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    Petitions to substitute the Boers for other "refugees"

    South Africa’s white farmers have their collective heads on the block following the vote by the country’s parliament to expropriate their land without compensation. The plan’s main proponent, Julius Malema of the Economic Freedom Fighters party, says white farmers are “criminals” who must be driven off the land. Make no mistake, this is shorthand for extermination. Congress should immediately direct that U.S. refugee policy be reoriented to rescue these victims threatened by looming—indeed, developing—genocide, as it did with the notorious Lautenberg Amendment, which captured the U.S. refugee intake to favor Soviet Jews. But President Trump doesn’t have to wait—there is precedent for immediate Executive Action.

    Even the Leftist Newsweek Magazine takes a dim view of the future for white farmers in a country once touted as a burgeoning “rainbow” paradise where “one man, one vote” and Marxist central planning would lead to prosperity for all South Africans—blacks, whites, coloreds and Asians. [Thousands Sign Petition Asking Trump to Let White Farmers in South Africa Migrate to U.S. After Country Votes to Force Them Off Land, by Chantal Da Silver, Newsweek, March 1, 2018] Newsweek’s story noted a Change.org online petition of more than 18,000 signatures asking Trump to accept white South African Christians in place of Somali Muslims and Middle Easterners who are difficult to vet and prone to non-assimilation. There’s also a White House petition: Immigration Priority to South African Farmers facing Systematic Land Confiscations and Murder February 28, 2018. But Trump already holds all the executive power he needs, and the legal cover, to pull off a sweeping rescue mission of South African refugees. A provision in the 1980 Refugee Act specifically allows for emergency extraction of vulnerable populations subject only to a Congressional hearing (not legislation):
    (B) After the President initiates appropriate consultation prior to making a determination, under subsection (b), that the number of refugee admissions should be increased because of an unforeseen emergency refugee situation, to the extent that time and the nature of the emergency refugee situation permit, a hearing to review the proposal to increase refugee admissions shall be held unless public disclosure of the details of the proposal would jeopardize the lives or safety of individuals.
    Of course, ideally Trump would also get Congress on board with a plan for an emergency increase in refugees from South Africa. He could lean on Australia, New Zealand and the U.K. to pitch in and accept these threatened farmers.
    It’s been done before. In 1990 the U.S. Congress adopted legislation creating the Lautenberg program, named after U.S. Sen. Frank Lautenberg, to resettle Soviet Jews in the United States.
    The Lautenberg program was then expanded in 2003 to pave the way for persecuted Iranian Christians to be resettled in the U.S.
    All that is needed is for the president to step up and lead.

    More at: http://www.vdare.com/articles/congre...ive-action-now

    Petitions:

    https://www.change.org/p/donald-j-tr...n-south-africa

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...ons-and-murder
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Probably for the best.
    What?

    That they get exterminated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    What?

    That they get exterminated?
    That is what The Vampire is saying.
    I think he doesn't really mean it but having erroneously identified me as a white supremacist he thinks it is funny to throw a reversal of the "genetic predisposition towards liberty" theory (which I don't believe) in my face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Probably for the best. The Boers don't seem genetically disposed towards liberty.
    ya, we hate property rights here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    What?

    That they get exterminated?
    Ask him about Israelis, his tune will change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    What?

    That they get exterminated?
    Could happen, yeah. It's unfortunate, but we've got to -

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Shut it all down.
    Country's full, and broke.
    And so -
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    The rest of the world's "wretched refuse" can piss off back to wherever they came from and fix their own damn problems.

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    Hopefully they can find a way to stay. If they have to leave, Holland seems like it should be the first choice, maybe the UK. That being said, there was a lot of migration to the US from SA back in the 90s.

    While not a fan of putting people in the front of the immigration line because "it's for the (refugee) children!", if one does subscribe to refugee priority, this would be a case that would probably qualify.
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    Id rather they declare their independence from SA, form their own country rendering the expropriation invalid. Then get Trump to officially recognize their new country and sell them any munitions they want to defend themselves.

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    Wouldn't mind seeing these guys get a dose of the jolly prankster, or any other people threatening peoples life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness

    Canada's denial and claim of fake news is grotesque

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Could happen, yeah. It's unfortunate, but we've got to -
    Oh, I see, a clever and sarcastic play on my past comments.

    Guess what, I stand by them.

    Let the Boers fight and regain what was their's, or repatriate back to the Netherlands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Id rather they declare their independence from SA, form their own country rendering the expropriation invalid. Then get Trump to officially recognize their new country and sell them any munitions they want to defend themselves.
    And this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Id rather they declare their independence from SA, form their own country rendering the expropriation invalid. Then get Trump to officially recognize their new country and sell them any munitions they want to defend themselves.
    Coincidently, the Boers used to equate themselves with the Israelites...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Yeah, because when it comes to refugees we -
    If we were going to get a moratorium I would support it, but since they are going to let in a certain number of "refugees" then it might as well be the Boers who are closer to our culture and are actually in danger of being genocided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Id rather they declare their independence from SA, form their own country rendering the expropriation invalid. Then get Trump to officially recognize their new country and sell them any munitions they want to defend themselves.
    That would be better, I have said before that they should have divided SA, but I don't see it happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Hopefully they can find a way to stay. If they have to leave, Holland seems like it should be the first choice, maybe the UK. That being said, there was a lot of migration to the US from SA back in the 90s.

