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    New Jersey Prepares To Raise Taxes On "Almost Everything"

    New Jersey's fiscal situation is so dire that new Governor Phil Murphy has proposed taxing online-room booking, ride-sharing, marijuana, e-cigarettes and Internet transactions along with raising taxes on millionaires and retail sales to fund a record $37.4 billion budget that would boost spending on schools, pensions and mass transit. The proposal which is 4.2% higher than the current fiscal year’s, relies on a tax for the wealthiest that is so unpopular it not only has yet to be approved, but also lacks support from key Democrats in the legislature, let alone Republicans. It also reverses pledges from Murphy’s predecessor, Republican Chris Christie, to lower taxes in a state where living costs are already among the nation’s highest.

    Murphy, a Democrat who replaced term-limited Christie on Jan. 16, said his goal is to give New Jerseyans more value for their tax dollars; instead he plans on bleeding them dry. He has promised additional spending on underfunded schools and transportation in a credit-battered state with an estimated $8.7 billion structural deficit for the fiscal year that starts July 1.
    “If we enact another budget like the one our administration inherited, our middle class will continue to be the ones shouldering the burden, while seeing little in return,” Murphy said Tuesday in his budget address to lawmakers. His solution? Socialist wealth redistribution: "A millionaire’s tax is the right thing to do –- and now is the time to do it."
    A better way of putting it, as Bloomberg has done, is that New Jersey's budget "would raise taxes on almost everything."

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...ncial-disaster
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    And we are not any closer to having legal weed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Root View Post
    And we are not any closer to having legal weed
    Why in the Sam Hell are you still there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Why in the Sam Hell are you still there?
    It's complicated...

    I will be moving to PA... just not sure when.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Why in the Sam Hell are you still there?
    I have finally convinced DW and MIL to get the hell out, we are house hunting in earnest. NJexit..

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    If my taxes go up by any substantial measure, I'm out. Can't do it anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Root View Post
    It's complicated...

    I will be moving to PA... just not sure when.
    There is room in NH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    I have finally convinced DW and MIL to get the hell out, we are house hunting in earnest. NJexit..
    Thank Christ.

    If you can talk DW into NH, let me know, I'll be more than happy to pass on everything I know about the state, jobs, taxes, locations, etc.

    Been here over 18 years now, Mrs AF and my boy bitch about winter, but I still enjoy it.



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    That offer goes to any other "liberty folk" as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Thank Christ.
    If you can talk DW into NH, let me know, I'll be more than happy to pass on everything I know about the state, jobs, taxes, locations, etc.
    Been here over 18 years now, Mrs AF and my boy bitch about winter, but I still enjoy it.
    yeah, I got shutdown even suggesting NH. I had leaned towards NC as my business partner is in the process of moving there; but I think DW and MIL have decided on SC, outside myrtle beach area. I'm not gonna fight about it, its much more affordable and free than NJ and i'll just be happy to get the hell out. Some rough estimates show that we'll save well over 10k a year in taxes alone with the move and that's at the current tax rate, let alone raised even higher!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    There is room in NH.
    Thanks brother. I'd love it there, but I'm not sure my wife can handle more than 30" of snow a year.

    PA will be my next stop. It's a huge improvement from the police state from NJ. I feel safer every time I go into PA that some roided up NJ kop isn't gonna teach me that I did this to myself. The 2A situation is light years better as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    yeah, I got shutdown even suggesting NH. I had leaned towards NC as my business partner is in the process of moving there; but I think DW and MIL have decided on SC, outside myrtle beach area. I'm not gonna fight about it, its much more affordable and free than NJ and i'll just be happy to get the hell out. Some rough estimates show that we'll save well over 10k a year in taxes alone with the move and that's at the current tax rate, let alone raised even higher!
    Quote Originally Posted by Root View Post
    Thanks brother. I'd love it there, but I'm not sure my wife can handle more than 30" of snow a year.

    PA will be my next stop. It's a huge improvement from the police state from NJ. I feel safer every time I go into PA that some roided up NJ kop isn't gonna teach me that I did this to myself. The 2A situation is light years better as well.
    Yeah, looking out my office window at about 26 inches of snow that fell over the 24 hours.

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    Now they are saying there's a possibility of another Nor'easter next Tuesday! *SIGH*


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yeah, looking out my office window at about 26 inches of snow that fell over the 24 hours.
    I LOVE snow. I'd probably do a lot more cross-country skiing if I lived up there.

    The more snow the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Root View Post
    I LOVE snow. I'd probably do a lot more cross-country skiing if I lived up there.

    The more snow the better.
    Those woods in the picture extend back through my land, into 40 acres of conservation land and then bordered by a rail/trail that you can in turn snowmobile/x-Country ski all the way up into Canada if you wanted to.

    That picture is potato, due to the stupid phone focusing on the screen instead of the scene



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    Proposed NJ budget includes $2 million for gun research, tax on gun sales

    3/14/18 | by Chris Eger

    New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy’s first budget would see a big hike in taxes to pay for social programs and developments — some funded by gun owners.

    In announcing his budget this week to lawmakers, the newly installed Democrat pledged to be a different type of governor before he worked in details of $1.6 billion in new taxes to jump start everything from tuition-free community colleges to mass transit improvements. Murphy, who ran on a platform that included promising to sign every gun control bill that Republican Chris Christie ever vetoed, also worked gun politics into his address.

    “The day before Parkland, I attended a roundtable on gun violence in Cherry Hill with Majority Leader (Lou) Greenwald,” said Murphy, in reference to an event that included only gun control advocates and none from Second Amendment groups. “Lou, I look forward to working with you, and with everyone in this chamber, to pass and enact long-overdue gun safety bills – including “red flag” legislation, reducing magazine ammunition capacity, and requiring background checks for private gun sales.”

    Included in Murphy’s proposed budget is a $2 million outlay that will establish the Center on Gun Violence Research “to provide deeply needed research on this public health problem.” The concept, putting gun accidents, crime and suicides under a tax payer-funded microscope as a health care crisis, has been advanced in the legislature several times with gun rights groups painting such a move as an “attempt to create an anti-gun think tank cloaked in the legitimacy of academia.

    The Giffords organization welcomed the news of the proposed research center funding. “The epidemic of gun violence is a major public health problem that continues to impact the lives of Garden State families and communities,” said Nico Bocour, the state’s legislative director for Giffords. “Governor Murphy recognizes that there is more that New Jersey can do to continue to be a leader in finding and funding life-saving solutions to gun violence.

    Also of interest to gun owners is a proposed tax on firearm sales, which Murphy’s budget forecasts to bring an additional $6.6 million to the state’s coffers. Upping the sales tax on guns was touted by Murphy on the campaign trail last summer as an answer to gun violence. In addition to the targeted tax on guns themselves, all New Jerseyans would see a jump in retail sales tax across the board, proposed to increase from the current 6.625 percent to 7 percent. The Democrat said it was a mistake to drop from that level in past years.

    “Let’s be honest, the impact of the three-eighths of one percent sales tax decrease has been nearly imperceptible to the average family, but has directly impacted our ability to provide better services to, and greater future investment in, that family,” Murphy said.
    http://www.guns.com/2018/03/14/propo...-on-gun-sales/
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    The epidemic of gun violence is a major public health problem
    There is no epidemic of gun violence.

    Murders have been decreasing overall since 1970.


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    If you buy a gun at Heritage Guild Firearms in Easton, PA they will transfer it to one of their two locations in NJ for no extra cost. Did that twice to beat NJ out of a little bit of my money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    I have finally convinced DW and MIL to get the hell out, we are house hunting in earnest. NJexit..
    NewJexit .



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