department to see if it could come up with ways to receive more of them as migrants to Australia, including under the humanitarian “in-country persecution” visa category.

    The South African government yesterday issued a reply denying it was persecuting anyone, and expressed “regret” that Australia had not raised the matter through diplomatic channels. “There is no reason for any government in the world to suspect that a section of South Africans is under danger from their own democratically elected government,” the foreign ministry said.

    Mr du Plessis said the South African government was “politically correct in saying they don’t persecute the farmers in South Africa,” but that was just through a sleight of hand. “When there is a farm attacked, they don’t see it as a farm attack, they put it down as a robbery, and say ‘unfortunately there were people killed in the robbery’,” he said.

    The problem, Mr du Plessis said, was that while the government did not approve of illegal takeovers of white land because it would produce anarchy, its policy of forcibly appropriating such land without compensation encouraged it.

    “It is not safe for a white South African to farm in South Africa,” Mr du Plessis said.

    In his case, a group of black men who worked for him camped outside on the lawn one morning. “They said they want the property,” Mr du Plessis said.

    “I just told them the property is mine, and they must leave. So I called the police. They came only to protect them from me.”

    He and his family felt persecuted, and decided to get out. In 2015 they moved to a farm they have leased near Uki in northeast NSW, where they run cattle. They came on a business visa *because they had the money and experience to start an enterprise, but since then, their fate in *obtaining permanent residency has varied among them.

    Mr du Plessis’s two elder daughters, Cindie, who works as a teacher, and Karien, who is an *environmental officer, have become permanent residents on the basis they are skilled migrants.

    Mr du Plessis, his wife Martie, and their youngest daughter *Anette have applied for permanent residence, but are still waiting for it to be granted. Their business visas have expired and they now are on bridging visas.

    It’s a problem identified by South African-born immigration agent Letitia De Lima who runs the practice Visas-R-Us on the Gold Coast. While Afrikaners are highly skilled farmers, they may have more handed-down practical knowledge than formal education, and those are not skills that count much for Australian immigration purposes.

    Ms De Lima said it was also hard for them to qualify as refugees from persecution, because they had to prove there was no authority to protect them. The South African police say they do, even though they don’t, in large part due to lack of resources.

    The Australian spoke with several Afrikaners who had migrated to Australia and had lost family on farms, and some still in South Africa. They welcomed Mr Dutton’s initiative. It was heartening to see “Australia reaching out to our farmers,” said Sonja van *Niekerk from her dairy farm in Northwest Province.

    Ms van Niekerk is the principal of a school with 800 black children, and said “we have very good relations” with the community. “We are peaceful people, we don’t carry guns,” she said,

    But that didn’t stop a group of blacks a bit over a year ago from attacking her husband Johan with knives, leaving him among other serious injuries with damaged vocal chords so he has difficulty speaking.

    “It is a miracle that he is still alive,” Ms van Niekerk said.

    Asked what had happened in the way of arrest or prosecution of the suspects, Ms van Niekerk said: “Nothing.”

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  11. #129
    Johannesburg (AFP) - The Pretoria government hailed Monday what it said was a decision by Australia to go back on plans to offer fast-track humanitarian visas to "persecuted" white farmers in South Africa.
    Australian Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton triggered outrage last month when he said the farmers deserved special attention for acceptance in his country on refugee or humanitarian grounds.
    Dutton, who has drawn international criticism for heading a tough crackdown on asylum-seekers from Asia and the Middle East, said the plan would enable the farmers to flee their "horrific circumstances" for a "civilised country".
    His offer was in response to a pledge by the South African government to enact land expropriations without compensation to redress land confiscations of the colonial and apartheid era.
    Pretoria subsequently summoned Australia's envoy to South Africa.
    "We have received a letter from the (Australian ministry of) foreign affairs that indicated that what was said by the minister of home affairs is not the position of the government of Australia," foreign ministry spokesman Ndivhuwo Mabaya told AFP on Monday.
    "We also had a meeting with the high commissioner [ambassador] who conveyed a message from the prime minister, who said the same thing, to indicate that this is not the view of their government."
    South African Foreign Minister Lindiwe Sisulu said Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and Foreign Minister Julie Bishop had made a "retraction" of Dutton's comments, and she welcomed it.