    While not a fan of putting people in the front of the immigration line because "it's for the (refugee) children!", if one does subscribe to refugee priority, this would be a case that would probably qualify.
    Better them than other "refugees"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Better them than other "refugees"
    same way that norwegian immigrants are preferable to $#@!hole country immigrants, amirite? They may be more socialist than 99% of our country, but at least their melanin counts are within the acceptable spectrum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    same way that norwegian immigrants are preferable to $#@!hole country immigrants, amirite? They may be more socialist than 99% of our country, but at least their melanin counts are within the acceptable spectrum
    I would rather not take any new immigrants but the Boers are closer to our culture than those they would replace. (it has NOTHING to do with their skin color, I would say the same thing if they were black and the communists in SA were white as long as they were closer to our culture than the "refugees" they would replace)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I would rather not take any new immigrants but the Boers are closer to our culture than those they would replace. (it has NOTHING to do with their skin color, I would say the same thing if they were black and the communists in SA were white as long as they were closer to our culture than the "refugees" they would replace)
    You would rather not take any new immigrants? Then don't open your house up to them. Most of the country disagrees with you. What's with this "our culture" bull$#@!? Why are you so collectivist? You can just admit that ur racist like ur dad drumpf btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    You would rather not take any new immigrants? Then don't open your house up to them. Most of the country disagrees with you. What's with this "our culture" bull$#@!? Why are you so collectivist? You can just admit that ur racist like ur dad drumpf btw
    "Our culture" refers to things like free speech, separation of church and state, relatively free markets, modern farming and business practices, monogamy, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    "Our culture" refers to things like free speech, separation of church and state, relatively free markets, modern farming and business practices, monogamy, etc.
    He knows that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    "Our culture" refers to things like free speech, separation of church and state, relatively free markets, modern farming and business practices, monogamy, etc.
    You say that, but Mr. Swordsmyth hates secularism, which is enshrined in the first amendment. Perhaps "our culture" isn't as uniform as you might think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I would rather not take any new immigrants but the Boers are closer to our culture than those they would replace. (it has NOTHING to do with their skin color, I would say the same thing if they were black and the communists in SA were white as long as they were closer to our culture than the "refugees" they would replace)
    Am sure it has been pointed out, most of the peoples that are being targeted by elitist agendas are peoples that are strongly independent and liberty minded, since they are a direct threat to their system
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    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    You say that, but Mr. Swordsmyth hates secularism, which is enshrined in the first amendment. Perhaps "our culture" isn't as uniform as you might think
    "Separation of church and state" =/= secularism.
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    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    "Separation of church and state" =/= secularism.
    sec·u·lar·ism
    ˈsekyələˌrizəm/
    noun
    [COLOR=#878787 !important]noun: secularism[/COLOR]

    • the principle of separation of the state from religious institutions.



      you might need to give your definition then






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    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    You say that, but Mr. Swordsmyth hates secularism, which is enshrined in the first amendment. Perhaps "our culture" isn't as uniform as you might think
    The problem with secularists in general is that most tend to be leftists - when people threw out God, they had to replace him with something and most people chose to replace God with the state and worship the state.

    It used to be that Christian religious groups fought over government power in Europe, until Europe decided to separate church and state. Now racial groups, minorities and special interest groups fight over government power. This is called identity politics.

    What we need to do is like what we did with separating church and state by getting rid of identity politics which we can do by ensuring that everyone is treated equally under the law. That will NOT result in equal outcomes between genders and races, but they will have to live with that and understand that the resulting disparity in income that occurs in a free market is not because certain groups are stealing from other groups or because capitalists are oppressive.. it is because of differences in IQ, culture, work ethic, etc. But that requires a conversation that the world doesn't seem to be ready or willing to have at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The problem with secularists in general is that most tend to be leftists - when people threw out God, they had to replace him with something and most people chose to replace God with the state and worship the state.

    It used to be that Christian religious groups fought over government power in Europe, until Europe decided to separate church and state. Now racial groups, minorities and special interest groups fight over government power. This is called identity politics.

    What we need to do is separate church and state as well as get rid of identity politics by ensuring that everyone is treated equally under the law. That will NOT result in equal outcomes between genders and races, but they will have to live with that and understand that the resulting disparity in come that occurs in a free market is not because certain groups are stealing from other groups or because capitalists are oppressive.. it is because of differences in IQ, culture, work ethic, etc. But that requires a conversation that the world doesn't seem to be ready or willing to have at the moment.
    And most non secularists who amble their way into Parliament expect everyone else to worship the state as well in addition to their own God. Except outside of the US its arguably worse. Time for them to get some hobbies instead of creating more mischief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    sec·u·lar·ism
    ˈsekyələˌrizəm/
    noun
    [COLOR=#878787 !important]noun: secularism[/COLOR]

    • the principle of separation of the state from religious institutions.



      you might need to give your definition then


    Secularism is hostility to religion, throwing the ten commandments (the cultural foundation of our legal system) out of court houses and tearing down war memorials with crosses was never part of our culture or what the founders intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    sec·u·lar·ism
    ˈsekyələˌrizəm/
    noun
    [COLOR=#878787 !important]noun: secularism[/COLOR]

    • the principle of separation of the state from religious institutions.



      you might need to give your definition then


    That's interesting, I had no idea that was the definition of secular. I thought it meant non-religious.

    Colloquially I think people generally view a secular society as one that is largley non-religious, as opposed to a religious society that simply resides in a country that allows freedom of religion.
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