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    Exclamation Women drivers really ARE more dangerous than men!

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    Women drivers really ARE more dangerous than men! New figures show middle-aged mothers are a 'liability' behind the wheel

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ity-wheel.html

    Diamond found nearly half a million road accidents a year are caused by women drivers applying make-up behind the wheel
    Ten per cent of crashes involving women in 2015 happened on school runs, compared with just 1.1 per cent for men
    Comes as Laura Brayshaw was found guilty of causing death by careless driving after mowing down a cyclist in Dorset

    By ANGELA EPSTEIN FOR THE MAIL ON SUNDAY
    PUBLISHED: 17:37 EDT, 10 March 2018 | UPDATED: 20:27 EDT, 10 March 2018

    The cyclist seemed to appear out of nowhere. Well, they do sometimes, don’t they? Undercutting at junctions or flying through an amber-to-red light with entitlement and impunity. However, not only is this a broad generalisation, on this occasion it simply wasn’t true.

    The near miss – and I’m talking the nearest of misses – was entirely my fault. I simply hadn’t been concentrating. Sure, my hands were on the wheel and my eyes on the road. However, my mind was soaring and wheeling around like a kite in freefall. It had been a typical day of clock-watching and tail-chasing.

    But as a working mother-of-four, whenever I get in the car, it seems the competing pressures in my over-busy life coalesce to potentially devastating effect.

    There are the deadlines at work, the need to cram in a supermarket trolley dash before the school pick- up, and a fraught hands-free call from at least one member of my family adding something to my to-do list. That’s why I didn’t see the cyclist. Put frankly, I was so busy thinking, I simply wasn’t looking.

    Little wonder that in the past few years I’ve netted six points and been handed two speed-awareness courses. I’m far from alone.

    I make up part of a new demographic that has emerged to challenge the boy racers and elderly motorists habitually charged with being a danger on the roads: the stressed-out, middle-aged mum.

    A woman whose alpha-female and always-frantic existence morphs driving from a form of functioning transport into something potentially lethal.

    Last month Laura Brayshaw was found guilty of causing death by careless driving after mowing down a cyclist in Dorset.

    During the trial, the court heard how the mother-of-three had lost control of her car, turning around for a ‘split second’ to tell off her young daughters who were throwing popcorn in the back seat. Many women reading this may shudder in recognition.

    As one fellow middle-aged, time-poor mummy-motorist, Julia, told me: ‘I reversed into a tree in November while trying to divert a call and bark at the kids to put their seat belts on.

    ‘Then I scraped a car while worrying about my mother- in-law’s health and, again, barking at a child to put seat belt on. I even hit a large rock while stressing about being late for a meeting and dealing with the school run. I just can’t seem to focus when I drive.’

    Of course, the lazy, get-out-of-jail card would be to summon the laws of chauvinism, which routinely poke fun at female drivers.

    Yet the fact is, motor insurance company Diamond recently found that nearly half a million road accidents a year are caused by women drivers applying make-up behind the wheel. We are, along with everything else in life, often the family’s designated taxi driver: about ten per cent of crashes involving women in 2015 happened on school runs, compared with just 1.1 per cent for men. Solicitor Matthew Miller of motoringoffencelawyers.com says that in the past year alone he has experienced a 50 per cent rise in enquiries from women in their 40s and over who have been charged with driving without due care and attention.

    ‘A typical example is the woman who got in contact with me recently after she shunted into the back of another car at high speed on a busy road. She’d never been in trouble with the police before and was quite distraught. She explained that she was having difficulties with her marriage and had so much on her mind. She just wasn’t concentrating.’

    Scientists have already concluded that women drivers are more likely to be involved in an accident. After looking at 6.5 million car crashes, researchers from the University of Michigan found a higher-than-expected proportion of accidents between two female drivers. They also discovered that women had a tougher time negotiating crossroads, T-junctions and slip roads.

    Although the RAC ‘has not studied the problem’, a spokesman admitted: ‘It may be understandable that some women are under greater pressures than others, juggling a host of tasks and responsibilities. This appears to be reinforced by studies suggesting there is an emerging demographic of middle-aged women who are, perhaps for the first time, experiencing prosecutions and penalties for driving offences – which are attributable to distractions at the wheel.’

    The question is why? Renowned motoring lawyer Nick Freeman – nicknamed Mr Loophole by the press for his ability to win cases on legal technicalities – is often associated with celebrity clients. Yet he says he is also inundated with enquiries from women in their 40s and 50s who have been charged with a range of driving offences.

    Scientists have already concluded that women drivers are more likely to be involved in an accident

    ‘Often they tell me that they are just trying to do too much – work, run the home, look after children, and this impacts on their mental health and the amount they drink, causing their general lack of concentration on the road.

    ‘Many are also suffering with depression. Maybe their marriage is weighed down under the strain of it all. Alternatively, they feel under pressure to perform well in every sphere of their lives – be the perfect wife, perfect mother, and perfect executive. There is no intention to break the law – many have never been in trouble before. However, that level of pressure can have catastrophic consequences when they get behind the wheel.’