    More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/africa-ha...150521709.html
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  12. #130
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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  13. #131
    More than 200 farmers from South Africa have applied for humanitarian visas in Australia after allegedly suffering attacks for being white, according to the Australian Home Affairs Ministry.
    “The type of criteria they of course have to meet – or the key one – is evidence of persecution, so that’s exactly what we will be looking at,” Home Affairs Deputy Secretary Malisa Golightly said. Home Affairs said 89 refugee visa applications relating to 213 people had been received, although they did not specify their ethnicity or any other details.

    More at: https://www.infowars.com/white-south...-in-australia/
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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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  14. #132
    The Australian government should reject refugees from violent, unfree $#@!hole countries lest they import that violence and lack of freedom to Australia.
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  15. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    The Australian government should reject refugees from violent, unfree $#@!hole countries lest they import that violence and lack of freedom to Australia.
    The Boers are a different culture than those who are destroying S. Africa.
    Australia would however be within its rights to decide either way about granting asylum but since they are currently letting in hordes of barbarians it would begin to look like anti-white racism if they didn't let in the Boers while letting in the others.
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  16. #134
    Earlier this week while most of the world was transfixed on the World Cup, the Trump/Kim handshake, or a multitude of other sundry events, Julius Malema, aka the Hitler of South Africa, was busy telling white people in his country that he’s not going wage genocide against them. Yet.

    In an interview with TRT World News published this week, Malema said, “We have not called for the killing of white people. At least for now. I can’t guarantee the future.”
    When the reporter mentioned that some people might view these remarks as a call to genocide, Malema responded, “Crybabies. Crybabies,” but later warned white South Africans that “the masses are on board” for “an un-led revolution and anarchy”.
    Malema is a prominent politician in South Africa and at the forefront of his country’s movement to confiscate land from white property owners and redistribute it to the country’s black population.
    No actual specifics about the plan have been revealed, of course.

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...t-kill-themyet
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  17. #135
    I heard that 80 percent of South African blacks are from families that moved TO South Africa, WHILE it was an Apartheid regime....

    Why did a little clique of conspirators change both Canadian and US immigration laws in the 60s and 70s from ones that preserved the majority white demographic to ones that eliminate it? Why did the floodgates open to Europe with millions of africans and arabs entering illegally, with no consequences to either them or the people who organized the mass migration?

    Can we forever keep ignoring that there is a racist war against whites and white nations underway, and the weapons in play are the media, the schools, and the state?

    If you are being targeted as a race, is it 'racist' to engage in defensive measures? If you are at war and the enemy is using coercion against you, maybe you need to sieze the institutions, and use coercion in self defense.
    >_<

  18. #136
    South Africa’s ruling party has decided to push for the right to seize land without compensation for redistribution to black citizens because it feels that the time has come for the 24-year old democracy to tackle an issue that divides the nation once infamous for a legislated system of racial segregation, a leading politician said.
    An earlier attempt to take land without paying for it could have jeopardized investor confidence in the economy in the sensitive years after the end of white rule while waiting further could stoke anger in a country where more than a quarter are unemployed and inequality rates are among the highest in the world, said Zweli Mkhize, the minister of cooperative governance and traditional affairs.


    “If we don’t raise it now, we’ll never have time to,” said Mkhize, who is also a member of the African National Congress’s top decision-making executive committee. Land ownership, health and education are some basic things that people require and “if you don’t provide that, it doesn’t matter who you are, you get out of power.”
    The ANC, which has led the country since Nelson Mandela became its first black president in 1994, decided at a December conference to pursue expropriation without compensation to speed up giving black people more land. In February, lawmakers started the process to change the constitution to allow for that and public hearings on the matter kicked off last week and will conclude early next month

    More at: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...rica-land-push
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  20. #137
    A delegation of 30 South African farming families has arrived in Russia’s farmbelt Stavropol region, Rossiya 1 TV channel reports. The group says it is facing violent attacks and death threats at home.
    Up to 15,000 Boers, descendants of Dutch settlers in South Africa, are planning to move to Russia amid rising violence stemming from government plans to expropriate their land, according to the delegation.


    The farmers are ready to make a contribution to Russia’s booming agricultural sector, according to Rossiya 1. Each family is ready to bring up to $100,000 for leasing the land.
    Russia has 43 million hectares of unused farmland. The country has recently begun giving out free land to Russian citizens to cultivate farming. The land giveaway program, which began in 2014, has been a huge success.

    More at: https://www.infowars.com/report-1500...uge-in-russia/
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  21. #138
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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