    (Welcome to our world ladies. You wanted in, well, now you got it. Enjoy your heart disease, suicide and strokes. - AF)

    Anxiety specialist Dr Sandi Mann, director of the Mind Training Clinic in Manchester, explains: ‘These women are juggling so many aspects of their lives. So when they do something which is largely automatic it is an opportunity for the mind to wander into problem-solving.

    ‘It’s not a problem if you’re, say, out walking but potentially lethal behind the wheel of a car.’

    For some women, battling with early symptoms of the menopause could also be contributing to the problem. ‘I see a lot of women at this life stage who are anxious and nervous about driving,’ says Dr Louise Newson, who runs a private menopause clinic at the Parkway Hospital in Solihull.

    ‘We do know that oestrogen and testosterone receptors are important for brain function so a reduction of hormones during the perimenopause and menopause will alter brain function.

    ‘It can affect concentration and change visual and spatial awareness, which is why women approaching and going through the menopause could suffer anxiety about driving.’

    At that age men tend to be experienced motorists so are more comfortable driving at excess speed and breaking the law

    Alcohol is another major factor.Research by Insurance Revolution found that of all driving convictions handed to women, more than a third are for drink-driving offences committed by the 45-to-60-year age group. Drink-driving men are more likely to be younger, Insurance Revolution claimed, with a third of those convicted aged between 25 and 34.

    The majority of driving convictions relating to middle-aged men relate to speeding, says Freeman. ‘At that age men tend to be experienced motorists so are more comfortable driving at excess speed and breaking the law.’

    Meanwhile, 64 per cent of all female convictions for serious motoring offences, which include driving while uninsured and causing death by dangerous driving, were for driving under the influence. Freeman warns: ‘Many women, like men, drink because it is their only way to cope.

    ‘It may sound surprising but there are many female clients who are professionals and to look at them, you’d never believe they were alcoholics. They give the impression they have their life in order. But sadly it is masking what’s really happening. They seem to be in a controlled state of despair.’

    No surprise that given this turmoil, the number and range of offences – and punishments – he adds, are huge, from speeding to causing death by dangerous driving, which can carry a prison sentence of up to 14 years.

    It is not surprising either that I still feel breathless when I think about what could have happened when I didn’t see that cyclist that typical, busy, overburdened day.

    But what’s the answer? Listening to relaxing music in the car to drown out those nagging thoughts? Refusing to take calls even though the phone is on hands-free?

    Or, long before we get into the car, looking at ways to deflect the stresses of our lives – perhaps by taking up yoga or getting our partners to help share the burden.

    Sadly there is no one solution. However, in keeping my eyes focused on the road, I’m hoping at least to make a start.
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    Would explain the spike in highway deaths here.

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    There are the deadlines at work, the need to cram in a supermarket trolley dash before the school pick- up, and a fraught hands-free call from at least one member of my family adding something to my to-do list. That’s why I didn’t see the cyclist. Put frankly, I was so busy thinking, I simply wasn’t looking.
    I have often wondered with amazement at bad drivers. They are like zombies when driving. They follow the car in front of them, always looking ahead, but it's like no one is home. Whatever is (or is not) going on in their head, it's a million miles away from their task at hand. Others have also noticed this and we joke that there could be an elephant standing on the side of the road with naked dwarves dancing on their back and these drivers would never notice.

    These drivers have a very hard time with merging. Whether someone is merging from an on-ramp into their lane, or they are merging onto a freeway, they seem to have no idea that they have to do anything other than drive in a straight line at their chosen speed. No anticipation at all. They do not even see a car merging until they are at a crisis point with two cars trying to occupy the same space. Then they scream "why is this %$#@! trying to run me off the road!", when the situation was obvious hundreds of yards beforehand.

    Needless to say, this is more often a female driver, but I have first hand experience with a male driver who drove like that, as well as with female drivers who drive like Indy racers (which necessitates true concentration on driving).
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    https://www.trafficsafetystore.com/b...ses-accidents/

    Per mile driven, the accident rate between men and women is about the same.

    Who Causes More Car Accidents? The Data May Surprise You

    Seniors vs. Teens
    Answer: Teens


    We expect mistakes from young drivers, but the first few years are pretty risky. According to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS), drivers ages 16-19 are three times more likely to crash than drivers over 20.

    These novice drivers cause significantly more car accidents than seniors: The United States Census Bureau calculates 12.2 percent of car accidents are the responsibility of teen drivers while 7.5 percent of accidents are caused by drivers over 65.

    That reality may be changing. All 50 states have adopted a Graduated Drivers Licensing GDL programs, helping to effectively reduce teen accidents.

    Meanwhile advocacy groups like Teen Driver Source and Distraction.gov are working to raise awareness about chronic risk factors including cell phone use, passenger distraction, impulsive/aggressive road behavior, impaired driving and lack of seatbelt use.

    Fewer young people are getting their driver’s licenses and when they do, they are driving fewer miles.

    The life expectancy for car-dependent seniors, however, is steadily increasing. Impairments associated with aging – including slow response time and compromised vision and hearing – could have a staggering effect on road safety.

    Men vs. Women
    Answer: Men


    Men get more DUIs, traffic violations and are deemed responsible for a greater portion of car accidents.

    But they also drive more miles than women—a lot more. Although a recent study indicates there are over one million more licensed female drivers than licensed male drivers, men drive about 40 percent more miles per year.

    Some subject experts hypothesize that men – particular men under 25 – get in more accidents because they’re more prone to aggressive behavior and risk taking.

    But let’s look at the numbers:

    Men cause 6.1 million accidents per year and women cause 4.4 million per year (National Highway Safety Administration)
    105.7 million women and 104.3 million men have drivers licenses (University of Michigan’s Transportation Research Institute)
    On average, men drive 16,550 miles and women drive 10,142 miles per year ( Federal Highway Administration)
    So men account for roughly 1.73^12 miles driven per year, while women drive a combined total of 1.07^12 miles per year.

    That means men drive about 30 percent more miles than women. Yet, they’re implicated in slightly less than 30 percent of car accidents. Men do cause more accidents, but they are actually less at-risk than women, by a small margin.

    Cyclist Vs. Drivers
    Answer: Cyclists


    Recent studies suggest that drivers and cyclists are equally responsible for causing bike accidents.

    That said, a cyclists is twice as likely as a motorist to get into an accident. Most of these accidents, however, have nothing to do with cars – only a third of bicycle accidents are car collisions. This also includes situations where bikers were in bike lanes, physically walled off areas, and semi-walled areas with safety cones or other traffic equipment.

    Other leading causes include falls, poor road conditions, and dog attacks according to the 2012 NHTSA survey of Bicyclist and Pedestrian Attitudes and Behaviors. Statistically speaking, drivers are at fault about 15 percent of the time.

    The overarching cause of bike accidents could have more to do with bike hostile roads.

    Poor surfacing, inadequate bike lanes, lack of signage and lack of education make it difficult for cyclists and drivers to share space. Thankfully, the growing protected bike lane movement combined with nascent awareness of bicycles as special vehicles is helping to change that.

    Lifestyle choices can indicate accident likelihood…

    States are increasingly considering policies that curb the insurance industry’s use of demographics in determining an individual’s rates. Nonetheless, auto insurance companies tend to charge:

    More for Stockbrokers than scientists – The logic being that people who pursue risk in their careers will also pursue it on the road.

    More for Urbanites than rural dwellers – Rural drivers are more likely to be involved in a road fatality due to high speed limits, poorer road conditions and increased rates of intoxicated driving. Yet, 80 percent of reported accidents take place in urban areas.

    Less for PHDs than GEDs – Up to $500 per year less. Insurance companies stagger rates based on the highest degree obtained. The biggest jump is between drivers who earned a high school diploma and those who did not.

    Less if you are married – Some studies actually demonstrate drivers are half as likely to get injured in a car accident if they have a spouse.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 03-11-2018 at 04:35 PM.

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    Video is actually worth while to watch because it gives context to what is going on in this idiots head. Well, lack thereof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Would explain the spike in highway deaths here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Others have also noticed this and we joke that there could be an elephant standing on the side of the road with naked dwarves dancing on their back and these drivers would never notice.
    Its no joke, they're all real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post

    Per mile driven, the accident rate between men and women is about the same.
    That's ONLY because of all the attentive male drivers who take evasive action...



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    I drive like a middle-aged man.

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    Is this supposed to be news? While I know some very good women drivers, most of the dangerously idiotic drivers I have encountered on the roads have been women. The ratio of women to men who have no business behind the wheel of a vehicle is at least 10:1. I know the frothy feminists of the world would see my noots hanging from their rear-view mirrors as they cell-phoned their ways down America's highways, but alas it remains the truth in my personal and oh-so-anectodal experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    I have often wondered with amazement at bad drivers. They are like zombies when driving. They follow the car in front of them, always looking ahead, but it's like no one is home. Whatever is (or is not) going on in their head, it's a million miles away from their task at hand. Others have also noticed this and we joke that there could be an elephant standing on the side of the road with naked dwarves dancing on their back and these drivers would never notice.

    These drivers have a very hard time with merging. Whether someone is merging from an on-ramp into their lane, or they are merging onto a freeway, they seem to have no idea that they have to do anything other than drive in a straight line at their chosen speed. No anticipation at all. They do not even see a car merging until they are at a crisis point with two cars trying to occupy the same space. Then they scream "why is this %$#@! trying to run me off the road!", when the situation was obvious hundreds of yards beforehand.

    Needless to say, this is more often a female driver, but I have first hand experience with a male driver who drove like that, as well as with female drivers who drive like Indy racers (which necessitates true concentration on driving).
    But they will notice an accident on the side of the road and bring traffic to a halt gawking at it.
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    excuse the reverse edit of this vid...


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    We will finally be able to get women off the roads driving when cars are automated.
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    Hell, they can't even drive on the right side of the road!

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    Hmm...just from my perspective I have been driving 41 years and had 4 tickets and 0 collisions.

    The women in my family are about the same and there were 4 of us.

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    Well of course they are.

    I didn't know this was in dispute.



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